TOPIC: Dr. Loria

DR LORIA wrote: I will be more than happy to entertain any questions.

Dr. Loria

There are tons of them in this thread alone. I\'d recommend starting from page one of this thread and answering any question you haven\'t already previously answered. The best way to go about doing this is by Quoting a specific post by clicking on the icon on the top-right hand side of each post marked by a small pencil followed by a few dots. This will prompt a reply with the original question in a box quote. This way you can answer questions and members will see which questions you were addressing.

I highly recommend starting there first.

Hi Dr.Loria,

You have mentioned that you mix Silikon, Artefill with other temporary fillers (e.g. Restylane, Juvederm and other elements) in a precise concentration.

1- Does this mixture help you in avoiding micro-droplets technique (a long procedure)?? I.e. Does the new product contain micro-droplets (beads) of silicone suspended in a carrier ? (Do the Artefill and the other temporary fillers convert the whole volume of Silikon 1000 into multiple very small drops of silikon ??

2- Do we have to do skin-test 28 days before the 1st injection ? (Due to the present of Artefill ??)

3- In regard of Glans enhancement how deep do you insert your needle from the outer surface ( millimeter?? ) ?

4- Do you use a needle or a blunt micro-cannula during the procedure ?

5- Do you advise your patients to use a penile extender post-injection, if yes for how long should they use it ?

6- Before using this mixture, have you tried only Silikon 1000 injection with a micro-droplets technique for penile enhancement ? if the answer is yes, why have you changed your technique and the product ??

7- You have mentioned as far as I remember a person might need 1-6 sessions and around 10-60 cc\'s ?? I thought in the new mixture you have more permanent products per cc than a pure Artefill (which contains only 20% beads) and in regard of the volume injected per round e.g. 60 cc\'s I think it is a large volume in one round (for 2 reasons :- 1- it is advised in pure penile PMMA injection not to inject a large volume ---> complications e.g. lumps. 2- Also in regard of Silikon injection it has been mentioned that the doctor should avoid injecting a large volume in one session ---> there will be no micro-droplets ---> a danger of migration of Silikon and infection.

Dr. Loria, I am glad you joined our site.

Since you have been doing PE for about a year, I have to believe that you know very well that quoting an increase in length of 1/2 to 1.25\" will cause most men to \"want\" to think this is in Erect state. So it is very important for any Dr in the PE business to be very careful in his statements to make sure there is no wrong expectations from his future patients or from people on this site.

There were some pictures posted in this thread (page 2, post #30) that were supposed to be of your work. You may want to look at them and verify its authenticity to clear any misunderstanding...

I impatiently await your answers...

Skeptical One wrote:

DR LORIA wrote: I will be more than happy to entertain any questions.

Dr. Loria

There are tons of them in this thread alone. I\'d recommend starting from page one of this thread and answering any question you haven\'t already previously answered. The best way to go about doing this is by Quoting a specific post by clicking on the icon on the top-right hand side of each post marked by a small pencil followed by a few dots. This will prompt a reply with the original question in a box quote. This way you can answer questions and members will see which questions you were addressing.

I highly recommend starting there first.

That is the thing to do. Just so we don\'t have to flood this thread with doubled questions.
The real important ones, on which we can build after your answers, can be found on the previous pages already.
Welcome and thanks for taking the time, we appreciate your answers!

(Just as a probably unnecessary hint, the mixture of your injectionmaterial!)

Welcome!

Perhaps we should start a new thread for Dr. Loria including all of the questions that have been inquired in this thread.

That\'s what I was thinking. There is a lot of off topic smearing intheirs thread.

kcchief wrote: That\'s what I was thinking. There is a lot of off topic smearing intheirs thread.

If what you mean by \"off topic smearing\" is the accusation, investigation and eventual banning of shills supporting (and most logically employed by) Dr. Loria\'s office then I would have to say that it definitely is \"on topic\".This action calls into question the very ethics of the doctor and hence anything further he has to say.So I will address the elephant in the room and ask him why he felt the need to employ shady tactics such as shills and possible fake photographs.

