TOPIC: Best option right now?? New, well-informed, kinda confused, but too depressed to accept my dick

hoddle10 wrote:
I varied from 5\" to 4.75\". So I gained between an 0.75\" and an Inch. It stayed at 5.75\" for maybe a month, I can\'t remember exactly and then I dissolved it. But I had another go with just a 0.4\" gain and it still wasn\'t for me.

Something else i noted that made me realize it wasn\'t for me was because it was temporary, it didn\'t feel like I could relax about my penis size issues. I kept measuring in case it was dissolving and it was also on my mind what I\'d do if I got into a relationship and would I be able afford to maintain it etc. You\'ll be bruised and swollen for a week or two, so you have to factor in having that once a year, so if you are in a relationship, you might have to come clean. Personally I don\'t think I could do that, as this insecurity is a really big deal to me. Also the process can ware you down. I just want it all over and done with and can\'t face trying to maintain something. I want to move on in life and not think about PE anymore. I look forward to a time when I don\'t have to log onto PB\'s several times per day. I know Hunkydory went through a similar thought process, hence he deleted his account (though he\'s since come back!)

Again it\'s horses for courses. Guys that aren\'t that insecure about their size etc wont need to worry about it, but those of us who have real size hang ups, might find a temp solution doesn\'t totally alleviate their anxiety.

I really appreciate your honest feedback, and I hear where you\'re coming from on all counts. But I have to ask in an attempt to de-muddy the waters--forget about your worries about it being temporary, or someone noticing your scars, or fears about covering up 2 weeks and the expense of a top off--was the 1/2\" gain (or 0.4) still really too \"squishy\", such that it didn\'t feel right to you (or your parnter)? That\'s what I\'m trying to get at.

Thanks!
LL

ll wrote: I really appreciate your honest feedback, and I hear where you\'re coming from on all counts. But I have to ask in an attempt to de-muddy the waters--forget about your worries about it being temporary, or someone noticing your scars, or fears about covering up 2 weeks and the expense of a top off--was the 1/2\" gain (or 0.4) still really too \"squishy\", such that it didn\'t feel right to you (or your parnter)? That\'s what I\'m trying to get at.

Thanks!
LL

Yes it was, but it\'s very important to remember that everyone\'s penis is different and this effects how the HA feels. I\'ve seen 2 amazing HA results done by the same injector and they felt natural. But it\'s the same with FFT. Some guys say their fat feels totally natural, whilst others say it\'s really soft and squishy. Basically my experience alone isn\'t much for you to go on.

aleksk wrote:
Yes, I\'ve thought about it a lot. I\'ve thought about everything.

Every year, a sizable part of your savings have to go on this. Instead of doing something really nice with that money, like travel the world. And every year, your result may be different. And that\'s an emotional roller-coaster. And you may need touch ups. And if you\'re in a long term relationship or any relationship you have to get creative in telling lies.

And if you do this every year for many years I don\'t know what the trauma to your penis may mean for your Erection quality etc. Who wants to go to a doctor every so often and drop their pants and have canulas or needles injected in their penis? And then the uncertainty of how it\'s going to settle every single fucking time.

And again the $$$$.

It\'s all very depressing. But is there anything better? I, personally, do not see it.

There is no one universal answer, as there are so many factors. For me PMMA seems like the better option. But I tried FFT, PLGA scaffolds, HA and waited 5 years before reaching that opinion. I learned a little from every experience and of course the passing of time changed me. I\'m approaching 40 and realized I had to do something now or my life would pass me by. I can\'t continue to live depressed about my penis size, logging onto a forum all the time to talk with other guys with similar issues. Yes there are risks with PMMA, but are they really greater than the risks to my mental health by doing nothing? I concluded they weren\'t. Ultimately being obsessed with my penis size is terribly detrimental to my life and I don\'t think that issue would be resolved with a temp filler.

Wow... I just read this rally of posts.

I now better visualize the HA \"feel\" But maybe someone can help me understand, does it still have a better feel that a \"pumped Dick\"? Lol... That\'s the only real reference that I can relate to.

Hoddle, I\'m in the same thinking regarding PMMA. (smaller fills low % over time) I also thought perhaps Silkon 1000 could be an option for that method but there\'s no real data available or anyone that I\'m aware who performs that.

My problem with PMMA, when I spoke to Wade on the phone he told me that exceeding 3 sessions is not advised at all. When asked \"why\" it was because of some difficulty re-entering and disturbing the area. This is contrary to other reports here on PB, so I left that conversation feeling (frankly) like they are \"making it up as they go\" so to speak.... That makes me nervous and I gave up on my multiple small round PMMA approach as I relied on them to be the best judge for feasibility.

My concern is that If I do not gain as much as I was hoping for then I\'m ineligible for different fillers in the future due to compatibility issues. Maybe that\'s totally BS and I\'m certainly open to that being the case but I don\'t know. In the meantime I started looking at HA and other fillers.


