TOPIC: Dr. Loria girth enhancement process results

The funny thing about that picture of me is that I later went in to get that lump removed. Rather than just removing the lump, the doctor went in and took ALL the PMMA out in the lower left area there. So, he basically recreated the same bizarre shape - but left me with a smaller (thinner) Dick. He claimed he \"couldn\'t separate the hardened PMMA from the normal PMMA\" - which is BS. He didn\'t want to waste the time doing it and was sick of operating on me. I was wide awake during the other procedures, and you can very easily carve the PMMA down, like Dr. Alter does.

For this particular surgery, he was also going in through the scrotum, so maybe it was harder to carve - but not impossible. He then removed excess scrotal skin and sort of allowed the scrotal skin to come up onto the shaft to replace the areas where skin had to be removed due to the PMMA Removal. Now, around 10 months later, I can see it wasn\'t that effective (the scrotum just doesn\'t become your shaft... and the parts that do are very hairy...) Also, a scrotalplasty looks kinda weird when it\'s all healed. most guys have some webbing. I didn\'t have excess webbing, but the idea was to sort of move the web to the shaft and cut the rest off... and this really isn\'t something that was ever done before. It didn\'t come out \"bad\" but it also didn\'t really do what I thought it would do. And my Balls are much smaller lol. Well, the scrotum is.. obviously my testicles are not.

edit - sorry I didn\'t mean to hijack the thread... when I saw my pic there I just wanted to give more details. I didn\'t expect to see that.

Cctman wrote: Hoddle you think maybe you can back off a bit and stop hijacking my thread yet? I\'m trying to keep this thread up for informational purposes and I\'m going through a lot of work trying to get you guys live updates images and updates so everyone can make their own informed decision.

I was asking you for information!

So it\'s a permanent filler, that produces collagen and you have informed us that it isn\'t silicone or PMMA.

But Dr Loria\'s website says he uses FDA approved fillers.

However the only permanent FDA approved filler are PMMA or Silicone.

You say he has a patent for it, which as Hunkydory points out, should mean he doesn\'t need to keep the ingredients a secret. So can\'t you post a link to the patent or at least show us where Dr Loria says he has this patent?

It\'s not hijacking your thread, as the answers to these questions will provide important information, which is in part your wish.

hoddle10 wrote:
I was asking you for information!

So it\'s a permanent filler, that produces collagen and you have informed us that it isn\'t silicone or PMMA.

But Dr Loria\'s website says he uses FDA approved fillers.

However the only permanent FDA approved filler are PMMA or Silicone.

You say he has a patent for it, which as Hunkydory points out, should mean he doesn\'t need to keep the ingredients a secret. So can\'t you post a link to the patent or at least show us where Dr Loria says he has this patent?

It\'s not hijacking your thread, as the answers to these questions will provide important information, which is in part your wish.

No I don\'t know what\'s in the filler nor am I going to call to ask. I simply don\'t care. And I trust the results outweigh the risks which in my book as I pointed out are less likely to cause permenant damage than eating hotdogs in which you also really don\'t know what is in them.

What I will do is keep everyone informed though as to help those that want the info of the before and after results.

So let me see if I got this right.. You want to help people do informed decisions / keep people informed.. But you don\'t want information on what you are doing to your Dick?

I would really like to know what he actualy use! (I suspect they are right about the silicone tho)

andydandy wrote: So let me see if I got this right.. You want to help people do informed decisions / keep people informed.. But you don\'t want information on what you are doing to your Dick?

I would really like to know what he actualy use! (I suspect they are right about the silicone tho)

I do not have an answer to your question. I hope my posts will help in other ways. If you have questions about my personal experience I\'m open to share along the way. Take care!

If anyone is interested I\'ll try and remember to take pics of the 7 day re wrap protocol. It\'s a very strict procedure that helps hold the filler in place during the collagen build up process. This along with daily periodic massaging shapes the filler. It\'s basically an art form. You are very much in control of the shape of your penis and lack of attention to detail can show.

Cctman wrote: If anyone is interested I\'ll try and remember to take pics of the 7 day re wrap protocol. It\'s a very strict procedure that helps hold the filler in place during the collagen build up process. This along with daily periodic massaging shapes the filler. It\'s basically an art form. You are very much in control of the shape of your penis and lack of attention to detail can show.

