TOPIC: Elongation corporoplasty with Dr Kurbatov

KV87 wrote: @MrDingDingDong can you feel the grafts? In some pictures of Kurbatov´s website you can see the grafts protruding from the penis, similar to the lumps with fillers.

Yes, absolutely, although they’re becoming less pronounced.

Here’s a Flaccid picture as requested. I included my hand in the frame for reference. There’s a lot of extra skin and hemosiderin staining.

So during surgery you were 19.5cm, after surgery you were 19.5cm and now you’re 21.5cm?

Vongolaxespada1 wrote: So during surgery you were 19.5cm, after surgery you were 19.5cm and now you’re 21.5cm?

During and immediately after surgery I was 19.5 cm, but this was followed by retraction due to the formation of scar tissue. I waited about one month before beginning pumping, and by that point my penis was significantly shorter than 19.5 cm. That’s why I used that number to gauge my recovery from retraction while pumping. Eventually, though, my in-pump measurement exceeded 19.5 cm.

Here’s an Erection pic (requested). This is about 80% my current max Erection (no Viagra). It looks shorter than it is due to the Girth, but it’s clearly nowhere near my current 8.6” in-pump maximum.

I think I could have penetrative sex as long as the girl isn’t too tight. Even if I just added one more Inch to my effective length and improved hardness, I’d be happy.

Huge, wait so what was your length before the surgery and what is it now I guess at 80%? Currently you can only get to 100% Erection with Viagra? But eventually you won't need any Viagra once you heal up completely?

That surgery looks very invasive and I'm not sure with all the PMMA in the way if that would be viable for anyone that already has PMMA.

I would kind of just do extending and hope for the best. Although they say it takes 1000 hours to gain 1 in. Did you gain 2 inches as a result of the surgery?

lurkin wrote: Huge, wait so what was your length before the surgery and what is it now I guess at 80%? Currently you can only get to 100% Erection with Viagra? But eventually you won't need any Viagra once you heal up completely?

That surgery looks very invasive and I'm not sure with all the PMMA in the way if that would be viable for anyone that already has PMMA.

I would kind of just do extending and hope for the best. Although they say it takes 1000 hours to gain 1 in. Did you gain 2 inches as a result of the surgery?

I mean that the photo showed about 80% of the maximum Erection that I can currently achieve, with or without Viagra (although I didn’t take any Viagra at the time I took the picture).

And PMMA may complicate the degloving step, but it’s not a deal breaker. If needed, accessory incisions can be made.

I remember a user mentioning they lost some PMMA during the Circumcision process, and another user I believe atxguy, who said all the PMMA (he had some PMMA & silicon oil which is bad) was bonded and very difficult to remove.

But yeah what was your measurements before the surgery and what is it now I guess either at 80% or 100% Erection just out of curiosity? Also did you gain any Girth as a result or what is your Girth now?

lurkin wrote: I remember a user mentioning they lost some PMMA during the Circumcision process, and another user I believe atxguy, who said all the PMMA (he had some PMMA & silicon oil which is bad) was bonded and very difficult to remove.

But yeah what was your measurements before the surgery and what is it now I guess either at 80% or 100% Erection just out of curiosity? Also did you gain any Girth as a result or what is your Girth now?

I always used Flaccid stretched length to measure progress, but I think I was doing it a little differently than the surgeon because our measurements didn’t quite agree. That’s why I use the intraoperative pictures for reference. You can clearly see an Inch increase in the length of the cavernosa. And no, no Girth was gained, at least not from the surgery. I may have gained some Girth subsequently due to pumping, but, by design, the surgery produces an increase in length only.

I’m happy you’re documenting this because this surgery is not talked about much but it seems like the doctor does it quite often but I wish you would document a bit better. You keep switching between centimeters and inches and then won’t talk about before measurements and after measurements in like a detailed chart or format.

Like before


BPEL
BPFL
BPFSL
EG

Immediately after

BPEL
BPFL
BPFSL
EG

3 months after

BPEL
BPFL
BPFSL
EG

Feel like that would be the best way to document this surgery and the process along with pics of Flaccid and Erect in those time frames

Vongolaxespada1 wrote: I’m happy you’re documenting this because this surgery is not talked about much but it seems like the doctor does it quite often but I wish you would document a bit better. You keep switching between centimeters and inches and then won’t talk about before measurements and after measurements in like a detailed chart or format.

