TOPIC: Dr. Loria and the Platinum method worked for me. Photos inside and feel free to ask questions.

Hiram Abif 33.

hoddle10 wrote: I\'m honestly thinking it could be some sort of gay version of the freemasons.

LMAO! I dont even know what that is (entirely) but it just made me crack up.

Could this be Loria\'s office??



I dont get why DongJohnson would pump in his \"before\" pics.. wouldn\'t that defeat the purpose? Or did you mean \"The first measured photo looks exactly like a pumped penis. \" as in - the first \"post-op\" penis?

To my eye, it looks like he has some filler in there bc the prominent dorsal vein pattern that he had in pic 1 diminished and the penis has a \"filler look\" - like many of us get. Like it\'s smooth and rubbery in photos...but that could be from pumping I guess. So, I\'m NOT saying anything about Loria not having shills (cuz...he does...duh...I reverse-image-searched the last one myself and it was sort of appalling to see them come up as dicks on various gay porn websites - and not even on good looking guys - so thanks for nothing Loria).

I just think Dong might have had something done - but it could be camera tricks or pumping. I don\'t know. There was one time I posted a review of a company on a board like this and EVERYONE called me a shill, bc they all had bad experiences w/ that company - but I wanted to set the record straight & when I posted pics they got even more suspicious and hostile like \"how could I have such good \'professional\' pics??\" It was a company that refinishes floors - and the idea that I used Mr. Sandless - and my floors didn\'t turn into a big mess made them think i was 100% shill - I was just like - \"why does everyone hate Mr. Sandless so much?? They\'re awesome.\" And then they demanded to know more and more - and see pics - and then they still called me a shill - so I called them a bag of c*nts... I\'m still mildly pissed at the idiots on that board though...as if someone can\'t have a good experience w/ a company? Sorry I didn\'t want my 3 year old floors stripped bare and to get poisoned with mineral spirits and the eternal smell of newly applied varnish you dumb c*unts (this is my favorite word when I\'m pissed). But, whatever...I\'m obviously a shill for Mr. Sandless cuz I was a happy customer and have a camera. Note - I was the first ever positive reviewer of Mr. sandless - so there wasn\'t an extensive history of BS drama like here. It just reminds me of that experience.

hoddle10 wrote: Those first 2 photos aren\'t jpegs. They\'ve been reformatted. So unlike the other photos we can\'t see the date they were taken. He could have wrapped his penis to make it look like something had been done.

Wow - I had no idea what stays in the properties of pics - even when they\'re uploaded... I suspect most people don\'t realize it. You are a true phallo detective. And I thought I was fancy with my reverse image search.

Restoration wrote: There was one time I posted a review of a company on a board like this and EVERYONE called me a shill, bc they all had bad experiences w/ that company - but I wanted to set the record straight & when I posted pics they got even more suspicious and hostile like \"how could I have such good \'professional\' pics??\" It was a company that refinishes floors - and the idea that I used Mr. Sandless - and my floors didn\'t turn into a big mess made them think i was 100% shill - I was just like - \"why does everyone hate Mr. Sandless so much?? They\'re awesome.\" And then they demanded to know more and more - and see pics - and then they still called me a shill - so I called them a bag of c*nts... I\'m still mildly pissed at the idiots on that board though...as if someone can\'t have a good experience w/ a company?

And this would be a plausible scenario here if dongjonhnson didn\'t have such a hard time adding up.

When you made your posts on that forum, did you:
Know whether or not the company you hired had a prior history of shilling on that forum?Have an account that remained inactive for many months before posting?If you answered \"yes\" to bullet #2, did it happen to coincide with the recent busting of a chill on that forum?Were your photos reformatted or submitted in a random variety? Professional photos aren\'t a red flag, but providing such a variety in photo styles is weird. Did you have that same problem?Started a thread that had some sort of pitch, even if it wasn\'t intentionally sales-ish (e.g. \"real deal,\" \"call him if you don\'t believe me,\" etc)?If you answered \"no\" to most or all of those bullet points, your home improvement forum overreacted. lol.

Edit: I actually just found it - so it\'s interesting my memory is a little different from the reality of this. But basically...

I had a new account, so one of them said something about how I just made this account & happened to have all these pics - so I was a shill. Then, others who didn\'t think I was a shill told me how hideous the floors looked. (Made no sense - they looked perfect).

I don\'t want to put the link here in case they can see back links & then 50 pics of my Dick. If you want to see it, I\'ll PM you. I do actually sound shill-ish a little bit, and then I was kind of an ass hole in my reply later on. But, I was very very stressed out trying to sell my place at that time, after the real estate crash. And, I was more of a Dick back then, in general.

The timing of Dong\'s post is ridiculous - the day after you busted sylvester? lol... it\'s completely unbelievable. If these loria posters really wanted to \"share their experiences\" they need to start a journal, so perhaps that will be coming soon...with bruises and everything.

So - just to be clear, I\'m not saying he\'s for real - believe me - I suppose there was no reason to post that mr. sandless story other than i am still irritated about it - and maybe if someone DOES come here and is for real, we should just be careful about descending on them like a mob. I\'m not really talking about Loria patients, given his history. There might be new docs coming up...other fillers, etc.

I haven\'t actually seen this board do the mob thing like other boards do far worse (the WORST are the diet boards like anything related to discussion of the master cleanse or the paleo/keto - they are insane if you don\'t have amazing results like they did or ask a question that was in their 800 page FAQ). I mean, didn\'t Dane say he was happy w/ Elist? You let him talk about it (and then he wasn\'t)...most boards would be far more hostile.

