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Jep you guys can also buy the hardcore hanger of BIB but mine isnt the same. Its a little bit higher, especially the top bolt.
Because when I went up in weight I gut always stitching on the skin from the upper bolt, so I did a redesign of that hanger.

I didnt hang 35 everyday for 40 minutes but sometimes I did 25pounds for 1,5 hours with swinging and pushing on the ligamentum to get it loose.
The glans also isnt the part that I was \"attacking\" its the ligamentum, however it got a little bit bigger due to the attachment point going downwards and pressures the blood a little bit in the glans.

I have to look what kind of picture I have.

Often I was smiling during work in the office and my working mates asked me why I smile....I thought of hanging and watching my blog .
But there were also times where you ask yourself \"why Im doing this\" when you are tired and completely out of motivation....I mean this is really hard, to hold up the motivation for this stuff.
For me it was always my gf which had a big smile in her face when she sit down on the big boy.

This hanger just looks exactly like a bib-hanger, bolts and all, so if you guys are interested in it in the US just order one of those.

Impressive pics, however its annoying that they are of such different perspectives and without in picture measurements. Repetition of pose at least is pretty key for good photos, using the head of your penis as a constant in both images the size difference isn\'t so apparent, but the after photos do look like a nice penis.

Up to 35lbs? Thats a wholeeee lot of weight, and for 40mins a day? Maybe you\'ve found out the high performing secret, but I was already feeling uncomfortable at like 8lbs at a beginning hanging routine.

smalljay wrote: Hey Poy.

I usually get kind of upset and tend to shy guys away from PMMA at your size (pretty much the perfect size that all women quote). You do risk taking yourself from \'ideal\' to painful for many, many women. At the same time, I understand and I also highly respect your dedication to PE and all the information you\'ve posted about it here. I\'ve been chasing length for about a year and am only just now getting knowledgable enough to know what works best for my body and what might yield some real gains.

I suggest the following:
'NO 30%. Forget about it. It\'s too risky to make your dick look lumpy and like shit in places. Stick to a big round of 10% and for that, you\'ll need to go with Casavantes. Dr. N will only inject small amounts, and even small amounts of 30% is risky. Go with a big (24cc + ) round of 10% with Dr. C
' ONLY do Metacrill. Unfortunately, to get Metacrill at Dr. C\'s office, you\'ll have to wait a little bit. He only uses LinneaSafe right now because he\'s having a temporary issue with the (one) distributor of Metacrill in all of Mexico. I feel this problem will be resolved soon though so you wont have to wait long. We have too many bad reports of Linnea Safe.


I\'d like to ask you more about your length gains. Can you describe what you did to get them? Was it all upward angle extending - is that the only thing that worked for you?Also, if you stopped all length PE right now and never did it again, do you think you would lose all of your .25\" - .5\" BP length that you gained, or would some of it stay? I\'m curious whether you think PE can actually ever be fully \'quit\', or if length exercises (extending) must be continued forever.

Hi, Smalljay. Thank you for your thoughts. I spoke this with my gf and she says I am way bigger, but she does think that she can \"tolerate\" a little more if we go slow.

I saw on here some good results with Dr. N with 30%. She is in my country and that is a lot of money saving for me, A LOT.

I think I can reach my 1\" gain with 35ccs 30%.

Regarding to lenght questions...

I did extending for about 6 months or more, 10-15hours a day. I did that upward angle all the time, as I think tunica stretching will give you more permanent results. That is what I thought, nowadays I cannot guarantee that TP theory. I also think the LOT theory is bullshit. What I got from that stage was rock hard erections, maybe due to the tunica stretching, and some gains, I cannot tell you how much exactly.

Stretching is a good method in my opinion, if you have the time (5 hours or more per day). You have to take care with blisters if you use vacuum based stretchers, which I recommend. The nose system is full of crap and bad for your glans.

I also did hanging for a period, downward angles, between the cheeks, etc.

When you go heavy (10lbs+) you must take extra care.

For me, it ended up with bad EQ and blisters, and some urethra pain. I used the LG hanger, the best vacuum hanger in my opinion.

In conclusion, hanging is not a good deal if you want healthy penis. Others (like BIB) said that they had the best erections with hanging, plus 2\" gains, I do not believe them. You can get gains with hanging, but it is risky.

These days, knowing what I know (from the real experience and not for what one can read there) I only recommend stretching and some light jequing/clamping. You can get some minor gains with stretching over months, and some with jelquing and clamping, and improved erections if you are smart and do not overdo it.