I\'m in my later 30\'s and feel the same way about wanting a solution . At times it has been disappointing and depressing and at other times I forget about it all together and go a couple years and forget about my Dick....(not in a good way) but still insecure under the surface and probably not as aggressive perusing women as I could be. I originally looked into PE few years back when
\"My New Size\" was around. I almost pulled the trigger on the Elist Implant until someone blew up that site which I though was odd. I even visited Elist and realized the whole operation was a shill
(it was obvious) so I walked right out of there in the middle of the consult. That was depressing as I thought I had found a solution.

Great thread. H10, thank you for sharing your personal journey. My precise sentiments over HA were validated here. HA is just a liquid that sits in your penis, whereas PMMA cultivates your own body to grow. My only concern is those plastic pellets. If only there was a shot that induced permanent collagen growth without those plastic pellets.

So, what do we say to popopo, who started this thread? He registered only 16 hours ago and the first advice he received is to have Girth gains by HA, which he doesn\'t even know what it is.

I am still urging him to do in-depth research, there\'s so much information here.

However, let\'s be empathetic. I imagine myself coming unto the most reputable forum for the first time, advised about a filler and in a short time the members start writing theses about fillers. That aside, what would I find here? There are the fear of gawd theories that some fillers might explode in the future, migrate to your coronary, clog up your prostrate or even pull out your hair! There are doctors who propose 10,000 pin-holes in your Dick with a needle (micro-droplets) or those who have had no experience about a particular procedure but condemns it in favour of theirs. There are members who whine about nodules and ridges whilst thousands actually \"PAY\" to have marbles and rods stithched into their dicks to give the same effect, members who have had fillers but ashamed to say that muscular chicks can \"squeeze\" their wands in the vagina. The list goes on. But I see some pics of fucked looking dicks being praised as awesome, I see the only Erect penis after HA, looking as if it\'s just finished a session in a Bathmate but its praised as awesome.

What do I want? True, everyone is different from the other, but blood pressure is 120/80; 140/100 is hypertensive. Likewise, a normal Erection is rigid, hard, looking vascular and sinewy. That\'s what I\'d want, the answers for that is what I\'d be looking for.

I\'d be thankful to members like smalljay, recklaw, hunky, resto, hoddle and a host of others who put out the reality to choose from.

But popopo, the ball is in your court, you have to look for your own answers! Because me, by my nature, I don\'t give a damn about nodules and ridges for as long as they don\'t supporate (don\'t women buy dildos with nodules?). Any chick scrutinizing my Dick and asking questions, I kick her arse. My wife doesn\'t like my Dick? She can check-out too ...

The answer I gave in my first post clearly noted that it was my personal conclusion, not advise on what procedure is best, and clearly noted the downsides of HA. But as hoddle10 noted above:

it\'s very important to remember that everyone\'s penis is different and this effects how the HA feels. I\'ve seen 2 amazing HA results done by the same injector and they felt natural. But it\'s the same with FFT. Some guys say their fat feels totally natural, whilst others say it\'s really soft and squishy.

There is a lot of variations here, for sure. But at least if one were to try HA and find it gave them a squishy Dick that they were unhappy with it\'s easily reversible.

@hoddle10 - what type of HA did you have?

cheers,
~LL

hoddle10 wrote:


I did notice a difference in Teosyal and Voluma. I can\'t remember the exact type of Teosyal I used, but I\'m sure Hunkydory will remember, so I can ask him. I\'d say Teosyal felt more like a graft, perhaps comparable to a mouse mat. It had more rigidity than Voluma. The downside was that it was harder to inject. Voluma came out of the canula much easier. Though I\'m sure a wider canula could be used, but then maybe a stitch would be needed, but I\'m not sure.

Looks like Teosyal and Voluma

buffdawg wrote:

Looks like Teosyal and Voluma

Ah thanks, now I recall reading that last night, I must be still asleep because I completely forgot.

~LL

There are so many debates about fillers on this board and almost nobody interested in length (though, it\'s important too), that makes me think, that everyone at this board have at least 8\" NBP, but in fact, many guys here in range from 5\" to 6\".Of course, maybe it\'s an \"average normal\", but why you \"forget\" about your length and focused only at Girth? Why we don\'t search alternative ways to effective gain of Erect length? I mean, stretching working very slow and has low effectiveness (you can\'t gain more than 1-1.5\" even after many YEARS of stretching and some didn\'t even gained anything at all), while ligament cutting is totally bullshit which is proved by many members.We should pay our attention to a real effective ways, like stem cells, regenerative medicine, DNA editing via CRISPR/Cas9 to bringing back sensitivity of androgen receptors, and also possibly, new improved chemical PE regimens.Guys, I know, Girth is much important than length, but imagine penis with 7\" Girth and ONLY 5\" length. This is so obvious unaesthetic and far away from natural looking penis.

