TOPIC: Major Changes Ahead

SO, I do remember that you supported me twice when I posted that Dr Oates thread was being derailed and when I wrote that the forum was losing its \"sting\" due to numerous unnecessary threads. Thanks so much for that.

Now, the forum is yours and you\'ve stated \"no debate\" on the issue but in the interest of fairness (without finger pointing or blame game);-

1) The moderators themselves do \"egg on\" some of these stupid threads. How many posts by moderators are in the thread about Circumcision alone that you mentioned as negative? Is it possible that they may have been lax in their roles (howbeit voluntary) in guiding and enforcing forum rules?

2) The \"members\" who called and PMed you personally about the state of the forum should have posted their views openly in the forum itself which could have helped to serve as a guide to the erring members. If it seems that there are \"behind the scene\" going ons that eventually affect the whole forum then there is the apparent \"Animal Farm\" feeling that runs deep.

I know I\'ve pissed off several members because I told them to \"shut up\", many times my posts are ignored because I might even be viewed as a nuisance but I am advocating openness and transparency here. Whilst the \"major changes\" are most welcome, could it not be an overall review of the forum as a whole, including forum rules, for instance, that allowed the degradation to the current state? I believe that there are now a much larger volume of posts than before and it might not be easy for moderators to sieve through them all. Removing the threads and posts but ensuring no more of them is essential ...

I support anything that\'s going to make life easier for the owner and the moderators by deleting excessive posting, including my own.
It seems slightly ludicrous to be constantly describing people and their posts as \"neurotic\" and depressive\" seen as this is a forum for people who are depressed about their penis.
Sometimes it seems the only people on here who aren\'t neurotic and depressed are people who are already 14cm thick and do PMMA for sport.

It\'s already very stressful to live in a society where I\'m forced to be tolerant to a muslim, if I consider them all to be terrorists; to gays, if I\'m straight or, if I\'m cut, to continue with a woman who was being fucked by an uncut guy and have \"smegma\" lining her cervix. Should we be dwelling on things like these? Should I take two hours obtaining two sentences I need when I could have done in ten minutes? These are problems for serious researchers looking for answers.

It is \"objective\" to include every post by everyone. But who really wants to read how many times reseachers of vaccines are scratching their arse? The major changes are necessary, only I think a complete overhauling should be done ...

I wasn\'t going to butt in, because I\'m fairly moderate on this issue and understand both sides, but I have to agree with aleksk. It\'s a point that I raised before in another thread. My fundamental disagreement with jogift is that he\'s viewing this forum as some sort of efficient FAQ tool. It is not. This is an organic, natural *forum* which is a very different thing. A forum is where people come to openly and honestly share a multitude of ideas, thoughts, formulas, experiences, ventings, etc., about all things related to the specified topic. By definition, a forum is an open platform of discussion. It can certainly be moderated, to ensure that information is relevant, and there are ways to accomplish S.O.\'s goal without deleting posts, as aleksk alluded to. I understand both sides, but it honestly doesn\'t bother me to read over some posts that easily miss the target of a thread, because I know that I\'m on a forum. This is what jogift doesn\'t seem to understand. This is not some kind of PE search engine. It\'s a forum. Either way, this is still, by far, the best place online to get truly informative and unbiased data and opinions about PE.

What you guys don\'t get is it doesn\'t have to be fair or objective or liked among the members.

The same thing happened with the paid membership decision, people bitched and moaned about his decision. Its his forum. He paid for it out of pocket except for the small amount of donations.

Like it or not it is a online forum. That does not give anyone any right to determine how the administrative staff runs it, or the ownership operates it. It is not a democracy nor a publicly traded corporation. Its not a government agency and at the top of his forum rules it says very clearly

The rules of the forum are subject to change at any time.

Guess what folks they are changing and he is giving a heads up when he clearly doesnt need to.

S.O. owes nobody anything. (He started out at 3.5\" Girth mind you)

If the forum disappeared tmrw, I wouldn\'t blame him.

The amount of sad-sack sob stories on here is pretty insane. Having a small Dick fucking sucks and I know it. I live it everyday. But I grit my teeth and lace up my boots everyday.. I suffer from depression and angst over it. I just work harder. If I was born 20 years ago, I\'d be fucked. No options. Now I\'m so thankful there is.

The thing that blows my mind is how sometimes a worthy thread can get little to no attention, while some crazy person comes on here talking about nonsense and everybody will come out of the woodwork to chime in.

This forum has helped hundreds of readers in many ways. It is a source of great information about some forms of PE.

I hope some of the readers will sit back, relax and enjoy the wealth of Personal and Private information available here, information that some of us have taken a huge risks to obtain and turned around and shared it publicly.

I also hope that the same readers will try to add and contribute in a Positive way to this forum.

I sincerely wish for the continuation of this site.

Live Long and F*** Long

Chester, you\'r an excellent analyst and almost got it right. Do you agree that the great strides in tehnology is since digital electronics?It\'s either \"yes or no\", \"1 or 0.\" HA moves? Yes or No! Should I read a thousand posts to get an answer?

lakingsfan, you are absolutely wrong! As chester says, it is a \"forum.\" Otherwise SO can just write papers and articles on the subject and publish them.