Regarding to your last question... If I am honest, I do not know. I think the body is lazy and tends to go to our original homeostasis, but I cannot guarantee that with length gains. And I do not want to know that, I always do some type of PE. Some day I clamp a little, some day I do jelq, extending for a few hours...

You can get some serious gains with extreme PE, as I did, but you will have full of negatives, I do not lie, I posted pics.

You recommend me to not to go for the PMMA... I do not recommend to anybody to go this way.

PD: sorry for my bad English, hope you can understand what I posted, and if not, tell me and I will do it again.

Kind regards,
Poya

Poyajierro wrote:
Thank You so much for your opinion.

Well, as I said, I do not do this for self confidence (well maybe a little) or to satisfy girls. I know what I have is big. I want to do this for me, to satisfy myself, I want that. I know many of you are not agree with me and think I am a fucking stupid idiot. I beg for mercy, be good guys with me, please. I really like this forum, there are honest and true people here, and that is great!

As I said before, I am a veteran when it comes to manual PE, I am a member of main forums like Thunder\'s Place, PEGym or BIB forums. I know everything about manuals, I tried everything.

The LOT theory is just a theory. I do not believe in it, I spent some time with hanging, doing things the right way, and had zero gains, but urethra problems. Once you take heavy weights, you have to be careful. However, when I tried extending, for months a lot of hours a day I made some gains and that was using upwards angles (tunica work). That is the reason why I am going to use traction againg. I am not saying hanging does not work, no, I am saying that hanging is a very risky art and if you want gains you need to go heavy, and I do not want that, is not healthy for my glans (I used the LG hanger, a pretty vacuum based hanger) and my urethra.

Also, I do not believe guys out there who claim 2\" or some even 3\" gains, even less because they never post pics, never. The same for the girth, people who claim 1\"-2\" girth gains, you kiddin\' me? I live in Earth, not in Alicias porn world. That is why I like this forum, I can see real pics, real claims, honest people (not everyone) and the good and the bad sides of procedures like PMMA.

I am not interested in any lenght, just maintain my stats and if I can scratch some light gain through the years with extending, great, but nothing over 7\"- 8\" would make a difference.

Considering my length, and that I have a good glans, I think 7\"- 7.25\" girth would be awesome on my dick. I think I can reach that without problem with Dr. C in two full rounds.

I live in Ceuta, Spain, in the north of Africa, so I will let him know that I do not go to him from this remote country just for a little enhancement.

Thank all of you for your time, feel free to write here.

Test....

jlmb wrote: Yeah I meant for length in general, but also once you\'re getting over 6in. I don\'t think there\'s going to be a real difference in partner sensation once you go to far over it, a blind taste test a 6.0 and a 6.5 is gonna feel just as good, and someone who has trouble with the size is have it either either.

Anyways your dick looks great, definitely already has a big size look and heft and at those stats it backs it up. Looks a lot mine actually, if I were to have a big gland to match my post Pmma girth. You got a strong upward erectile curve which suggests with LOT you\'d have great potential for hanging gains, but at the same time your exit point is very low so perhaps not, I don\'t remember the idea on that completely.

I\'d still recommend going conservative at first and building up if you\'re really going for that much increase, I think I could have used more time between my R2 and R3 to get used to the increase and maybe I wouldn\'t have kept going. With your larger head I think you can carry some good increase and still look good. Goodluck

Thank You so much for your opinion.

Well, as I said, I do not do this for self confidence (well maybe a little) or to satisfy girls. I know what I have is big. I want to do this for me, to satisfy myself, I want that. I know many of you are not agree with me and think I am a fucking stupid idiot. I beg for mercy, be good guys with me, please. I really like this forum, there are honest and true people here, and that is great!

As I said before, I am a veteran when it comes to manual PE, I am a member of main forums like Thunder\'s Place, PEGym or BIB forums. I know everything about manuals, I tried everything.

The LOT theory is just a theory. I do not believe in it, I spent some time with hanging, doing things the right way, and had zero gains, but urethra problems. Once you take heavy weights, you have to be careful. However, when I tried extending, for months a lot of hours a day I made some gains and that was using upwards angles (tunica work). That is the reason why I am going to use traction againg. I am not saying hanging does not work, no, I am saying that hanging is a very risky art and if you want gains you need to go heavy, and I do not want that, is not healthy for my glans (I used the LG hanger, a pretty vacuum based hanger) and my urethra.

Also, I do not believe guys out there who claim 2\" or some even 3\" gains, even less because they never post pics, never. The same for the girth, people who claim 1\"-2\" girth gains, you kiddin\' me? I live in Earth, not in Alicias porn world. That is why I like this forum, I can see real pics, real claims, honest people (not everyone) and the good and the bad sides of procedures like PMMA.

