TOPIC: Fat transfer Vs Fillers for girth ?

Androfill wrote:
I am sorry but this is just fat transfer, there is nothing special about Nano-fat, it is marketing.
Fat transfer to the penis does not work well. That is why everyone is looking for alternatives on here.

You think but you don\'t know it\'s marketing. Seems legit to me. I\'ll keep looking into it.

Seems legit to me. I\'ll keep looking into it.

It doesn\'t seem like anything other than a fat transfer to me. Good luck.

Androfill wrote:
It doesn\'t seem like anything other than a fat transfer to me. Good luck.

I\'m still looking into it so there\'s no rush.

What do you recommend for permanent 0.5\" Girth ? 1 round only.

Androfill wrote:
www.mrferrando.com/cosmetic-surgery/nanofat-or-nanograft/
It looks messy and manual to me compared to LipiVage. They are centrifuging the fat, it does not look like a process that conserves cell integrity.
Even with the purest fat handled with care, fat revascularisation is arbitrary, it is not predictable. It can all survive together in clusters.

Here Nano fat is equated with micro-fat grafting.
www.cosmedicalclinic.gr/en/plastic-surgery/nano-fat-grafting/
I am certain this is just marketing.

If there is something to it there many great reports and these clinics must be hugely successful by now.

Like JJ I too have talked to and will be meeting with a doc about the ALMI man shot this week. I am definitely skeptical because almost to a man on here everyone raves about PMMA and pisses on the fat transfer method. And I realize the high failure rate of fat but again he will use prp to try to ensure a good blood supply. I will ask him if prp is a myth or if it really works. I had a prp shot by itself. It was all right didn't do much. It's kind of a scam by itself but maybe could work as a compliment to the fft.

I asked the doctor point blank over the phone if things go south will he treat me for lumps bumps cysts and nodules that could result. He said of course but I'll grill him about it again on Friday. He is in the tri state area of NY. I prefer not to publicize his name just yet but I will after my appt. He said the fat is treated after aspiration from abdomen or legs but it is not the same type of fat harvesting one might get from a BBL or fat transfer to other muscles like biceps and triceps. I said to him there is no way you can inject same type of fat u would into a muscle as u would the bucks and dartos fascia of a penis because it is not a muscle. I believe the penis tissue is muscle tissue but the organ itself is an organ obviously and not a muscle. The other options are smooth and connective tissue. If I'm wrong about penis tissue please feel free to correct me.

I know PMMA looks amazing and guys say it feels amazing but the idea of tiny plastic spheres in my junk scares me. I have said that in prior posts on this board and I apologize for repeating myself it just would seem alien to me to have that in there. But having said that I don't judge other guys for doing it. It is your body and God bless for doing whatever u feel is right. I really mean that and cheers to all the guys who have it and are healthy and safe. I just feel like there may be a shelf life to it. And Hyloronic acid is a safer option but it's a racket. U pay over 10 grand and it lasts for what 18-24 months! I'm not that liquid and even if I was I want something done once maybe twice and let's go! Set it and forget it lol! Or set it and let's shred it!!!

I checked your web site and u guys claim to use LipiVage technology to ensure a permanent or semi permanent result and looks like u may get length and width enlargement from fat transfer? Do I have that right? Can u pm with more info or is it all on your web site? I'm in NYC but I hear the jet stream can make flights quick across the pond. I am just looking for locker room size. When I get erect things spring to life and I get good length and girth but limp my dick is a wimp lol! If I had my erect size as my limp size I wouldn't even be on here I'd be happy but as it stands now my dick hardly fills up my Levi's.

The guys on here are good dudes. Very supportive and open and I really love that this site exists. It's a support group for the lesser endowed but more and more guys are becoming hung thanks to pmma and hyloronic and that's fantastic. But I like a lot of guys are still searching for that safe permanent fix. Could be wishful thinking but hopefully it's out there.

There could be a great deal of guys out there who have had successful procedures done but just prefer to keep it and the doctors who performed them to themselves. I would share success with this board because I want all guys to be happy with their bodies because God knows I am insecure as hell thanks to my lack of junk. But maybe a lot of guys don't want to do that or maybe they simply don't know about this web site or are just too busy with their lives to give it a thought. Do I wish every guy who had successful fft surgery would come on here and share their story yes but I don't begrudge them at all. I know I know most guys on here are gonna say reason u don't hear success stories about fft because there are no successes because it is a flop.

But Morganstern has had successes long term as has Giunta. I may call Giunta again and c what he has to say. I talked to him about a year ago. He seems good but he had some issues a decade ago so I remain skeptical but I think he has cleaned up his act. Also last time I talked to him I said don't u think penis enlargement is kinda like the Wild West. I didn't mean to insult him but he didn't like that I said that lol! All I meant was pe isn't exactly in the mainstream of procedures like breast augmentation or rhinoplasty in the US. Plus it isn't regulated and is for all intents and purposes experimental. I meant no disrespect it just came out wrong.

I jjust want to try a more natural approach. I also wonder about umbilical cord stem cells I read they have a greater stimulative effect than autologous fat stem cells. There apparently is a growth factor to them and the fact that the cells are young and new makes a real difference. They may not just be a filler but could grow tissue. Again I may have that wrong I but I believe I read it on the web. Maybe it has more of a growth effect in muscle than in tissue.

