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hanging with the bib has really worked well for me.. It takes a bit of patience but once you get the \'hang of it\' it can really improve EQ and length.

like for the first 3 months tho you need to hang btc and stretch out the skin.. It hurts like hell but eventually your skin stretches and your pulling on the ligs.

Hi everyone. I\'m new here but i feel like I have some valuable input. i used to be a member at PEGYM. My name was bolkonsky if anyone remembers me there.

I\'ve been manuel PEing for about 5 -6 years now. I started at about 6\'\' el and after a lot of hanging with the bib i got to 7.5\'\' And then after not hanging at all just stretching every now and then I\'m at 7\'\'.

FYI I dont see anything wrong with heavy weights.. I hang now probably 3 or 5 times a week just to keep things loose and limber and i hang with 20lbs no prob.

I really want to get back to 7.5\'\' or even 8\'\' so i\'m really looking into getting my lig cut and hang for a month and use an ads.

Do you guys think that getting my lig cut would prove worth it considering all the hanging i\'ve already done?

Swapzor wrote: Yea I\'ve heard thats a problem with the bib-hanger, I havent had much slipping issues with LG, some at start but learned to handle it. Ph can be worn during night, but its not really that comfortable. But if you got much money go buy and try it out, but its expensive for the level of quality it has.

I really just want something that works at this point. Lol

Yea I\'ve heard thats a problem with the bib-hanger, I havent had much slipping issues with LG, some at start but learned to handle it. Ph can be worn during night, but its not really that comfortable. But if you got much money go buy and try it out, but its expensive for the level of quality it has.

Swapzor wrote: For length, hanging combined with some manual stretches. Currently im suffering from a slow healed PE injury so I havent had time to do a lot but im convinced its the best way to gain length. With that being said, I do have 2 hours a day (which is prob takes if you include warm-ups putting it on etc) to train. If you got a really busy life maybe thats not an option tho. I use LG hanger

I brought a bib hanger and tried it for months but it kept slipping off. I tried everything to keep it attached - brought all kinds of materials - but my glans just kept slipping through. So I gave up.

Phallosan appealed as I can just pop it on at night and sleep. But I have not seen testimonials outside of the website that confirm it works. Hence I posted.

I have no reasons to cheat on you. I posted many pics that show the reallity of manual PE if yo overdo, like a I did with clamping twice a day (45 minutes each) with no rest, or hanging too much time a day with high weights. But if you do things being smart, common people will get SOME gains. And there are people who will gain nothing but injuries, sorry for you guys.

As I said, there are tons of shit at Thunder\'s Places and PEGym (even more LPSG), but there are also some good information.

Of course, saying the penis is like a muscle is an old fashioned think and is nonsense. But if you apply enough stress (just enough, that is the hard part of this, not to less but not too much) to your body for enough time, some form of change will occur, it will take weeks, months, years, decades, who knows.

Maybe it is a good deal for me because I was born with 7x6, so 1\"x0.5\" gains worths for me. I can understand that for a guy who is 5.5\"x4.5\" would not worth it the time and years you will need to get some of gains gradually.

That being said, I am here againg for some reason, and is because I want to see how PMMA evolves, and hope for upcoming effective methods of penis growth. I hope medical scientits are doing their job.

Again, manual PE will work for some, and will not for others, and do not expect massive gains like DLD or BIB liars said.

You mean none gained that kind of length with PE or just Dr Ric didnt? I\'ve gained about an inch in length and see no reason why I cant gain a couple more. If you ask Dr Ric about his gains you\'ll see that he dont even claim to have gained most of them with his \"own\" product but with the Bib-hanger.
I do believe him but have no proof of his gain. Regardless he has like 20-30 years of PE is experience and I think he is qualified to answer this question.

Toolman wrote: SSorow- I understand your frustration entirely. I did PE for four years, trying EVERYTHING available. Every regimen, every approach, every devise. Spending in fact $3k or more on devises, weights, hangers, etc. I would try them consistently for 4-6 months, but no results or gains. Got up to a consistent 15 lbs with the Bib hanger for 5 months until I had to move and it wasn\'t possible to continue the two hours a day...