I am not interested in any lenght, just maintain my stats and if I can scratch some light gain through the years with extending, great, but nothing over 7\"- 8\" would make a difference.

Considering my length, and that I have a good glans, I think 7\"- 7.25\" girth would be awesome on my dick. I think I can reach that without problem with Dr. C in two full rounds.

I live in Ceuta, Spain, in the north of Africa, so I will let him know that I do not go to him from this remote country just for a little enhancement.

Thank all of you for your time, feel free to write here.

Well maybe some of you who don\'t believe he had surgery for lig cut you some do some research on thundersplace forum and read about the gains of some of the members over there from hanging,stretching,lig cut etc. As a matter of fact read about the guy named bib

Great work Miracle! Look forward to that X series advice. What are you using to hang with? Grip, bib?

jimmy_the-Blade, thanks for the kind words. I\'ve thought about the blow job issue and too much girth, but I think I\'ll still be OK for getting bjs from the wife if I hit 6.5 inches in Erect Girth especially since I\'ve seen her mess with a dildo with that exact girth.

CPW, thanks as well for the encouragement going into Round 2. Also, I do have experience using a traction device, so let me unload a little on this subject.

I used the Adropenis (a traction device very similar to the X4 Labs) everyday for just about 6 months. I kept this detailed log and everything, and I hit a wall at one point where I couldn\'t add any more of the rods. I, too, had a \"backlash\" after a one day rest period where I lost the ability to stretch out as I did just two days earlier. I learned that traction devices are not very encouraging methods of PE. However, I don\'t discount them entirely. I feel as though they will work, but the commitment has to be well over a 6 month period.

After the traction device, I moved on to a homemade hanger that could support up to 20 lbs of weight. It was using this device that I know I gained at least 1/8th of an inch in about 2 months. HOWEVER, there is a very REAL risk of damaging your erection quality when you hang weights from your penis. So you have to proceed very slowly in adding weights very incrementally only AFTER your penis has gotten use to a certain weight.

Look into the Bib hanger or Malehanger devices. The dude that makes the Malehanger essentially ripped off Bib and copied his mold but sells his product for much cheaper. The Bib Hanger is the original of its kind and is a fairly good device for hanging. Like I said, of all lengthening regimens out there, I believe hanging will yield the highest results BUT it also presents the highest risk of injury, so proceed with caution.

First off I never thought I would be here, I am 35, and even though I did have experiences in the past that would have maybe enlightened me it was not until recently that have I been.Call it ignorance, wishful thinking or youth but I never got it

I do have to thank most the women in my life as they have never made me feel inadequate and bless their sweet hearts for this.So let it be clear that I am not upset or mad at women, as the majority of them have been mighty sweet as to not hurt my feelings.

These are just the things I have been thinking about lately and remembering since I realized I am small and to be perfectly honest I do look at it as a disability of sorts.I will try to be coherent as possible and this is not to put down someone in the same boat as me as I do not want to hurt anyones feelings as I know how that does feel.I have been obsessed lately with this, hence me being here, and just here to share my story.

I would also like to state I am 6\'2 pretty good looking with a nice personality.Getting girls has not been a problem at all.

Now that I think about it even my first girlfriend and I was hers also would never get off on my penis.I got pretty proficient at fingering, but my penis was never the main show.I was told by elders and friends that foreplay and other things were the way to a great lover and I adapted as I wasn\'t pleasing with my dong.Just remembered that.

Actually to go down the list will just make me and someone else here suicidal.I will try to keep it brief.

In my teens it must have been smaller because I got lots of disappointing looks from girls right before the deed.

In the military guys would make comments but usually didnt end well for them as I may be small but I have a big ego and I aint sweet

Workplace romance with the hottest girl in the office.We fought once publicly and a friend (not a friend) looked over the urinal and said \"thats why you\'re so mad\".I didn\'t think nothing of it as I wasn\'t mad, but he sure would be right today.Of course things became awkward as said friend told everybody I was small and we broke up.

Future different workplace romance never had a lot of respect for me even after living together and her professing love.

Spolier alert : Women even if they do not say it, will never respect you like a big dick man.No matter how much evidence points to the contrary, you will be judged fully by this one thing.No matter how much you provide and protect they will just think he\'s like that because he\'s small and compensating.Never knew this but am aware of it now.Its like if you got with a really ugly woman, you would always think you have something over her and you are the dominant one in that relationship.Like you are doing them a favor.