\" ... I now have a new life long mission to determine who is behind this forum and to make sure it is exposed as a biased group of ass holes ...\"

blablablabla ...What clearly Dong and Mr. Loria don\'t get is that they are messing with the wrong people. This is not the Schmuck Club where parasites can waltz into and excrete verbal rubbish without being held accountable. In other words, and phrasing it in a way Dong can relate to (he clearly continues to visit this site), eons before Dong got a job as a shill, PhalloBoards already was on a life long mission to disinfest the Phalloplasty online debate from unscrupulous individuals. We love to hear about new techniques, experiments, projects, etc. in the Phalloplasty arena: this is the very essence of this forum, i.e. to provide a platform to gather knowledge, innovation, thoughts, statistics and reports on PE related matters. Accordingly, we also deeply welcome views and propositions from practitioners (clinics, etc) themselves: all we ask for is a straightforward presentation of their ideas, product and unbiased clinical evidence. On the other hand, we will continue to operate a zero tolerance policy with those who attempt to surreptitiously sell their merchandise with devious tactics. And we will expose them.

One way around it and make things simple for yourself is to verify pictures, lots of website do that now. Maybe put a sticky thread warning of quack doctors, and if someone is proved to be a shill, delete the thread, to prevent advertising.

I will share with you some behind the scene work I had done when this loria BS first came out on this board. I talked to him directly and even made an appointment with him. He gave me claims of inches of LENGTH and Girth with three treatments of $12000 total. He laso gave me names and numbers of three of his customers. I contacted them ALL. They were ALL gays and they were all supposedly 8\" to 10\" EL!!!! I have their names and phone numbers. They all gave WRONG answers to my carefully selected questions. One of them sent me pictures of his Dick, and as usual the before and after pix were not of the same Dick. They also had the infamous \"rings\" on....

I called his office to confirm my appointment and asked the secretary what the best airport to fly into was and she did not even know! I actually had a business flight to FL in that time period and I was 100% committed to give him a visit, at least to give him a non deserved benefit of doubt. MY business plan got cancelled and of course I did not pursue it any further. Later on, More and more negative info came out about him to remind of my horrors with the butcher elist

While I will never know for sure that this BMW M3 guy is real or not, there are so many red flags to consider. Not all the pix are of the same Dick.

I certainly hope that this site did not do any injustice to the OP of this thread, but the odds are slim it did!

Live long and F*** long time

Mustang2020 wrote: I will share with you some behind the scene work I had done when this loria BS first came out on this board. I talked to him directly and even made an appointment with him. He gave me claims of inches of LENGTH and Girth with three treatments of $12000 total. He laso gave me names and numbers of three of his customers. I contacted them ALL. They were ALL gays and they were all supposedly 8\" to 10\" EL!!!! I have their names and phone numbers. They all gave WRONG answers to my carefully selected questions. One of them sent me pictures of his Dick, and as usual the before and after pix were not of the same Dick. They also had the infamous \"rings\" on....

I bet if you googled them you\'d find they are all real people, middle aged and living in different parts of the country.

This is starting to look like \"the only bad publicity, is NO publicity\". If in fact all of these guys are \"shills\" or in fact the \"good doctor\" himself (I\'m not informed enough to say), then it looks like Loria\'s intent may be to just keep his name in people\'s mouths. Politicians do this kind of stuff. They mention their name and their party many times over in the media, on signs posted throughout towns, etc. to attract the undereducated voter. Seems like a similar tactic may be at use here.

BTBassist wrote: This is starting to look like \"the only bad publicity, is NO publicity\". If in fact all of these guys are \"shills\" or in fact the \"good doctor\" himself (I\'m not informed enough to say), then it looks like Loria\'s intent may be to just keep his name in people\'s mouths. Politicians do this kind of stuff. They mention their name and their party many times over in the media, on signs posted throughout towns, etc. to attract the undereducated voter. Seems like a similar tactic may be at use here.

That\'s precisely one of the reasons why a topic-ban is being considered. Since the facts found in this forum can\'t be reconciled, it\'s much easier to keep the name & brand alive in the public domain. All it takes are a few men who are under-educated, impulsive, and/or impressionable to fall for the marketing trap, despite all the evidence found on these forums.

This method & physician brings nothing new, groundbreaking, or innovative to the forums, and on the contrary, is mysterious (not even his website indicates the product being injected), unethical (use of shills), and represents a side of the penis enlargement industry that has given Phalloplasty its shitty reputation for the past 2 decades.

In reading about al the negative feedback about Dr. L and Dr. C are there actually any positive reviews/results/feedback about any doctors performing procedures? Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have casually read this and other forums in the past but mostly see only negative posts. That of course could be for a good reason, maybe there are no good doctors in this field. But I am searching and curious ... Thanks.

harry wrote: In reading about al the negative feedback about Dr. L and Dr. C are there actually any positive reviews/results/feedback about any doctors performing procedures? Sorry if this has been asked before, but I have casually read this and other forums in the past but mostly see only negative posts. That of course could be for a good reason, maybe there are no good doctors in this field. But I am searching and curious ... Thanks.

Just keep reading. It may take you weeks/months to digest and form a more educated opinion (& decision).

I talked to him close to a year ago and caught him off guard with some ?s that were detailed.

The lie I that he got caught in was he said its not silicone, thing is he told ksat in florida it was.

He said that he doesnt do any PMMA any more, I asked what it consist of if its not the 2, he sounded like he knew he was trapped and just said it builds collogen

I think hes just pumping in silicone and then your stuck, out of money unless you get good results.

He is knowledgeable but not trusting that.

Has anyone ever figured what material he is injecting, especially he is using it in the glans