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28 Jun 2017 20:42
wouldnt all you be doing is just stretching the skin and getting your skin ready?

I\'m planning on September for my first round of PMMA. I\'m wanting the silikon and HA in the Glans and as much 30% in the shaft as it will take. I feel like hanging with the BIB has really stretched my skin and made it ready to accept alot of filler.
29 May 2017 03:59
Hey guys,

So right now i\'m hanging with the bib. Does anyone see a problem with hanging with the bib post PMMA? I\'m planning on August right now.

I like the BiB because i can do heavy weights.

Also i hate my Peni master pro.. Should i go with the Phalo Forte? or is there a better one people recommend?

i appreciate the input.


24 Mar 2017 06:30
Hi bolkonski. How is your progress so far?

how much daily hanging time you dedicated to the BIB when you moved from 6 to 7.75?

what was your routine and weights?
24 Mar 2017 06:30

Bolkonsky wrote: Just an update. Not sure if anyone cares but It feels good to let it out.

I\'ve been hanging alot more with my BIB and am now back to a solid 7.25\"bpel. My bpfsl is only 7.75\" It used to be 8.25\" so hopefully i can get back up there soon.

I coulndt decide wether to get the LG or THE GRIP. So i looked into the LG and said hell i can make that.

So i\'m now in the process of making 2 of my own LG hangers for a total of about $80. I just bought a house so i\'m a little tight on funds.

I\'m planning on hanging 1 heavy set in the morning with the bib (25lbs for 20 min) then an hour with my DIY LG.... then work (still need to find a good ADS) then another heavy set with bib.. and maybe 2 hours of my DIY LG all in the evenings.

I\'m hoping to get back to 7.75bpel within 6 months. I called DR. C and am reading through the pack and going to call a consultatoion with WADE... I\'m pretty excited about my plan. I hope it all works out.

Bolkonsky


Based on your previous expertise it seems you could get 8\" just by hanging,jelqing etc.. this is your domain you know this shit..Besides what already is the difference bet a 7.85 and 8\" dick..Its less than a .5 difference a lig cut could do which makes it not worth the downside risks involved..u got this..
24 Mar 2017 06:30
UPDATE!!

Okay so i\'ve been hanging like a madman for a few weeks now... I\'m back to a very immature 7.5\"bpel (big gain real quick i know) its more like a solid 7.25\"bpel.

My EQ is through the fucking rough!!! its actually a problem because I use the BIB for now and i sometimes have to play a game of pool to get my hardon to go away then i can strap dick into the torcher (spelling) device. I also cut down my test from about 1g/week to 500mg/week. The real stuff not the gel you all are chatting about.

I\'m in the process of building my own LG hanger. I just got the parts in the mail today so i\'ll start on that over the weekend. It cost me about 100 dollars for everything. But i have enough acrylic to build 3 of them... so i might have some spares hangers .. lol I feel like i can customize it better to my gland than anyone so i\'m hopeful it will workout.

I contacted DR C and they said they dont schedule appointments as far out as i\'m wanting. I\'m hopeing to go next winter (when work slows down) and getting it done. I\'m hoping to be 8\" by then... ambitious hanging? you betchya. But i can do it.


2coolbeans yea i\'ve clamped, twisted streches, uli\'s pumped. I think i\'m a fairly experienced PEer... I\'ve gone from 5.0\"meg to 5.5\"meg. and my base is stupid thick. I want my gland and the top part to be over 6 tho.






24 Mar 2017 06:30
Just an update. Not sure if anyone cares but It feels good to let it out.

I\'ve been hanging alot more with my BIB and am now back to a solid 7.25\"bpel. My bpfsl is only 7.75\" It used to be 8.25\" so hopefully i can get back up there soon.

I coulndt decide wether to get the LG or THE GRIP. So i looked into the LG and said hell i can make that.

So i\'m now in the process of making 2 of my own LG hangers for a total of about $80. I just bought a house so i\'m a little tight on funds.

I\'m planning on hanging 1 heavy set in the morning with the bib (25lbs for 20 min) then an hour with my DIY LG.... then work (still need to find a good ADS) then another heavy set with bib.. and maybe 2 hours of my DIY LG all in the evenings.