All with very little gain, maybe 3/8\".

So, what I\'ve determined is that my ligs are very strong, and perhaps short from the bone to the internal penis.

So, I\'ve reached out to Dr. Ress in Boca Raton FL who is inventing a new breakthrough process that is designed to increase flaccid AND erect length. His first six trial patients (infusing human tissue between internal penis and bone) have been successful for flaccid gains, but not erect gains (as typical with lig cut procedures). So, his next set of trials are focusing on using a synthetic bone material for the in between inter penis and bone. He thinks this will be successful in length gains both flaccid and erect.

If I had to do over, I\'d gotten PMMA earlier, then wait for Dr. Ress\'s procedure to be successful, then have another round of PMMA to fill in the new length areas. Then have HA (Voluma) to increase the glans size.

I was one of those patients. He\'s gone into much more detail with you than me. I don\'t recall him ever admitting to inserting cadaver tissue as a spacer. I knew he was having new trials soon and before said those of us who went through the first procedure would be welcomed back for the 2nd.

Idk if there is a serious time frame for the second procedure as of yet.

SSorow- I understand your frustration entirely. I did PE for four years, trying EVERYTHING available. Every regimen, every approach, every devise. Spending in fact $3k or more on devises, weights, hangers, etc. I would try them consistently for 4-6 months, but no results or gains. Got up to a consistent 15 lbs with the Bib hanger for 5 months until I had to move and it wasn\'t possible to continue the two hours a day...

All with very little gain, maybe 3/8\".

So, what I\'ve determined is that my ligs are very strong, and perhaps short from the bone to the internal penis.

So, I\'ve reached out to Dr. Ress in Boca Raton FL who is inventing a new breakthrough process that is designed to increase flaccid AND erect length. His first six trial patients (infusing human tissue between internal penis and bone) have been successful for flaccid gains, but not erect gains (as typical with lig cut procedures). So, his next set of trials are focusing on using a synthetic bone material for the in between inter penis and bone. He thinks this will be successful in length gains both flaccid and erect.

If I had to do over, I\'d gotten PMMA earlier, then wait for Dr. Ress\'s procedure to be successful, then have another round of PMMA to fill in the new length areas. Then have HA (Voluma) to increase the glans size.

New1inch wrote: Good to be back here, it\'s been a while.. Some of you guys are acting as if he\'s trying to surgically enhance your dicks. It\'s his prerogative if he\'s not showing measurements. Maybe he didn\'t think to measure before. I\'ve had my own PE journey and I\'ll tell you it\'s a pain in the ass to be constantly holding a ruler trying to measure with a camera and stay hard at the same time. Obviously hanging works, it\'s been proven time and time again. If he\'s not enough proof go to Pegym or thunders if you need proof. What he\'s selling is similar to the bib product. Bib has used his own product and has got results as well as the 100\'s of other guys that used the Bib hanger. So if they all got results with the BIB hanger and it\'s built similar to his hanger common sense would tell you that his product got him similar results as well. I swear some of you seem to have to much time on your hands to sit around and nitpick.. And it\'s mainly the \"noobs\" that I\'m seeing that\'s doing this. He\'s not pushing surgery, it\'s manual PE. Relax.

Yes, I have the time while I am hanging, multitask.

Is not about if hanging works or not, I know it and I do it. It is the claims what makes me upset. If you claim 2\" gains, man, you must prove it. Also BIB did it, 3\" gains, and no one pic of his dick gains.

3\". I believe in hanging, but I am not stupid.

