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It's because Ellanse is now being offered at the Brussels, Belgium Office.

If you wish to seek Ellanse or Ellanse top-offs, I recommend this Clinic as Dr. Horn has the most experience using this filler in the penis than anyone else I know of in Europe.

JackSnow wrote: Not very happy with the results to be honest i think my body has absorbed a lot of the filler. I had an additional 4ml added a few weeks ago to even it out and measuring today ive only gained about 0.2 flaccid girth and 0.3 erect girth after 19mls of filler over two sessions. A lot of money for an almost unnoticeable gain in size. Won't be getting it again but the UK don't have ellanse any more so unsure on what my next steps are going to be.

Why is Ellanse no longer offered in the UK? Is it banned there or that’s just an @Androfill decision?

Not very happy with the results to be honest i think my body has absorbed a lot of the filler. I had an additional 4ml added a few weeks ago to even it out and measuring today ive only gained about 0.2 flaccid girth and 0.3 erect girth after 19mls of filler over two sessions. A lot of money for an almost unnoticeable gain in size. Won't be getting it again but the UK don't have ellanse any more so unsure on what my next steps are going to be.

man that was November 2021 before i ever signed up here
And from what I've read here from others they're getting numbing shots and nerve blockers without the numbing cream, I'm the only person I've heard of getting the cream in advance.

Different filler but this dude went into pretty exhausting detail (the numbing process is going to be nearly identical regardless of the filler type)
phalloboards.info/forum/progress-reports...anse-at-avantis.html

That checks out with what other people are reporting from most reputable clinics. Honestly man the procedure itself is cake, the average dental visit would be way more uncomfortable. If you were to be nervous I'd be nervous about getting the aftercare right so you get a good aesthetic result.

How is it going? Any update?

itgoesthud wrote: I'm now 29 months past HA (volux) and it seems like some of the skin thickness it gave me is going to stick around indefinitely. There are 2 maybe pea sized nuggets left over but the rest is just thicker skin - curious if you think you're going to have the same. I have no intention of getting my HA dissolved, hopefully the PMMA people can work around it if it's still lingering, BUT...
I wonder if you're seeing the same, i.e. any indication you're getting what seems like it will be permanent skin thickening from your HA. I have not seen any doctors mention this, nor people here, and I suspect it's because nobody lets their stuff completely dissolve naturally without going in for a top up, AND, because doctors don't want to promise permanent gains from HA especially if they aren't certain how and why.

Not to get off topic but doesn’t HA induce some collagen production with each round? I realize it’s a very thin layer compared to pmma or Ellanse , but wouldn’t it stand to reason that if you have had multiple rounds of HA, the skin would be left permanently thicker by the collagen that was produced?

Dr_Tsay wrote: srogers

You are correct about the Renuva. Great for top offs or add ons after a fat transfer.
As for HA, I used to use primarily Juvderm Voluma XC in the past because it was one of the highest G prime fillers meaning the firmness and amount of lifting capacity (lifting the skin creating enhanced girth). Since Juvederm Volux came out in early 2023, Ive really enjoyed this more due the an even higher G prime. For example, in the face when Im using Voluma to create a strong jawline in a man, I would typically need 6-8 syringes of product. When Volux came out and is FDA approved for Jawline, I noticed I would need as many syringes for the same effect. So even though the product was more expensive, the patient didnt have to use as many overall to get the same effect in the jawline. Regarding GE procedures, there is also this phenomenon that a small amount of filler creates more "POP" compared to Voluma, although the volumes required to get to a larger size are still about the same overall. Another advantage is that the Volux is less "squishy" compared to other HA products Ive experienced (i.e. Versa, Juvederm Ultra, Restylane L, etc).

I have been patiently waiting on Ellanse to get their FDA approval in the United States. I have heard great things about its utlity in GE procedures anecdotally, but will hold off on using this until they get FDA approved here in the US.

