TOPIC: Straight up, WHO or What is Legit for PE?? Please Help

8 years post op, what will change physiologically? Why all of a sudden would your collagen turn on you?

What is meant here by \"legit\"? Appeasing your mind by making excuses for yourself or what is \"necessary\" for you?

I am not in your shoes, but legit in your case is leaving yourself as you are and finding someone else ...

Jogift who\'s to say that his next partner wont be like the first one. Women are cruel and demand the biggest when as loose as ever it\'s just how they are. If gettibg PMMA and HA helps his marriage and restores his confidence then why not do it.

From what I\'ve gathered over my lifetime:-

a) if she \"still\" likes him to be bigger, it means she\'s \"still\" cheating (even if mentally and eventually physically).

b) Looking at the gains reported in this forum for the procedures, he will NEVER BE BIG ENOUGH for her!

Phalloplasty should really be a solution for one\'s own desires. It\'s clear that he\'s not what she wants but he knows best ...

i think your wrong, she may not be cheating byt she possibly always wanted a big Dick. Women are fixated on it as if its all life has to offer. I do agree with you that it shoukd be his chose,but how many guy here has gone to dr c because of their lover? There\'s plenty of members who has gotten a 7 Inch Girth, hell fatmike has a 9 Inch Girth.

I think 2cents wants to know where he can \"safely\" add 3\" to his 4\". If the cheatmate had 9\", then ... !!!

I think it\'s safe going to Dr Oates. Bothered though, about 0.5\" gain at 18ml! 15ml costs about 8.5K, airfare and hotel etc. might be closing to 20 grand! Like 2cents I\'d want to know too but not only safely, also cheaper (I need 1.0\", he would need about 3\"). WOW !!!

cav8000 wrote: I\'d like to know how many guys on this forum who have had PMMA for longer than 7 or 8 years are still satisfied and have no regrets. Short term, PMMA might be just fine. Long term, I seriously doubt it.

You realize your doubt is based merely on baseless speculation? What has tipped you off that a product that\'s been used in other parts of the body for more than \"7-8 years\" is going to fail those who have it in their penis now?

Well, given my being around for 5 years of the PMMA trend, I can say that a good number (probably majority, hard to ascertain the number since not everyone posts) are content. Most complaints (if not all) have been aesthetic in nature. I have yet to read one credible, proven case of major complication as it pertains to medical grade PMMA applied into the penis by a qualified practitioner.

Quite frankly, if the attitude is \"don\'t even think about PMMA,\" I\'d hit the exit button on this browser ASAP. All other methods are effectively obsolete due to unacceptable frequency of major complications. Temporary fillers are trending (due to PMMA\'s success) but face the harsh reality of a lack of permanence and a need for top-offs...the same aesthetic issues can also arise. Really, the only 2 satisfactory choices are PMMA (permanent) or Temporary Fillers.

Cav, you\'ve been registered for 2 months and have drawn a conclusion based on what? I can say, with the utmost confidence & certainty that there is no better way to guaranteed Girth (unlike Manual Penis Exercises that don\'t work for everyone) while maintaining some semblance of a natural penis. If you go into penis enlargement thinking that 100% perfect outcomes are an acceptable expectation, you\'re deluded at best. Much like \"boob jobs,\" no matter how good the doctor, you\'re bound to detect the difference between a natural & a fake. The field of Phalloplasty has been marred for decades with nothing but botches and \"blobs,\" so with the advent of PMMA, we\'re rather spoiled... As in, today we bitch about ridges & nodules when only a few years ago people bitched about impotence, scarring, tissue Necrosis, infection, etc. You newer folk have no idea.

That all said, I still wouldn\'t recommend any sort of work (including PMMA) to the average or above-average folk. To be honest, I started this forum for the genuinely under-average in hopes of finding a sense of normalcy. Fact is, PMMA is the closest we\'ve ever been. Is there a potential for better procedures in the future? Heck yea, I\'d imagine through stem-cell advancements/health sciences, we may find some way. But until then, PMMA is literally without peer.

It\'s true that us the new ones don\'t do proper research. Many of the threads are lengthily interspersed with off-topic opinions and nuances, making it very difficult to do serious research.

The key words of this thread are \"straight up\". Therefore, keeping these keywords in mind, could the veterans kindly enlighten us as to whom, where, what, percentages, initial volumes, immediate aftercare, number of rounds etc. that will be good and \"safe\" PE for us?

Skeptical One wrote:
Most complaints (if not all) have been aesthetic in nature. I have yet to read one credible, proven case of major complication as it pertains to medical grade PMMA applied into the penis by a qualified practitioner.

So, there are absolutely no users on this forum who have experienced anything other than \"oh, this PMMA doesn\'t look very good\"? That\'s certainly a peculiar way of interpreting the multiple posts I have read where it\'s clearly not just an aesthetic situation. I have read flat out horror stories where PMMA had to be removed through degloving and cases where inflammation has led to all sorts of issues. I also truly believe that the sort of inflammation caused by PMMA can lead to other medical issues such as cancer.

Traveling to Tiajuana to get non FDA approved plastic inserted into your penis is one of most sketchy, seedy, unwise, ludicrous, and desperate things I have ever heard of. Skeptical One, you have obviously convinced yourself that PMMA is 100% safe and that you nor anyone else will suffer anything negative from its effects later on down the road. Yes, the body does change as we get older. The last thing I would want when I get much older is a penis full of hardened cement-like lumps and the hightened risk of prostate cancer or something else due to inflammation from an unnatural substance that I foolishly traveled to Mexico to have inserted into my penis. Staying natural and pumping is the way to go.

Cav, I\'ve read the same horror stories, and often it turned out to be someone that had an aesthetic issue, which they could not mitigate, and opted for an extreme way to get rid of their perceived problem. However, I do agree with your fundamental concerns about PMMA. For some, it does cause periodic inflammation which can lead to additional health problems later on down the road. It\'s this \"later on down the road\" uncertainty that keeps me from this procedure. Ultimately, it appears to be a person-specific situation, which you can attribute to *any* procedure. So, due to its permanence and \"relative\" safety, I have to agree with S.O.

Cav, of course long-term implications are valid concerns, but you went as far as saying \"seriously doubt it\" with no sort of rational behind your doubts. Just a hunch, no sort of research or science that gives concrete backbone to your \"doubts.\" And yea, dissatisfied PMMA reports are nothing like dissatisfied implant, graft, & scaffold reports. No comparison.

Also, people put \"artificial\" things on & in their bodies, it isn\'t uncommon in medicine. People travel abroad for cosmetic procedures, this too isn\'t uncommon.

I have never suggested it was 100% safe. Continue to put words in my mouth and you can take your bullshit elsewhere. I asserted, relatively speaking, that PMMA offers some people a chance at Girth (e.g. the under-average, thin, etc) without the poor track record of past procedures. Pumping isn\'t without risks, and considerable damage can be done to your penis if you over do it. This is actually a fact. I have intimate knowledge of men who have literally broken their dicks with manual PE exercising, I can not say the same with PMMA. So obviously, when it comes to penis enlargement, nothing is 100% safe.

cav8000, chester. I would like to think that S O was addressing wild statements out of the blue, not creating a thread within a thread. These innuendos are causing some of the difficulty in research in the forum.

Please, let\'s keep to the topic of the thread! Let the veterans enlighten us, straight up, what we need to know ...

You don\'t have to travel to Tijuana to get PMMA injected in your penis. PMMA is fda approved just not under the brand names that are used in Tijuana. There are doctors that have started injecting PMMA into the penis in the NJ/NY area since last year, it is incredibly expensive.

Dr heller and dr mirza in nyc