This sounds like an advertisement. This, along with mentions of lawyers, patents, and \"anger\" when SO simply inquired about a sponsored connection, makes this an easy one for me. Shill.

chester wrote: This sounds like an advertisement. This, along with mentions of lawyers, patents, and \"anger\" when SO simply inquired about a sponsored connection, makes this an easy one for me. Shill.

Dude why don\'t you tell me which words not to say so I know personaly not to make you feel uncomfortable or offend you.

This guy seems very suspicious to me. No one would get anything injected into their penis without knowing what it was. Who is that stupid?

I\'m a member of 2 silicone enhancement groups. Some do look very good. But most go too far and no longer like a normal penis. But everyone who does it is aware of the severity of the possible complications, which Hoodie pointed out.

I don\'t think it\'s responsible to advertise these procedures on general Phalloplasty forums, as it only takes one or two nice looking results and then others will start to see it as a viable option.

Silicone migration, hard lumps and rings are very real possibilities. It can also burn through the skin.

Silicone was banned in US for a reason and I think it\'s irresponsible to discuss it here. The yahoo groups I\'m a member require a application before joining. Anyone can read this forum.

Tutti wrote: This guy seems very suspicious to me. No one would get anything injected into their penis without knowing what it was. Who is that stupid?

I\'m a member of 2 silicone enhancement groups. Some do look very good. But most go too far and no longer like a normal penis. But everyone who does it is aware of the severity of the possible complications, which Hoodie pointed out.

I don\'t think it\'s responsible to advertise these procedures on general Phalloplasty forums, as it only takes one or two nice looking results and then others will start to see it as a viable option.

Silicone migration, hard lumps and rings are very real possibilities. It can also burn through the skin.

Silicone was banned in US for a reason and I think it\'s irresponsible to discuss it here. The yahoo groups I\'m a member require a application before joining. Anyone can read this forum.

Ok so let\'s play your silly game for a second. Why don\'t you tell me the exact ingredients that are used in a common hotdog. I want to know since no one would ever consume a freekin hotdog after all without knowing the exact chemical composition of each food used. Which animal parts and in what ratios are used? How about simple city water? Tell me each name of bacteria that is offest and proper ratio of fluoride and other associated minerals that deter them. After all your ice maker makes ice from city water and no one is stupid enough to put that in their body. Want to move to cigarettes next?

Second point of course there exists risks associated with any medical procedure. When did I say or imply there was not? There is risk to everything. But it\'s not your responsibility to declare what is too great of a risk for others. It is an individuals choice.

And you really need to stop with the whole advertisement bull crap. It\'s called education. When did I offer some discount or whatever and furthermore how would one prove that I\'m not and I\'m legit? what proof should I offer? And what good do you do by claiming I\'m a shill?

Tutti wrote: This guy seems very suspicious to me. No one would get anything injected into their penis without knowing what it was. Who is that stupid?

I\'m a member of 2 silicone enhancement groups. Some do look very good. But most go too far and no longer like a normal penis. But everyone who does it is aware of the severity of the possible complications, which Hoodie pointed out.

I don\'t think it\'s responsible to advertise these procedures on general Phalloplasty forums, as it only takes one or two nice looking results and then others will start to see it as a viable option.

Silicone migration, hard lumps and rings are very real possibilities. It can also burn through the skin.

Silicone was banned in US for a reason and I think it\'s irresponsible to discuss it here. The yahoo groups I\'m a member require a application before joining. Anyone can read this forum.

\"I don\'t think it\'s responsible to advertise these procedures on general Phalloplasty forums, as it only takes one or two nice looking results and then others will start to see it as a viable option. \"

I think it irresponsible of you to assume advertising when in fact you don\'t have your facts straight and it could very well be someone trying to educate others looking for advice and options according to their personal experience.

Ok so let\'s play your silly game for a second. Why don\'t you tell me the exact ingredients that are used in a common hotdog.