Another spoiler alert: Women will settle for you but fantasize and seek men with bigger dicks for affairs.Its not like before, women are truly equal now as in they can have a husband and a guy on the side like we did in the time before.We would have a wife to be home and take care of us and our kids and house, and then go fuck the hot pretty something on the side.
Now knowing this I will not be entering into any relationships.I am nobodies back up plan or meal ticket

Another romance: Probably \"the\" romance, love of my life.
Not for you to think I am some victim and angel here because I broke up with her because I was getting a lot of attention from \"prettier\" women and wanted to get that.So I cannot blame someone else for leaving me (story to come) for something sexually better.But when she was moving out the last thing she said to me was \"you have a small dick and you\'re an asshole\"

The story that brought me here:
Was seeing somebody I really liked and we dated and I was really falling for her.Due to certain things I called it off and moved on.We reconnected after about a year and decided to go steady again.I did notice she was texting the last person she was with after we broke up.I confronted her about it and after a big blow up she said quote \"I need good dick sometimes, he has a big dick\"
WOw! Now that hurt.Talk about being hurt.Man I tell you Im still surprised I didn\'t off myself.
After the pain and countless hours on the internet I am glad she said something.I needed to improve in this area if I can hence me lurking here for months.She regretted it I know as she knows we could never be together and somewhere in there she liked me I won\'t deny that but we kept messing around as I was weak and very attracted to her.We weren\'t exclusive anymore and I know she was seeing him again.How do you ask?

First off I did believe her when she told me he was big.I didn\'t doubt it but I also had no proof until that night.He must have just left because she was sweating.Not sweating so much as glowing.Radiating.I never seen her like that before.She said nothing and was happy to see me.We commenced to sex.Taking off her underwear I noticed her pussy.It wasn\'t split down the middle vertically.Her slit and pussy lips and all was split horizontally.He must have been real big because he stretched that pussy out horizontally!My dropped but I was also horny so we fucked except she was totally dry (never happened before) and so stretched out I could not feel a thing.She commenced to making pussy farting noises as I pumped due to the excess room in her pussy and when I removed my cock there was blood on it.Needless to say that was it for me, booty call and all.Like I said radiating.I know I have never made a girl look or feel like that.And now I now why she kept texting him.I really can\'t blame her.And when trying to make me feel better she would say it was too big it hurt.Which I knew was a lie because I could tell she was definitely not over him.But he cheated on her and she couldn\'t hold him down so she was settling for me.

And Yeah, like I said, I am surprised I didn\'t off myself

So here I am in search of a big dick.

I have done some manual PE and just ordered the bib starter today.Will definitely be doing PMMA despite the risk in the near future.

My measurements are 6EL and 5EG
I am going for 7.5 L and 6.75 G

Wish me luck and any info and such will be much appreciated.Will be hearing from me for sure

Thanks for reading

The results of R2 have been good, but not great. I have developed a thicker/dense bump at the base of the shaft that when squeezed it hurts somewhat. When I use a bib hanger, I have to go very slow in tightening, as the squeezing can be temporarily painful.... a burning sensation that I didn\'t have before PMMA, so I attribute it to the PMMA.

Ideally, I would have preferred a lengthening procedure first, then after a year to gain an inch, do the PMMA. But the lengthening procedure doesn\'t seem to have been developed yet.

I would do a search on here - there are all sorts of different reviews on extenders, BIB hangers, vac extenders etc. - there is also Thundersplace.org and PEGYM which covers hanging and stretching techniques and equipment.

My only experience is with the grip which a vacuum hanger - which a lot of people don\'t like so I would not recommend except for the fact that I think it is really good and don\'t have the issues with it a lot of people have with it.

I was not circumcised when I was born. I recall enjoying the sensitivity of a stream of water from one of those handheld shower heads I used for bathing, as young as 2nd grade. I had a girlfriend and we would hold hands at recess. I gave her a ring I found in Cracker Jacks. She lost it and wrote me a note. I still have it in my Bible.

I was raised in an abusive family. My mother was the disciplinarian.

That imprinted on me for the rest of my life. Maybe that\'s why I have a love/hate relationship with women. I love them, God designed their bodies perfectly, I love to have sex with them, then I treat them like shit. I\'ve had so many women in my life, and after the 4 F\'s (find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them), I would break their hearts.

I heard about penile enlargement back in 2000 and decided to try it.

I had the hanging ligament cut and an alloderm graft. It gave me a little more flaccid length and a somewhat slightly girthier erection, but I shrink all the time and my balls want to hide all day long. I don\'t have a package to speak of because everything is so flaccid, like a wet noodle, that it disappears.