Good to be back here, it\'s been a while.. Some of you guys are acting as if he\'s trying to surgically enhance your dicks. It\'s his prerogative if he\'s not showing measurements. Maybe he didn\'t think to measure before. I\'ve had my own PE journey and I\'ll tell you it\'s a pain in the ass to be constantly holding a ruler trying to measure with a camera and stay hard at the same time. Obviously hanging works, it\'s been proven time and time again. If he\'s not enough proof go to Pegym or thunders if you need proof. What he\'s selling is similar to the bib product. Bib has used his own product and has got results as well as the 100\'s of other guys that used the Bib hanger. So if they all got results with the BIB hanger and it\'s built similar to his hanger common sense would tell you that his product got him similar results as well. I swear some of you seem to have to much time on your hands to sit around and nitpick.. And it\'s mainly the \"noobs\" that I\'m seeing that\'s doing this. He\'s not pushing surgery, it\'s manual PE. Relax.

Penis Lengthening Surgery Journal and Progress Report
BackgroundHave been practicing PE 'on and off ' for 6 years. I have utilized a penis extender with good temporary results, manual exercises/beginners routines etc, penis pumping consistently for 6 years and hanging with both a Bib and Vacuum and an ESL40 ADS. Having tried most techniques for PE I was able to gain about .5' permanent flaccid and .25 inch erect. The one variable is my flaccid, which will increase when actively stretching or hanging by about another .25 inches to 4.5\" but will retract when not hanging or stretching back to 4.0-4.25\". MeasurementsBeginning FL 3.5'FGMS 4.5'FGBS 5.0'NBPEL 6'BPEL 6.75'MSEG 5.5'BSEG 6.0'Ending PEFL 4.0-4.25'NBPEL 6.25'BPEL 7.1'MSEG 5.5'BSEG 6.0'Current Post OpFL 4.5' I feel I have made decent gains considering there are many men on this forum who gain nothing. I have accepted that gains for me also come in very small increments and slowly. All factors considered, I made a personal decision to have my ligs cut. My main focus from the beginning of starting PE was to increase my flaccid length. It has been something that has bothered me since adolescence. I have a muscular build and large thighs which have always given the illusion of a smaller penis even though my flaccid measurements are average to above average. I have pumped for 6 years and this would generally increase my flaccid hang to 5.0 girth by 4.5 in length, which made me feel very confident in shower/gym or social nude situations (my wife and I are naturists). It just becomes rather inconvenient to pump everyday or in situations where privacy is limited. This also contributed to my decision for a procedure which could provide more long term length and most importantly 'confidence'!! In my personal experience when I would refrain from PE I could lose as much as .5 inches in flaccid gains, sometimes retracting to 3.9'. This became very discouraging and especially while palpating I could locate the fact that I had very prominent and thick suspensory ligaments which ran medially but mainly laterally on the base of shaft. I finally became convinced I wanted to remove what I thought was the problem and see if it worked. My research with members and Dr. Rosenthal, noted very small side effects if any from the modern technique of this surgery (1\" horizontal incision), so I had the resources and the will and decided to finally have it done. I am blessed with a very supportive wife and she was very supportive in my decision. The procedureEverything is very well orchestrated and I was taken to a pre-op room greeted by a nurse and given instructions on recovery. Shortly there after the Anesthesiologist came in and introduced himself. He is extremely well regarded and is very personable and gives you a good feeling that you are in very competent hands. Lastly Dr. Rosenthal came in, did a quick pre op exam, goes over the game plan and that\'s it. Wheeled me into the surgery room, blood was pumping! Felt my head get a little tingly, said 'whoa'. Woke up 3 hours later in recovery. The anesthesiologist also had the courtesy to come out to the waiting area and let my wife know that everything went flawlessly. Only trouble I had was a little nausea from the anesthesia, which they quickly remedied with some IV meds. Day 1I spent the good part of the day relaxing in the hotel room trying to stay comfortable while taking Vicodin to help with the pain. My incision was greater than the expected 1', mine was more like 2' but this is particular to every persons flaccid girth/anatomy. My penis is on the thick side so the ligaments are therefore at wider points. The stitches were done very cleanly with only 1 high point, I anticipate it will heal very well. Pain was tolerable and honestly I took the Vicodin as a precautionary measure once the nerve block in my penis wore off. A drain was placed above the incision to help control the fluid and swelling, this was the biggest source of discomfort or any pain. I found it very difficult to move or sleep with this drain in. That night I also had uncontrollable erections that were very firm. So any talk that this surgery would ruin my erection all together or make it weaker was not true for me after the first night. These erections were painful though and they prevented me from sleeping most of the night. First night I slept approximately 2 hours because of the drain, erections, and I am a stomach sleeper which is impossible post op. Day 2Swelling was very prevalent day 2 and had terrible itching in my scrotum due to swelling. Drainage was manageable and incision was healthy. The pain was very manageable and I elected to only take Advil. A follow up appointment was scheduled that morning with the Dr. and he examined everything and removed the drain (which hurt like a bitch). Instructions were given for dressing changes, hanging and general post op care. Those wondering, The Grip and the LG Hanger were suggested. The rest of the day once again stayed off my feet, rested and remained hydrated. Pain was very manageable and relatively non existent after the drain was removed. Due to swelling and dressing it was hard to tell but my wife confirmed it looked approximately .5' longer, which is what I had estimated as well. This was not very important as many men actually can retract after surgery so any gain at this point was a good sign. Dr. Rosenthal even mentioned after the procedure that you may not notice any gain until you begin hanging. In my case my penis definitely now hung about 1' below my testicles, previously it was about .25 to .50' beyond them. Hard to get a good measurement right now due to pelvic swelling but it appears to be 4.5' flaccid. Rough night sleeping again due to having to sleep flat on my back. Further updates will come at more import points in the healing process, including erect gains which I am not concerned about but I am sure members are interested in. But I mainly thought that this information could be useful for men who were curious about details surrounding the immediate procedure. It\'s also suggested to refrain from heavy lifting and exercise, masturbating and sex for 1 month and also to take 1 week off from work. Hanging allowed to begin at 3-4 weeks post op, depending on ones incision health and pain level.The surprising thing about this surgery is that there is no protocol given to you by the surgeon regarding post op rehab/hanging, only wound care. The hanging program is mainly left up to the individual. It would be my highest suggestion to anyone who is considering having this procedure done, to be very familiar with hanging and general PE. An uneducated injury or improper usage of equipment could yield poor results due to this procedure relying heavily on post op hanging!

