TOPIC: Lengthening surgery, twice?

One would think that this could have been repeated by another patient since that report was made public. Can it be that this is an isolated case? Very strange that it has not been done since 2001!

Indeed thats what I thought mustang. I imagine they\'ve tried the same procedure on someone else or multiple patients, but I\'m not suprised if they\'re reluctant to publish the results of them, I predict they won\'t be no where near as impressive as this case.

Miro Djordevic showed me a photo of a penis that the surgeon cut the suspensory and fundiform ligs. It pointed downwards and couldn\'t be inserted for sex without the guy holding it. It also made positions such as girl on top impossible. The ligs are there for a reason. Only the superficial ligs can be released safely.

Yes, that is the case I was referring to. Thanks, KFH. Evidently, the patient was highly motivated. I wonder whether that prostectomy had anything to do with it in one way or another, maybe the prostate isse had the effect of shortening it but it went back to normal after the isssue was taken care of?

So suspensory ligaments aren\'t really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?

KFH wrote: So suspensory ligaments aren\'t really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?

Basically the ligs hold the penis in position. Without the support of ligaments the penis will just be loose and when erect will point downwards. The suspensory ligs are those at the front, so by releasing just them, the penis should still be pretty well supported. However this isn\'t always the case. I know of a couple of guys at Thundersplace who have had their suspensory ligaments cut, who now want them reattched as the penis feels loose at the base and makes penetration in certain positions difficult.

In this thread members of thunderplace discuss getting the ligs reattached:

www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98113&page=1&pp=15

hoddle10 wrote: Miro Djordevic showed me a photo of a penis that the surgeon cut the suspensory and fundiform ligs. It pointed downwards and couldn\'t be inserted for sex without the guy holding it. It also made positions such as girl on top impossible. The ligs are there for a reason. Only the superficial ligs can be released safely.

How much size did Miro Djordevic gain?

Djorjevic did not gain, he was the surgeon performing the operation or simply just showing what went on with a guy who had his ligs cut.

Mexmuscle is right, Miro was going to perform corrective surgery on the guy, so he could regain stability when Erect.

Thanks, you two for the clarification, I misread.

hoddle10 wrote:

KFH wrote: So suspensory ligaments aren\'t really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?

Basically the ligs hold the penis in position. Without the support of ligaments the penis will just be loose and when erect will point downwards. The suspensory ligs are those at the front, so by releasing just them, the penis should still be pretty well supported. However this isn\'t always the case. I know of a couple of guys at Thundersplace who have had their suspensory ligaments cut, who now want them reattched as the penis feels loose at the base and makes penetration in certain positions difficult.

In this thread members of thunderplace discuss getting the ligs reattached:

www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98113&page=1&pp=15

That\'s quite interesting. So for example, a patient has his suspensory ligaments cut and then stretches for 6-12 months and gains lets say, an inch in erect length.
If he has his suspensory ligaments reattached, could they attach the ligaments to a part of the penis that was further inside the body than before the lig cut?

Basically, do you think the patient would be able to keep his gains from stretching after the lig cut if he had his suspensory ligaments reattached?

KFH wrote:

hoddle10 wrote:

KFH wrote: So suspensory ligaments aren\'t really necessary compared to the fundiform ligaments hoddle?

Basically the ligs hold the penis in position. Without the support of ligaments the penis will just be loose and when erect will point downwards. The suspensory ligs are those at the front, so by releasing just them, the penis should still be pretty well supported. However this isn\'t always the case. I know of a couple of guys at Thundersplace who have had their suspensory ligaments cut, who now want them reattched as the penis feels loose at the base and makes penetration in certain positions difficult.

In this thread members of thunderplace discuss getting the ligs reattached:

www.thundersplace.org/forum/showthread.php?t=98113&page=1&pp=15

That\'s quite interesting. So for example, a patient has his suspensory ligaments cut and then stretches for 6-12 months and gains lets say, an inch in erect length.
If he has his suspensory ligaments reattached, could they attach the ligaments to a part of the penis that was further inside the body than before the lig cut?

Basically, do you think the patient would be able to keep his gains from stretching after the lig cut if he had his suspensory ligaments reattached?

According to Sava Perovic, the patient would lose his gains. Dr Perovic didn\'t claim patients would gain erect length though, so he was probably talking about losing flaccid gains. I don\'t think erect gains come from pulling the penis further out, so personally I don\'t think this would happen. Re-attaching the ligs is a tricky surgery and I don\'t think it has a high success rate.

As I\'ve stated in previous posts, before dying from cancer, I met with Professor Doctor Sava Perovic in Serbia. He was an excellent peyronie\'s surgeon and I would have chosen him over Egydio based on the graft material he uses (InteXen LP) as it is closer in physiology to a natural tunic. InteXen LP is still not approved for use in Brazil. Both Egydio and Perovic possess the experience and skill to carryout such a delicate procedure. He was a great man and he recommended against Ligamentolysis for Erect gains even when combined with postoperative traction. Severing of the suspensory and fundiform ligaments is a bad idea in my opinion. Of course, so is Jelqing, Hanging, Clamping, etc. When I queried Perovic, Egydio and Tom Lue concerning manual PE, they were unanimous on their viewpoint. \"Don\'t do it\" they stated emphatically. They are all masters of Urology and know more than anyone on Thunder\'s, Matters of Size, etc. While it may work for some, I prefer to listen to the experts. Do so at your own risk.

I cannot speak for those doctors, but I think their intention was to make patients avoid anything that altered the penis too fast, since it is not something you can \'fix\' quickly if damaged. If done correctly and over a longer time, there is not anything to be afraid of. Stretchers, for example, work very slowly, and gains are permanent.

@miracle7 - why were they against lengthening procedures? If you\'ve talked about this elsewhere, could you direct me to the right place? Gary Alter is also a Urologist I believe, and he performs lengthening surgery and recommends stretching post-op. He seems credible because, for example, he refuses to perform Girth operations bc he isn\'t satisfied that the outcome is reliable enough.