Like before


BPEL
BPFL
BPFSL
EG

Immediately after

BPEL
BPFL
BPFSL
EG

3 months after

BPEL
BPFL
BPFSL
EG

Feel like that would be the best way to document this surgery and the process along with pics of Flaccid and Erect in those time frames

I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, I just don't have any good before pictures and measurements apart from those taken by the surgeon. And I didn't begin tracking my length after surgery until I could see the retraction beginning to resolve. Going through all that discomfort only to measure myself as shorter than my presurgical length, even if just temporarily, was not something I wanted to subject myself to. As for Girth, as I mentioned before, by design, this surgery has no effect on Girth. That said, I probably have made some Girth gains due to all the pumping, but it's very difficult to discern between actual gains and temporary edema unless you take a week or so off to allow the edema to fully dissipate. And seeing as I have nothing unique to contribute here (regarding Girth), I don't see any reason to do that.

Also, something I recently realized is that the number of sets and the diameter of the tube used can significantly impact the length measured. For instance, by the end of the 4th set in my 2.125" diameter tube I measure just under 22 cm. But by the end of my first set in my 2.25" diameter tube I measure about 20 cm. In my 2.125" tube my entire shaft touches the walls of the tube, whereas with my 2.25" tube, the distal 2/3 of my shaft isn't in contact with the walls (thus emphasizing the glans less). Since I noticed this, I began meticulously tracking everything to ensure that measurements are compared under the same conditions. I didn't realize the impact this had until I got my 2.25" tube in the mail.

Unfortunately, unless I get some filler to the glans, I suspect that my actual BPEL will be closer to the 20 cm than the 22 cm once the fibrosis or whatever it is that's impeding my EQ goes away. All that said, whatever conditions I measure under, I'm still making progress. It's just very slow.

I’m not sure if those files went through, but I was trying to show that Flaccid stretched length is nearly 9 inches. Clearly there’s a lot of edema, but I’m not including that in the measurement.

Any update brother? I want to see this procedure documented more. It seems like it’s somewhat popular and the doctor does it often. I wonder if more people on this forum or around the internet have done this and can document.

Vongolaxespada1 wrote: Any update brother? I want to see this procedure documented more. It seems like it’s somewhat popular and the doctor does it often. I wonder if more people on this forum or around the internet have done this and can document.

It isn't done often because it's Phalloplasty's version of mad science. It could in theory work, but I'm afraid of the kind of fibrosis one would deal with involving that much extreme surgical invasiveness, short or long term. This isn't to alarm the original poster, in fact it's quite brave of him and useful of him to post, because that's what this information exchange is about.

However, it would be irresponsible of me not to point out its conceivable dangers, and why something like Ligamentolysis (severing of the suspensory ligament) + a stretching regimen (like P-Long) might be more sensible & practical in the long run.

Trust me, if Elongation corporoplasty worked as intended, consistently & safely for most men, I'd endorse it -- but on paper alone it's just not a viable mainstream method. In fact, the only time I could see this being viable are for extreme cases (i.e. extraordinary interventions for extraordinary situations) --> much like micro-penis.

Skeptical_One wrote:

Vongolaxespada1 wrote: Any update brother? I want to see this procedure documented more. It seems like it’s somewhat popular and the doctor does it often. I wonder if more people on this forum or around the internet have done this and can document.

It isn't done often because it's Phalloplasty's version of mad science. It could in theory work, but I'm afraid of the kind of fibrosis one would deal with involving that much extreme surgical invasiveness, short or long term. This isn't to alarm the original poster, in fact it's quite brave of him and useful of him to post, because that's what this information exchange is about.

However, it would be irresponsible of me not to point out its conceivable dangers, and why something like Ligamentolysis (severing of the suspensory ligament) + a stretching regimen (like P-Long) might be more sensible & practical in the long run.

Trust me, if Elongation corporoplasty worked as intended, consistently & safely for most men, I'd endorse it -- but on paper alone it's just not a viable mainstream method. In fact, the only time I could see this being viable are for extreme cases (i.e. extraordinary interventions for extraordinary situations) --> much like micro-penis.

I tried a non-surgical approach for years and eventually the gains stopped.

Update:

Since the surgery, my rate of size increase has slowed dramatically, but it hasn’t stopped. Yesterday I reached a maximum of 22.0 cm in the pump, less than 1 cm away from an in-pump measurement of 9 in. The improvement in Erection quality, however, has plateaued. At this point I’ve tried pumping, stem cells, shockwave therapy, and a variety of OTC and prescription antifibrotics. I think the next logical step for me is a prosthesis. From my research it looks like the Coloplast Titan would be the best option for me, and unlike some other models, it’s also available in larger sizes. I just need to make sure it will fully expand the corpora cavernosa.

I think ultimately I’ll have a functional length somewhere around 8.5”. I’m happy with that.