Dear Dr.Loria, if you don\'t mind I would like to know your opinion about the followings points :-

1- Silikon 1000 should not be mixed with other substances and it cannot be re-sterilized and any unused portion should be discarded:-

www.alconlabs.com/media/A_Alcon_Journal/...0599_SILIKON1000.pdf \" the precautions \".

beautysurge.com/learn/skin_silikon1000.html \" notes \"

2- As you know if a doctor wants to get the best and safest result in regard of Silikon 1000 injection he has to follow the following points :-
Adhere to strict serial puncture microdroplet technique, with injections only into the subdermal plane or deeper. Silikon™ 1000 should be injected through a 30G Max-Flo® needle (Richard James Development) with approximately 0.01cc injected with each needle insertion, at approximately 2-5mm intervals. A second pass may be taken in the deepest areas, about 5mm deeper than the first pass. Over a period of several weeks, a limited foreign-body response causes each microdroplet to be enveloped by a collagenous capsule. This promotes further tissue augmentation and allows each microdroplet to be anchored in place, obviating the risk of migration. So it is advised only small volume should be injected in each session (e.g. in HIV facial lipoatrophy only 2cc\'s should be injected), injection of large volumes all at once increases the risk for migration along tissue planes, as a bolus of silicone oil will not immediately anchor itself to the surrounding tissue.

So I expect that you have tried before only Silikon 1000 but you have changed or modified the product and your technique, can you please, explain to me the reasons for that ? Is the advantage of this new form only to avoid the serial puncture micro-droplet technique ??

I honestly can\'t see this thread going any where the way it going. I dont know loria work for him or live in Florida. The boss SO knows this and I don\'t want to be banned. I wouldn\'t be suprised if he don\'t return to answer questions. You want a open and honest forum but jump
On anyone looking for a different option then your beloved doctor C.
When will that stop and the real discussion start? My idea is for a
Open minded mod like M7 speek to him then. I say this because him and I were open minded and looking at doc M in Atlanta and together came to the same conclusion. I not looking for a simalir minded person just a
Non biased guy to lead the conversion. If SO need more personal info on me to prove I not a shill he will get it. I was hopeing for some answers from Loria but can\'t blame him for not responding. Rember this gentlemen we all here for the same reason a bigger unit by any way we can get it. Nothing works till we try and explore it. I don\'t want shilling
Distorting the thread and understand why they we\'re banned.
Kcchief

KCChief
Your insinuation that PhalloBoards is biased in favor of Dr. C is blatantly untrue, but I am not going to get roped into defending our integrity and spend time explaining to you something that if you haven\'t realized by now (with all your time on the forum), you won\'t get anyhow. I am guessing that you at least believe that there was shilling (on dr. Loria\'s behalf) going on. Am I correct? Instead of thanking SO for the hours of his own free time tracking down proxy emails and Pming the shills themselves, you attack him and the site (except for M7) for not be \"open minded\" enough.What\'s more, after the scam had been exposed, you accuse the moderators of being biased (except for M7) and in danger of scaring Dr. Loria away.

The reason this site was created was to prevent the very thing that doctor Loria tried to pull from happening. If we weren\'t so vigilante, then this Site would just be another shill infested nightmare, like it was with Mynewsize I would like to see Dr. Loria answer the questions about his PE procedure too, but to pretend that he didn\'t try to pull a fast one from the beginning would be ridiculous. Messageman

messageman wrote: KCChief
Your insinuation that PhalloBoards is biased in favor of Dr. C is blatantly untrue, but I am not going to get roped into defending our integrity and spend time explaining to you something that if you haven\'t realized by now (with all your time on the forum), you won\'t get anyhow. I am guessing that you at least believe that there was shilling (on dr. Loria\'s behalf) going on. Am I correct? Instead of thanking SO for the hours of his own free time tracking down proxy emails and Pm the shills themselves, you attack him and the site (except for M7) for not be \"open minded\" enough.And now, after the scam has been exposed, you are throwing a mini tantrum , accusing the moderators of not being \"open minded\", and to not scare the doctor away.The reason this site was created was to prevent the very thing that doctor Loria tried to pull from happening. If we weren\'t so vigilante, then this Site would just be another shill infested nightmare, like it was with Mynewsize I would like to see Dr. Loria answer the questions about his PE procedure too, but to pretend that he didn\'t try to pull a fast one from the beginning, would be ridiculous. Messageman

I am going to have to agree with Messageman here. This thread has Dr. Loria\'s name on it, and it would only suit all future prospects to be aware of all the questions posed to the physician and his method from the very beginning.

I don\'t believe the word \"smear\" is a fair characterization of this thread. If anyone objectively analyzes each post, you\'ll see there are more often questions than conclusions. As Messageman pointed out, the insinuation that there is any agenda other than the free flow of information is preposterous. I could have prevented Dr. Loria from joining this forum altogether, but instead not only did I approve his account but welcomed him as cordially as a forum Admin can.