Dr. Tsay

@Dr_Tsay any idea when Ellanse will be approved in the US?

srogers

You are correct about the Renuva. Great for top offs or add ons after a fat transfer.
As for HA, I used to use primarily Juvderm Voluma XC in the past because it was one of the highest G prime fillers meaning the firmness and amount of lifting capacity (lifting the skin creating enhanced girth). Since Juvederm Volux came out in early 2023, Ive really enjoyed this more due the an even higher G prime. For example, in the face when Im using Voluma to create a strong jawline in a man, I would typically need 6-8 syringes of product. When Volux came out and is FDA approved for Jawline, I noticed I would need as many syringes for the same effect. So even though the product was more expensive, the patient didnt have to use as many overall to get the same effect in the jawline. Regarding GE procedures, there is also this phenomenon that a small amount of filler creates more "POP" compared to Voluma, although the volumes required to get to a larger size are still about the same overall. Another advantage is that the Volux is less "squishy" compared to other HA products Ive experienced (i.e. Versa, Juvederm Ultra, Restylane L, etc).

I have been patiently waiting on Ellanse to get their FDA approval in the United States. I have heard great things about its utlity in GE procedures anecdotally, but will hold off on using this until they get FDA approved here in the US.

Dr. Tsay

ou812 wrote: I guess it may depend on the doctor you see but the Phalback owner wasn't recommending this for anyone with filler, for fear of causing migration. Maybe that is less of an issue with PMMA vs HA.

A lot of guys with PMMA pump, so I don't think it should be an issue, and they are probably being extra cautious since it is relatively new and any studies on its use with things like PMMA and Ellanse are likely non-existent. If this is remarkably effective for work, I'm willing to sign a waiver to see if they'll let me try, assuming I can find a tube that can tolerate my base girth lol.

Capo710 wrote: Hey guys I’m looking for recommendations for a good dr to gain some permanent girth in California. I’d love to go to Avanti but my partner can’t leave the country for a while so I’m looking at other options. Thank you

Contact Dr. Tsay (Orange County) , Dr. Luis Lee (Northern California), Dr. Victor Liu (Beverly Hills and Bay Area) , and Dr. Brandeis (Northern California, P-Long Protocol) to consider your options.

Avoid any Clinics that offer penile implants to augment your penis if you are NOT suffering from ED, as well as large volumes of silicone oil filler (i.e. not using micro-droplet technique consisting of volumes of 10 cc's/mL's or less), or really anyone not vetted by the PhalloBoards and/or its Community.

If it's your first-time, you may want to consider more temporary options, especially if you can't travel abroad; Hyaluronic Acid (HA) has a strong safety profile and is offered by the vast majority of (vetted & screened) PhalloBoards Sponsors. Many end up liking it and continue to pursue it, while others may prefer less lifetime maintenance and opt for Ellanse or PMMA. You won't know until you try.

Just be sure you have realistic goals in mind, sufficient funds to accommodate subsequent visits, and a sound state of mind and sound motivations moving forward.

Good luck.

Thank you for this.
I have HA, I got in January this year, can I add Ellanse if I set up and appointment at Avanti?

Ideally, HA should be absorbed or diluted before introducing any additional filler. However, if traces of HA are present in the tissues during the new implantation, Ellanse shouldn't cause an adverse reaction.
DrC @ Avanti Derma

If I have HA injected already, can I get Ellanse?

For example, in the same visit:
1. 50% HA.
2. 50% Linnea

Not mixed, Separate but in the same visit.
I’ve read people have had good results getting them both.
Against not mixed in the same syringes but yes in the same visit, the same procedure .

Hello @Sanchez ,
Are you asking if mixing HA with Linnea in the same treatment is all right, like mixing the products before the injection or injecting one after the other?
There is no medical justification for any of the above.
I'm curious... can you explain the rationale behind such an idea?
Best regards, DrC @ Avanti Derma.