Also, one chick was trying to figure out what she was feeling with her finger at the edge of the graft behind the glans. She was a nurse, but she didn\'t say anything and I didn\'t tell. One girl who I had been with before the surgery asked me if I did something done to it, because it looked different (bigger?). She didn\'t say how, and I denied anything. There\'s that VY scar at the front base though.

Girls never complained. I would even ask if I was too small and the standard answer was :\"you\'re just the perfect size\" whatever that means. I wanted to hear \"hell no, you\'re stretching the shit out of me and I love it\". Never did hear it.

So, I\'m watching \'Botched\" on TV and see this plastic guy who has implants all over his body, the doctor asks him about his big noticeable package, and is told to look online at his website, so I did too, and that\'s how I indirectly found PB, through a web search! I\'m glad I did, because now I know that I\'m not alone in this, whether real or perceived.

I\'m pretty short flaccid, so not sure how it would work for me, but I\'m about 5\" EL, ok, maybe 4.999\". Not sure about girth yet but I\'m going to buy one of those tailor paper rulers and measure soon. I\'m thinking that the 20% collagen shots may help me psychologically.

By the way, I would not recommend the ligament cut. My surgeon in Beverly Hills cut some nerves and now I\'m desenthesized and can cum only if I do it myself with a lot of pressure or go for a verrrry long time. Girls get tired and then lose interest. Nonetheless, if I had a mustang pecker, they would just hop on and enjoy it themselves, and I could just watch, no?

I still worry that I\'m not adequate enough for MILFS so I\'ve actually stopped having sex because I imagine their reactions to my soft member before it gets hard, if it can. I\'m having trouble with that too. I had to use Viagra for the last couple of chicks and it gives me a headache.

I know that some women I meet are interested because they always look down at my crotch, and when I was younger, I would pounce. Now I just have to walk away knowing that I could fuck the shit out of them if I had a bigger dick. Wait, that\'s not how we should think about ladies. It\'s all about treating with respect, kindness and caressing them. I\'m still searching for the one who may not want sex all the time, but just wants to be held. That is, until I get PMMA! Ha.

From what I\'ve read u want to you a vac hanger.not a bib hanger

Been using a Bib hanger and X4 extender off and on for a few years. I\'m a \"hard gainer\" so I get frustrated often. I just started preparing to go to Dr. C for my first round of PMMA in January/February. To prepare, I\'ve been hangin 5lbs straight down 20 min; then 10lbs over left leg 20 min; then over right leg 20 min; then wearing the extender as long as I can handle or until my glans begin getting cold. I usually jelq with Vaseline after I get out of the shower. I also take a collagen supplement. I\'m trying to condition my penis to increase my odds of a great PMMA outcome. I plan to continue taking the collagen supplement for a few months after round 1, and take Cialis for day and a half after procedure. I saw Big John started hanging and wearing X4 writhing a couple months of round 1 and thought I\'d do the same. Also, I asked Dr C\'s office if a passport book or passport card were acceptable and was told the card is fine. I plan to fly into SD, take shuttle to TJ, stay the night at the hotel the office recommended, PMMA the following day, then fly back home the next day after I have one final checkup. Thoughts on 3 days/2nights?

This will serve as my progress report thread specifically so to clear out the clutter from the experimental penile lengthening procedure I took part in.

smalljay wrote: Wow, must have slipped my mind that your appointment date was so close. Well, glad things seem okay so far. Thanks for the updates, really curious to see what the procedure could do for a guy who\'s been in the PE game for over a decade. 2003 - those were the old school days hah. The \'wall\' to gains seems to be a really prevalent idea - how much were you able to gain in all that time before you hit your wall?

I remember a member @ Thunders with a similar name. Is that you?

I added significant BPEL but I\'d contribute a portion of it to improved erection strength and a small portion to improved/altered measurement techniques. Manual PE seems to be great for overall penile health. My progress form 2003 to 2005 is available over at Thunders PE data site under the same name by with underscores. Cya_at_8

Over the years I\'ve:
Manual PE (Stretching/Jelqing)
Stretchers: Penimaster Pro/PHALLOSAN/ Home moded with Bib hanger head
Hangers: Bib

Longest continual PE was 1.5 years. Longest break was about 2.5 years.

Dr. Ress believes his procedure will not require long term hanging. Just enough to stop retraction (1/4 lb) which I have done manually and only when retraction starts.

Recovery has been a day to day affair but graphing it would show a steady uptick in all recovery indicators.