I\'m hoping to get back to 7.75bpel within 6 months. I called DR. C and am reading through the pack and going to call a consultatoion with WADE... I\'m pretty excited about my plan. I hope it all works out.

Bolkonsky
24 Mar 2017 06:30
Hi guys, bolkonsky here from pegym a few years back. some may remember.. I\'ll try and make this short

My story:

About 6 years ago i started off with a very small dong 6\"bpel by just under 5\" MEG. I joined PeGym, where i eventually got kicked out for not being a good ol\'boy, and learned about manual PE and its limitations; along with self-righteous moderators on a penis website.

I started hanging alot (with BIB) and got to 7.75\" bpel.. i was kicking ass, but i really dedicated a prodigious amount of time and effort to the endeavor. Then i went to prison for a year, (another story) where i tried to continue to PE when i wasn\'t busy fighting. Didnt work too well. 3 years after my 7.75bpel i\'m now at 7\" bpel, and with 100% eq i\'ll max at 7.25\"bpel.

with pumping and ULI\'s and dry jelqing i got my girth up to 5.25\" girth (cold) at the top of my dick and 6+\" on the bottom half. Hanging does wonders for the base girth. At the base i\'m about 6.75\" but most dont believe that.


Prison Beading:

When i was in prison, the gang i was affiliated with all had penis implants made from whittled toothbushes... yes this is 100% true. They are good dudes just not super bright. Stick with me here. I watched about 15 guys get this done. Of course no pain killers. Some guys about passed out. You would get a toothbrush, whittle the plastic part to whatever shape you wanted; one dude made a long one with a bunch of speed bumps, another craftier fellow made one with skull and bones, some hearts.. you get the picture. So I ended up helping with the procedure on a few guys. One dude would stretch the dick out(me), two dudes would hold the guy down and put a rag in the poor fucks mouth, then \'the surgeon\' with a razor blade made the incision and shank out (hallow out) the skin from the meat on the penis with a long metal tube. This was grousome and sometimes took 10 minutes to fully separate enough skin., then slide whatever the fuck the dude made into the dick and sow them back up with string pulled from the boxers. Then rinse off the shank and the next guy would sit on down... crazy! but it was fun watching these bozo\'s do this shit. And in a non homo way got a good up close look at a bunch of different dongs. No i didnt get it done.. only one that i know of got infected.

So this got me thinking why not just do this with silicone like fake boobs. And it lead me to phalloplasty! to you dudes!

HERE IS MY PLAN FOR 8\'\' x 6.5\'\'
plz input your knowledge.

First get my lig cut. Hang for a year. Even possibly do some fulcrum hanging. Mind you i\'m a very experienced hanger. Dont do this shit unless you know what you are doing. And then once i\'m 8\" and feeling good about it go get PMMA. Then continue doing maintenance hanging for the rest of my life, because i know the dick can and does shrink over time.

I\'ve gotten alot of stories and people telling me not to get my lig cut. I\'m still out to lunch on this issue. Please help me here guys. I\'ll do whatever the majority of you Pro\'s say is the right thing to do. I think maybe the reason why people shrink after they get their ligs cut is because they just dont hang. I\'m obviously not that guy. I plan on stretching and hanging most days until i\'m dead.

my current routine:
I\'m already hanging almost everyday as of right now. I\'m just doing it to keep things limber. I warm my dick up and put my bib on (5 min) then go cook breakfast with 20lbs hanging between my legs. Then shower where i do 5 min jelq. My dick hangs nice all day. And i dont even use an ADS.

I\'ve had a 7.75\" dick and the difference .75\" make is night and fucking day. I want it back. I just dont have the time to hang 6 hours a day like i used to. So i\'m thinking if i get my lig cut. And hang in the morning for an hour and use an ADS then i might be able to get to a solid 8\" within a year.

PMMA questions. plz plz help and answer if you know

Can i get it in my Gland to make my gland bigger?

Can i hang after it solidifies?
i\'d like to use the bib but i\'m not sure if it would crush and move the stuff around.
Can i Jelq after everything heals?
Jelqing has been my go to for EQ (erection quality)I also really like to dry jelq.
Can I do ULI\'s after everything heals?