Mechanically separated chicken: Looking more like strawberry frosting than blended meat and bone bits, the USDA defines mechanically separated poultry (MSP) as 'a paste-like and batter-like poultry product produced by forcing bones, with attached edible tissue, through a sieve or similar device under high pressure to separate bone from the edible tissue.' Hot dogs can contain any amount of mechanically separated chicken or turkey.Pork: According to 1994 USDA rules, any meat labeled as the meat it is can be taken off the bone by advanced meat recovery (AMR) machinery that \"separates meat from bone by scraping, shaving, or pressing the meat from the bone without breaking or grinding the bone.\"Water The USDA states that hot dogs must contain less than 10 percent water.Corn syrup: A combo of cornstarch and acids, corn syrup is used as a thickener and sweetener ' it contains few beneficial nutrients but does add extra calories.Salt: Hot dogs are salty, that\'s part of their job. And in fact, each one has about 480 milligrams, the rough equivalent of 20 percent of your recommended daily allowance.Potassium lactate: This hydroscopic, white, odorless solid is prepared commercially by the neutralization of lactic acid with potassium hydroxide. The FDA allows its use as a flavor enhancer, flavoring agent, humectant, pH control agent, and for inhibiting the growth of certain pathogens.Sodium phosphates: Any of three sodium salt of phosphoric acids that can be used as a food preservative or to add texture ' because the texture is important when you\'re eating a tube of meat paste.Flavor: It has flavor! Under current FDA guidelines, most flavoring agents allowed to be listed as \"flavor\" rather specified individually, so, this remains a bit of a mystery.Beef stock: You know the drill: Boiled water with pieces of muscle, bones, joints, connective tissue and other scraps of the carcass.Sodium diacetate: This is a molecular compound of acetic acid, sodium acetate, and water of hydration. The FDA allows its use as an antimicrobial agent, a flavoring agent and adjuvant, a pH control agent, and as an inhibitor of the growth of certain pathogens.Sodium erythorbate: A sodium salt of erythorbic acid, it is often used as a preservative and helps meat-based products keep their rosy hue. Side effects have been reported, such as dizziness, gastrointestinal issues, headaches and on occasion, kidney stones.Maltodextrin: Basically, a filler and/or thickening agent used in processed foods, it\'s a compound made from cooked starch, corn, or wheat.Sodium nitrite: This common preservative helps preserve cured meat ' studies have shown that consuming sodium nitrite may increase cancer risk and trigger migraines. Animal studies have linked sodium nitrates to an increased risk of cancer.

Paprika extract: An oil-based extract from the paprika plant used for color and longer shelf life.


***seriously there is less mystery as to what\'s in a hot dog than what Loria put in your Dick. Imagine going to a doctor if there is an issue and the doctor asks what is your Dick and you say \"I don\'t know but it cost me a couple grand to get it in there.\"

Cctman wrote: \"I don\'t think it\'s responsible to advertise these procedures on general Phalloplasty forums, as it only takes one or two nice looking results and then others will start to see it as a viable option. \" I think it irresponsible of you to assume advertising when in fact you don\'t have your facts straight and it could very well be someone trying to educate others looking for advice and options according to their personal experience.

You are advertising whether that is your intention or not.

How can you be trying to educate people when you don\'t even know what has been injected? I think that is what most people are struggling to get their heads around here. If anything you are educating people in how not to choose a penis enlargement operation. The don\'t ask what is being injected and rationalize it due to something to do with sausages method of selection is probably best avoided.

In all seriousness though, I think I get what you are trying to do. However, you need to be aware there can be consequences to this. I say this because the biggest mistake of my life was getting Belloderm surgery. I did this off the back of reading a progress report and seeing some very impressive photos. Had I known then what I know now about the common complications of Belloderm surgery I wouldn\'t have done it. I don\'t log on here often but usually when I don there is a message in my inbox from someone who has read about my issues and are now experiencing something similar. I posted a glowing progress report on the MNS forum under the username \"littlewoody.\" I regret it to this day, I\'m sure it must have influenced others to get the same surgery. I know I influenced a member here called \"Yardstick\", and like me, he later suffered complications.

I get what you are trying to do, but you are in no position to educate anyone until you know exactly what the filler is, are several years post procedure and know of numerous others who have had the same procedure for a lengthy period of time. I had nothing but good things to say about my procedure for over a year. Now by penis bends like a banana to the left, i can feel the graft, sex is painful and I\'m shorter. I know more men in similar situations than have had good results with Belloderm. I was in no position to educate anyone and I sincerely regret the posts I made on MNS, many of which were very dismissive of those warning against me.

Cctman wrote:
Do you know everything injected into a hotdog and yet you still eat them all the time? More people die from cardiac arrest and obesity than the effects of penile plastic surgery. I think I made my point clearly! Thank you!

Thiis is the single worst argument (and post for that matter) for any procedure in the history of procedures.

This is all very insightful, engaging, and even...amusing. But Cctman, will you care to address my concern with the \"4,000 penile patients over 7 years\" question? Because while many arguments posed by some of the brightest minds on this forum were probably far more damning & revealing than my own inquiry, I\'m still stuck on the shamelessness of your first statistical claim. Thanks in advance.