TOPIC: LED Wand for collagen growth

Anyone try this? That’d be pretty sweet if it works to the point you get a couple cm of extra gain out of it.

www.sunlighten.com/shop/luminir/lumisport/

Hyperbol wrote: Anyone try this? That’d be pretty sweet if it works to the point you get a couple cm of extra gain out of it.

www.sunlighten.com/shop/luminir/lumisport/

I suppose if someone has a little extra to spend, and the performing physician doesn't object, I can't see any harm in trying... I mean some people already take collagen supplements post-op so this could be an interesting experiment. The difficulty is that it'll be hard to discern whether those extra cm's were your own body's success or the device. Worst case scenario it ends up being a placebo lol.

Just ordered it. Had Ellanse 3 weeks ago. I'll try it for a couple of months and see what happens.

Would it be red light or blue light? I notice penile skin fragile especially waxing so curios to know if this helps heal

Would this work on skin cracks / holes? My skin cracked because i grew too much last years.

I was taking LED when i had my surgery with dermal graft but It didnt work...

I knew it sounds too good to be true

What brand of led? How long were you using it for?

This is a brilliant idea. At our Sydney clinic we standardly use LED light therapy (Low level laser therapy) post all our Phalloplasty procedures. I am a big believer in this type of post operative care.

LED lights are super interesting. They were initially developed by NASA to help plants grow in space, but were then found to help chronic wounds heal at a more rapid pace. They are actively used in burns units at most tertiary centres to speed healing.

They have a complicated, not yet understood mechanism of action that likely involves augmenting metabolic processes within the mitochondria (powerhouse of human cells) to speed healing, increase pro-inflammatory cytokines and promote general rejuvenation.

It’s not a magic bullet, and is a slow grind requiring multiple sessions. The better wavelengths for post Phalloplasty in my opinion are in the red to near infrared range. Post Phalloplasty these wavelengths provide a deep enough penetration to be of value. Blue light is not effective in this area as it works only on the skins surface.

LED light sources vary significantly in their power. Ideally you would use a clinic grade LED light source. To give you an idea of the difference, the LumiNIir costs $100. A medical grade LED light source will set a clinic back between 10-20k, and a patient usually between $50-100 per session.

The home devices will still be worthwhile, you would just need far more sessions than a medical grade LED.

Kindest,

Josh

Thanks Dr. Josh. Sunlighten’s protocol recommends three sessions per week for most conditions but say dosage can be modified based on severity of concern. It seems their session intensity is based on time and their longest treatment session is 2 minutes 20 seconds. The wand beeps telling you the time is up.

You mentioned medical grade vs consumer lights. Do you think there would be any side effects or danger with the luminir whether it’s the far ir or red light it someone goes well beyond 3 sessions over two minutes per week? What is the most amount of time someone could have the light on their penis in a week and during one session?

Hi Hyperbol,

That’s very interesting.

In regards to our medical grade LED we perform 2 sessions per week for 20 minutes per session (40 minutes per week). It would be interesting to know how many kilojoules the Sunlighten delivers in 2 minutes. The studies I have read are all based on delivered energy rather than time. We deliver roughly 45kj per session.

Hard to tell the safety of Sunlighten without knowing their exact parameters. I can’t imagine a hand held device provides anywhere near the same level of intensity seen with a medical grade LED.

The use of LED light in the penis is experimental and I have based my use of them on consensus papers looking at LED for facial rejuvenation and wound healing. I see no reason it shouldn’t work the same for post enlargement and have had nothing but excellent feedback.

Hi Dr Josh

Does that mean Blue light would be able to heal skin ?

Blue light has minimal depth penetration. It’s predominant usage is to interfere with metabolic processes within p. Acnes bacteria for facial acne. I would consider it’s impact post enlargement fairly minimal.

DrJoshWall wrote: Blue light has minimal depth penetration. It’s predominant usage is to interfere with metabolic processes within p. Acnes bacteria for facial acne. I would consider it’s impact post enlargement fairly minimal.

May i ask what you would recommend for healing penis skin ? Ive got several skin cracks and holes from PE.

Hi Hivelpsg,

LED light should help speed any healing wound. In regards to specific recommendations for your case, if you haven’t already it would be best to consult with your treating doctor. There may be nuances in your medical history/treatment that require a tailored approach to your treatment.

A few general pieces of advice I could provide are: keeping physically fit, eating healthy, refraining from alcohol and smoking and getting adequate sleep. Treating any underlying infection, protecting the wounds from irritation with appropriate dressings and you may also find PRP helpful. These are all things you could discuss with your treating doctor.