Can I pump after everything heals?
I also like to use this as a workout for kegals and it promotes good EQ for me.
I\'m thinking about getting the TLC ventless tugger to use as an ADS to help make extra room in the dick for PMMA.. It pulls on the skin to help stretch it. Any thoughts on that? I dont know if that even makes sense.


I got a quote on the lig cutting for 4500$ if that means anything to anyone.

If i\'m forgetting anything plz ask or input.. Anything helps guys. Everything i\'ve read from everyone here is awesome. You all seem like good dudes.

Thanks so much

Bolkonsky





24 Mar 2017 05:11
@sizemic .. thanks for that. I really do like hanging with heavier wieghts (around 20lbs), so i\'d like to stick with my bib. my dick and my skin are really conditioned so I hope i can continue to hang with it after i get pmma done.

@mustang I\'ve heard great things about the LG. I dont have any personal experience. considering how thick your dick is i\'m not sure the bib would be the best bet but it might be. With the bib there are two different types. I have the bigger one. I think you need to have at least a 6 inch long dick to use it properly.. He also sells a cheaper one around 60$ i think for guys that are shorter or are just new to hanging.. I would try that.

If i were new and going to get into hanging i would get both. I would hang like 2 sets btc to stretch the skin/ligs and then just walk around with the LG for the rest of the day.

As far as an ADS goes I\'ve used a master lock hung around my gland and it works great. I put some theraband on the bottom where my bottom of my gland goes and i can wear it for hours. I dont have to take it off to pee. and every time i take a leak i just do a couple of jelq\'s and my dick hangs at like 6+ inches all day..

but to get ready for my PMMA i think i\'m going to get the TLC ventless tugger.. Its not a foreskin restorer but its an actual ads.. I\'ve heard great things about it. Plus i\'m thinking it might give me a little extra skin for the pmma to fill... I have no clue if this will work or is reasonable as i\'m still very new to the idea of PMMA.
24 Mar 2017 02:54

Bolkonsky wrote: Mustang... I read your whole story about 5 days ago. AMAZING bro. really amazing. Your an awesome dude. I have no idea if you can hang with a bib once a person has had PMMA done.. thats one thing i\'m really trying to figure out. The bib squeezes the dick pretty fucking hard so it might move some pmma around. NOT SURE. The trick to hanging mustange is for the first 3 -4 months hang btc (between the cheeks) with lots of lotion and heat to stretch the skin. There is alot of pain in this process but i\'m sure we all have iron wills here.. then you can start stretching the ligs.


Thx man, it has been, and still is, a journey!

I think I need a system that grabs the glans only and stretches the shaft. I need a system that I can wear almost all day long, I used to have an ADS with the silicone suction cup, it worked OK for me but my glans suffered. what you guys recommend.
23 Mar 2017 23:24
@Bolkonsky, PMMA won\'t move around from hanging once its all set / after collagen growth. With the Bib / squeezing I\'d be more worried about the pressure on the tissue and pain then it moving or shifting... once its in there and set you\'d pretty much have to cut it out to get it to move. I haven\'t tried a bib since PMMA though, but I have used my vacADS as a hanger here and there and I\'ve had zero issues with PMMA interfering with anything.
23 Mar 2017 21:54
holly crap. Centurion! i remember you too. haha what a small penis world we live in. lol. I know i had alot of haters over at pegym cant remember exactly but i think you were always cool to me.

Yea i\'m thinking about just not getting my lig cut now... I know if i hang a bit more i can get to 7.5\" and i\'m happy there.. I really wanted 8\"

Mustang... I read your whole story about 5 days ago. AMAZING bro. really amazing. Your an awesome dude. I have no idea if you can hang with a bib once a person has had PMMA done.. thats one thing i\'m really trying to figure out. The bib squeezes the dick pretty fucking hard so it might move some pmma around. NOT SURE. The trick to hanging mustange is for the first 3 -4 months hang btc (between the cheeks) with lots of lotion and heat to stretch the skin. There is alot of pain in this process but i\'m sure we all have iron wills here.. then you can start stretching the ligs.