We must be willing to ask the tough questions. If anyone wishes to get their own answers, they are welcome to contact the doctor directly. Otherwise, if Dr. Loria is promoting a new penis enlargement method, it would be wise for him to address the most prolific PE-Surgery forum on the web. For those who are much newer to the forum, if you take the time to review the old PhalloBoards (Phalloplasty.proboards.com), including threads found here, you\'ll see that PMMA (and Dr. C\'s office) were grilled for every nook and cranny of info possible before men even began setting up appointments. And it wasn\'t until after a few waves of brave pioneers that we were able to ascertain the short-term realities of PMMA. And with all this being said, we\'re still not entirely sure of the long-term implications. However, with Dr. Loria, there has been such a lack of transparency that it raises questions, and fairly so.

And let us not forget the shilling element. No credible doctor should ever engage in such practices.

I feel that he should remain on this thread, and if he\'s a genuinely ethical doctor with a truly effective method, he\'ll be able to support it with thorough answers, picture submissions, etc.

I should add, there is no reason for Dr. Loria to discontinue posting. I have politely & cordially invited him to answer questions. As a physician, I believe he will appreciate the inquisitive minds of our members and will learn that we can all benefit from each other\'s insight.

I have also made it clear that disrespect toward any of Dr. Loria\'s responses will not be tolerated. This is true for both members and Moderators.

I sincerely hope Dr. Loria addresses the Phalloplasty-scene at large. We welcome a new method, a new discussion.

Haha I think you guys scared Dr. Loria away with questions he\'s not able to answer Jk .

@kchief - You have to realize they everyone in here is not biased. Please do remember these are the same people not too long ago who questioned Dr. C and his method. We have to thank the pioneers who took the plunge when it was new and reported their results. Difference between Dr. C and Dr.Loria is that Dr. C have real patients reporting back with happy results and Dr. Loria just comes on with claims. Please think rationally before making accusations against other members.

kcchief wrote: I honestly can\'t see this thread going any where the way it going. I dont know loria work for him or live in Florida. The boss SO knows this and I don\'t want to be banned. I wouldn\'t be suprised if he don\'t return to answer questions. You want a open and honest forum but jump
On anyone looking for a different option then your beloved doctor C.
When will that stop and the real discussion start? My idea is for a
Open minded mod like M7 speek to him then. I say this because him and I were open minded and looking at doc M in Atlanta and together came to the same conclusion. I not looking for a simalir minded person just a
Non biased guy to lead the conversion. If SO need more personal info on me to prove I not a shill he will get it. I was hopeing for some answers from Loria but can\'t blame him for not responding. Rember this gentlemen we all here for the same reason a bigger unit by any way we can get it. Nothing works till we try and explore it. I don\'t want shilling
Distorting the thread and understand why they we\'re banned.
Kcchief

I know you\'re not trying to provoke, but you really don\'t know the whole story. This is an open minded forum, but at the same time the more experienced among us need to do what we can to highlight the pitfalls we\'ve seen in area of cosmetic surgery that has a disastrous history. Every time and new method comes along there is a hive of excitement, driven by desire and naivety, followed by untold reports of devastation. History simply repeats itself.

When doing everything possible to discourage people from the Elist implant, it was for a long time and almost impossible task, as it\'s the guys who wanted a bigger penis that lacked open mindedness. They thought by asking questions and discussing with other like minded guys that they were indeed being open minded, but in reality were largely of a mindset that blanked out obvious red flags, which meant the Dr and his method should have been dismissed out of hand, almost straight away. Instead the reason no one is now interested in the Elist implant is due to reading the horrors of it\'s numerous victims.

Why don\'t you have an Elist implant in your penis right now or even more likely why aren\'t you dealing with the fallout of having an Elist implant? Be honest in answering that question.

If you really think Dr Loria and his method are worth discussing further, then go ahead, but I will say now I think you are utterly insane. I\'d be interested to know the criteria by which you could be convinced of the suitability of a particular method of PE. As I said earlier in the thread I just can\'t see how we can possibly find out enough information to make this a viable option, but if you or others disagree then you must have an entirely different criteria to mine.

Oh and by the way, I haven\'t had PMMA and currently have no plans to do so, so \"beloved Dr C\" means nothing to me.

Hoddle I respect your comments and apologize for blowing my top. I honestly can say I didn\'t have a elist implant because of the this fourm.
I saved over 10k and a nightmare situation from happening. I do want to believe in dr Loria method because I think the silikon gets the same body reaction as PMMA. I know doctor c is highly respected here and properly so. As promising as PMMA is there are still issues with it. Now I would be naive to believe Loria procedure is better with out looking at the complications and wanting more info on it. I want to get the answers we are all looking for to make a decision. I had no idea the doctor c was under the microscope like he was,and respect how he handled it by being transparent. I was not used to seeing a doctor be so scrutinized like this and I took offence because I started this thread. For MM question I
Do believe we had shill activity.and I deplore that kind of thing. I was great full SO charted with me about the suspect behavior and keep me informed about the situation.
Kcchief