Let me know if u can provide more info on your UK clinic. I hope Lipivage isn't just marketing like u claim ALMI is. It really looka terrific and the animation looks good. Price seems reasonable too. I don't know the pound to dollar conversion right now but it seems it is around what $5000 US? That's all right: reasonable.

Thanks a lot and take it easy on JJ he's just tying his best like we all are. Peace it and thanks again

WBH45

Nice post @wannabhung45. Sounds like you have a lot of decisions to make. I went through the FFT procedure many years ago when it was brand new and the results where disappointing. We are probably on 4th generation FFT at this point so i believe patients are getting better results then they did in the past.

If i could offer some adivice, pick a Doctor that has the knowledge to treat you should any complications arise. Many Doctors who are providing Fillers have very little knowledge of the Penis itself. The worst situation to me is having to search out a Urologist when complications have developed and having to explain why you have a filler in your Dick. I would think twice about going out of the country to have a procedure done because of the distance. Again if everything goes smoothly then it's not a big deal but when things don't go as planned everything becomes more complicated.

I have never been to Dr. Morganstern's office but he is a one stop shop. He has been injecting FFT for over 20 years and is a double board certified Urologist. He understands the inner workings of the penis and is also a surgeon. It doesn't have to be him but look for a doctor with similar credentials. If you live in NY a trip to Atlanta is more feesable then flying to London when your in a panic over unforeseen complications.

It's important that we have a Plan B when we do these procedures. What if it doesn't go well then what do i do? Who would i go to for help? When i did my procedure my Doctor was the only one who did it so there were no so called experts who understood my proceedure. I developed a pain in my shaft a few years ago and it's embarrassing going to a Urologist and explaining that i have fat in my penis.

I don't mean to tell you what to do but just giving you something to think about.

Eddie: Thanks so much. Always love advice.. You are right for sure. I'm just going to listen to the Almi doc near where I live. UK trip prob a long shot but interested in LipiVage technique.

Giunta is in Virginia so he is another option like I said. Morgenstern seems to be the man and his pics of long term successes look good too. His assistant is a little slick but he seems like a decent enough guy. He's a salesman so he has to play things up which is his job. I did call him on that 100% success rate. No way every patient is satisfied and there are no complications. It's just not realistic and truthful. It's natural for there to sometimes be difficulties and complications. Just be transparent. As long as u help me with the complications then we're cool. It seems like they clean up not only their work but many other docs as well.

I hope they have cleaned up FFT but judging from what guys say on here it is mostly PMMA or bust lol! I'll be very careful because my junk works great and can get big Erect just looking for that good Flaccid size. So I'll c how things go.

Thanks again! Peace it!

Is there anyone on here who has has good results with FFT ? Everything here is PMMA.

wannabhung45 wrote: I did call him on that 100% success rate. No way every patient is satisfied and there are no complications. It's just not realistic and truthful. It's natural for there to sometimes be difficulties and complications. Just be transparent. As long as u help me with the complications then we're cool. It seems like they clean up not only their work but many other docs as well.

I hope they have cleaned up FFT but judging from what guys say on here it is mostly PMMA or bust lol! I'll be very careful because my junk works great and can get big Erect just looking for that good Flaccid size. So I'll c how things go.

Thanks again! Peace it!

Well said buddy.

I just finished my nano fat transfer today. I won\'t be able to tell you anything besides my Dick looks very swollen. I did my surgery with Dr. Shed in Orlando

I just finished my nano fat transfer today. I won\'t be able to tell you anything besides my Dick looks very swollen. I did my surgery with Dr. Shed in Orlando

Just curious, what made you go with the fat transfer and not PMMA ? What did you pay ?

This site has been going for many years. I find it very interesting that during that time we have been discussing fat transfer techniques and the Dr\'s performing them. But it isn\'t until recently that we start hearing about Morganstern as the \"most successful FFT practicioner\", and his techniques lasting for over 25 years. Also surprising is it\'s just thrown around here as fact. Do we even have a single patient previous to 3 years ago that had this perfect FFT technique with 100% rate? Logically thinking, if he was so successful, than 8-10 years ago when we were discussing Dr\'s like Giunta, his name would have come up or we\'d have at least 1 guy that went to him? Nope, we do not. Sounds like a well constructed marketing campaign to me. One good aspect is that he is a Urologist, so when it absorbs or becomes fibrotic he can charge you for his services again and do a great job fixing things that don\'t work. Just my opinion.
Regards
LL

Just curious, what made you go with the fat transfer and not PMMA ? What did you pay ?

I paid $4000,-. I decided to go with fat transfer because of its natural substance and my doctor is just around the corner. BTW, I misspell the doctors name. Junaid Syed.
The doctor also made me feel comfortable due to knowledge and experience.

I paid $4000,-. I decided to go with fat transfer because of its natural substance and my doctor is just around the corner. BTW, I misspell the doctors name. Junaid Syed.
The doctor also made me feel comfortable due to knowledge and experience.

Oh cool. So it\'s been about a week, how\'s it looking ? Hasn\'t fallen off has it lol ?