23 Mar 2017 20:06
well i\'d say more like .5\" loss.. I\'m a lagit 7.25 bpel now... But i do hang a little every week to keep things limber. Plus its great for my EQ.. so If i didnt do a little maintenance hanging i suppose I would only be 7\'\'..

Its easy for me to just hang every morning while i cook breakfast. It takes me like 5 minutes to warm my dick up and wrap and put the bib on.. then I hang for like 25 to 30 min while I cook.. I know your only supposed to do 20 min with the bib but my dick is pretty well conditioned. My skin is already stretched so its no big pain there.


I\'m on here because i\'m trying to figure out if i want to get my lig cut.. hang for a year to get back to 7.75\" bpel then go get pmma... If you guys can lead me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.
23 Mar 2017 02:10
Hey Bolkonsky - second on not getting your ligs cut. I had mine done 20 years ago. Nothing bad happened to me but I didn\'t gain anything until I hung every day for a year and a half and got 1.25\" permanent gains. I assume if it had anything to do with the lig. cut it would not have taken a year and a half of at least 8 hours a day of hanging - I used the Grip. I used to be a member of Thunderspalce when Bib was really getting popular. I am sort of amazed that it has so much staying power - it must actually work. Lig cut is a big waste of money and you are opening yourself up to all sorts of issues. I have never heard of guys getting more than 1.25 - 1.5 inches hanging but there may be a few out there. I would just keep on doing what you are doing as you are already in the minority. I would just try changing up your routine - sort of like the gym, or get a second piece of equipment. If I recall the Bib just hangs straight down? You may want to try something that hits a different angle but skip the surgery. I was also a member of PEGym years ago and I think I do remember you, lol.

*Sorry Chester I just realized this was in your progress report.
22 Mar 2017 22:42

Bolkonsky wrote: Hi everyone. I\'m new here but i feel like I have some valuable input. i used to be a member at PEGYM. My name was bolkonsky if anyone remembers me there.

I\'ve been manuel PEing for about 5 -6 years now. I started at about 6\'\' el and after a lot of hanging with the bib i got to 7.5\'\' And then after not hanging at all just stretching every now and then I\'m at 7\'\'.

FYI I dont see anything wrong with heavy weights.. I hang now probably 3 or 5 times a week just to keep things loose and limber and i hang with 20lbs no prob.

I really want to get back to 7.5\'\' or even 8\'\' so i\'m really looking into getting my lig cut and hang for a month and use an ads.

Do you guys think that getting my lig cut would prove worth it considering all the hanging i\'ve already done?


I\'d say do not get a lig cut. You have done well without surgery, why add risk and cost?
Lig cut has NEVER proven to add any Erect length, as a matter of fact can take away EL.
It\'s time with proper hanging that adds length, and even then, its the minority who can add anything above 0.25-0.5\"

I plan to star hanging soon, so what\'s the best hanger out there? LG? where is the best place to get it?
22 Mar 2017 19:31
well i\'m no longer 7.5\" because i dont have the time to hang all the time. I\'m like 7.25 at 100% eq and just 7\'\' at a good 90% Plus i switched to focus on my girth. I started pumping, using the vacutech (amazing btw) and I think when you focus on gaining girth manually you just always loose length. If you dont believe that just go do some erect ULI\'s and then go remeasure your dick.

If your wondering if my claims are credible i understand. When i first started out with PE i didnt know i was going to embark on a life long journey to get a big dick. lol so i didnt think to even take a pic. It took years. I hung alot.. A lot. for like a year i spend at least 2 hours a day hanging. I got into fulcrum hanging which i think where you can really fuck your dick up or make some good hanging gains... Bib is the godfather so if you want to know more look him up on his recommendations. or even email him.. he is a super nice guy and helpful.

I\'m here on this site because i want to get PMMA and i need to really learn about it... There seems to be some awesome people here to learn from.

I have no idea if i can use my bib post PMMA or if i\'ll have to switch to the LG, which i know doesnt let you hang as heavy as i am used to.. not sure what to do exactly yet. but i\'m trying to figure it out.


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