Attached pictures: First is 1 hour pre-op. Last 2 are same day post-op.
More to come..Regards!LL

Penis-Hanger wrote: stop trolling and thank you for noticing my gains.
And yes my whole Penis changed after 4 years of hanging, \"only hanging\" what should be more effective as hanging every day 15 pounds for 2 hours on your dick?

By the way Im the only one who is showing his penis who is selling his hanger but thats not what it is here about...I just want to share with you my way to a huge dick, so please shut up with that shit.

After cancelling the makrolane appointment I have to decide if I should maybe choose PMMA instead of makrolane at Dr.N but she doesnt reply

No, you stop trolling. I am veteran of PE. I saw a lot of PE dicks. I am from Thunders, PEGym and Bib forums. I never saw a dick \"transformation\" like that. Even less with clamped hanger system, which has nothing to do in the glans. I saw Dr. Ric and Marlon (owners of the LG hanger). They hang for more than 5-10 years, and no glans transformation like that, and I am talking about a vacuum based system, which makes more sense...

Even King Snake, another veteran of hanging, has the same glans shape after years.

Do not joke on me, man.

You can sell a hang device, because hanging works, but stop that before/after shit, because those are not legitimal pics to show gains.

thehulk wrote:
I bought the clamps, im gonna try to clamp agressively for a few months and see where it gets me.

Im gonna look for a bib hanger too.

Do not do it, not agressively. That\'s my advise.

Good luck

Toolman wrote: Really, who has the time to hang for that much time every day? I certainly don\'t, nor want too. I tried it for five months (up to 15 lbs), then gave up because I had to move.

I bought the clamps, im gonna try to clamp agressively for a few months and see where it gets me.

Im gonna look for a bib hanger too.