LL, why are you taking my post personal? A problem here is that researchers just skim through the posts, not reading deeply and between the lines, then even forgetting what they read in the very next post!

A newcomer needs help? Refer him, guide him, give him some summaries etc. Right now, we\'ve even derailed the guy\'s thread!

My last post is a summary of the many bullshit that can be found here due to un-scientific researching and posting randomly. We all know it\'s true that they can all be found on this board. But are we really helping each other in this way? More importantly, are we helping an helpless (maybe hopelessly lost) newcomer this way? I joined almost a year ago but within a few months I was 100 times more knowledgeable than before I came on. Alas, some of the great contibuting members are no more!

Let\'s come back to popopo\'s thread. In what direction are we taking it now? What can we answer to him? Did we understand what he\'s asking? Can we give him knowledgeable help?

Can we start from here, please?

Cheers ...

jogift wrote: LL, why are you taking my post personal? A problem here is that researchers just skim through the posts, not reading deeply and between the lines, then even forgetting what they read in the very next post! A newcomer needs help? Refer him, guide him, give him some summaries etc. Right now, we\'ve even derailed the guy\'s thread! My last post is a summary of the many bullshit that can be found here due to un-scientific researching and posting randomly. We all know it\'s true that they can all be found on this board. But are we really helping each other in this way? More importantly, are we helping an helpless (maybe hopelessly lost) newcomer this way? I joined almost a year ago but within a few months I was 100 times more knowledgeable than before I came on. Alas, some of the great contibuting members are no more! Let\'s come back to popopo\'s thread. In what direction are we taking it now? What can we answer to him? Did we understand what he\'s asking? Can we give him knowledgeable help? Can we start from here, please? Cheers ...

I have no clue what you\'re going on about, and I don\'t take any of this personally. If there is any derailing going on I certainly don\'t feel that I\'m part of it. Sorry, but I really don\'t get your last two posts, but if you\'re 100 times knowledgeable now I would certainly like to hear a concise, direct summary of your current thinking on the best course of action. That might be a good way to get the thread back on track.

Cheers,
LL

O K.

Popopo, I \"believe\" that you should try to get some length back. Even if scarred, gentle pulling with an els40 or phallosan over a long period (say one year) could help. But it must be consistently for several hours a day.

You do not need surgery. So,for Girth (related), you must do in-depth and extensive research here on this forum. You can have some marbles stitched unto your Dick to pleasurably stimulate your partner (don\'t laugh! Go to thread \"Beading\"), find out some about temporary fillers - techniques, physical and psychological effects, locations, costs etc. at example \"Dr Mohammed Mirhza ...\", \"Dr Kim in Korea ...\" For permanent fillers, down to earth and realistic information can be obtained from the Patient Support Category. Threads by smalljay, restoration, hoddle10 etc.

Takes some time and patience, keeping an open but yet imaginative mind. Learn to sieve out the irrelevants, don\'t be thin-skinned so that you can enjoy some humour along the way and the best of luck ...

jogift wrote: O K. Popopo, I \"believe\" that you should try to get some length back. Even if scarred, gentle pulling with an els40 or phallosan over a long period (say one year) could help. But it must be consistently for several hours a day.

I absolutely agree. I saw your other post on extenders where you said you gained 0.5\" in a year. I did the same using an extender even under a year, and this is why I recommended an extender in my first post. I believe extenders, if used cautionsly, are extremely safe and effective.

jogift wrote: You do not need surgery.

Also agree.

jogift wrote: find out some about temporary fillers - techniques, physical and psychological effects, locations, costs etc. at example \"Dr Mohammed Mirhza ...\", \"Dr Kim in Korea ...\"

You probably mean \"Mizra\", and people would be well advised to stay away from him... I don\'t know much about Kim and megafill, but I\'ve read some negative reports on this site and can safely say I\'ve 100 percent discounted traveling to Korea for that! Also, it\'s sometimes really hard to make good decisions from anecdotal evidence or individual reports, so make sure to keep an eye on the latest clinical studies that have been done... that\'s why I posted a summary from the HA study on 41 patients and their partners... which specifically pointed out the lack of \"total rigidity\".

jogift wrote: For permanent fillers, down to earth and realistic information can be obtained from the Patient Support Category. Threads by smalljay, restoration, hoddle10 etc.

Agree, this is a good place to start. But just note that individual responses to PMMA will be just as varied as responses to HA.Cheers,
LL

Do you agree about the marbles?

It\'s good for him to read all these posts, however negative they may be. I shouldn\'t say it openly but sometimes it\'s good to scare the hell out of them so that they just leave themselves as they are! If not, well, they\'ve been warned ...