AndrogenS, what do you do until these \"promises\" have been established? Do you make use of what is available and proven? It\'s why we are here!

mike81, I think only the last paragraph of your post is correct. In line with that, in a former post of mine (few posts up), I mentioned that even the moderators are guilty of \"chiming\" in, to my disappointment.

mustang2020 is spot on ...

Sadly if you think this is forum is all about PMMA only, you have not read enough material here.

There are countless pages and pages of people who were fucked by several doctors. Read mustangs log. Read restorations log. Read darkstaff log.

Its not only PMMA, but HA, FFT, and even a few brave new Elist implants.

There are doctors on board that cover a multitude of procedures.

Yes it is a online forum. A privately owned one, that can do whatever he pleases. Is there a rule about online forums I dont know of that makes them a democracy?

Im sorry you chose not to share your experience with us. I did and have not had a procedure, I was almost an Elist victim, I mean patient. I still chime in, some would say I\'m a disinterested party now since I chose to fix my insecurities rather than chance a issue with an normal penis.

I chose to donate several times way prior to the paid forum change. Yes the popularity of PMMA is high, for what you pay vs what you get is the best most cost effective way to obtain Girth enhancement.

That does not come without risk of irregularities, and there are good, bad and ugly stories here, for all types of pe.

@alek

Did the member who\'s implant hardened get rounds of 30%? Man that sucks.

i just wanna say that my vote goes to Resto getting carte fucking blanche to write anything he wants and to get anxious if he needs to at any time. so S.O. with respect mate, i think Resto or people who\'ve been right down during their journey are allowed to be anxious and to write about their anxieties whenever they like. some people are more equal than others if you ask me, and anyone whose been really in the shit should get leeway when it comes to how they chose to chronicle for us.

and jogift my old china are you fucking pissed mate? what are you hating on muslims for? and gays?

and does anyone know, since this is my 100th post, do i get an extra Inch or something?

2 extra inches. (1 length, 1 Girth)

Yeah baby if you don\'t want those extra inches I\'ll gladly take em!!!

I don\'t post much because I don\'t always have something to add that hasn\'t already been stated,


I do read the information and appreciate everything that has been done here.

I read this particular thread twice because I didn\'t want to be ignorant and just blab what had already been addressed.

At first I was thinking maybe there\'s a way to keep it totally free/open but after re-reading, no....

I totally agree with this.

Reading back to the original scope of this forum from 11\'

Greetings! I\'m sure you have found this website in hopes to learn about all the surgical options available for Penis Enlargement (PE). Well you have come to the right place! This site is an online discussion community exchanging information about all the techniques and doctors available. There are also members here who are sharing their experiences (or progress reports) on their post-op penile enhancements.


That\'s it, pretty a simple scope... And that\'s good, because then information can be exchanged and people can learn. (which is the point.) If its too broad, the site will get out of control and it will fall apart, which is what\'s starting to happen. S.O. has the foresight to see this early on and he\'s trying to prevent that.

The site is structured well and yet Ive noticed a lot of members aren\'t aware of which areas to post in so people aren\'t reading what the site is about rather they are coming in like its a free for all.

Specifically the general discussion area is clogged with all kinds of random posts. Like members carpet bombing multiple posts of the same thing with OCD like panic. That\'s not a progress report or a functional exchange of information... or a guy with a 9\" dong looking for opinions if he should get PMMA. I missed the post with the guy who had issues with his parents about Circumcision.... Lol...

Maybe its a generation \"ME\" issue (not sure)

Maybe start a category call \"Crazies, Pussies, and People who don\'t Reed so Guud.\" and then dump in all in there. lol


I\'ll admit that I have been lured into participating in bullshit posts and I\'m going to be more mindful and refrain from this. My goal participating here is to be the most informed on PE options as possible and I don\'t want to lose the valuable content and information exchange that is available here. I appreciate all of you that have taken the time to post progress reports as this is invaluable information. I have not yet had a procedure and If I do then I will do the same if my information will help someone else.

I was around during MNS and if it wasn\'t for the photos of the protruding implant from the unlucky patient, I would have fallen victim of the Elist implant. After that site was destroyed I gave up on PE for a while and was fortunate enough to find this site before making any other rash decisions.

Restoration, based on what I have read on your posts you are not even close to an example of negative stuff what has been happening and I appreciate everything you have written. I think its kind of you for repeating/reiterating yourself to new people, but perhaps you have to be a bit selfish for those who wont make the effort to read or maybe say,

\"Hey bud I highly recommend you read this post\" and then give them a link. If people cant read you wont be able to help them anyways.... Me saying that has nothing to do with the tone of any of your posts but just an idea to keep things efficient and I\'m saying that in response to your reply and few posts back, for all I know what you have replied specifically in the past is perfectly fine. (non-issue)

I cant speak for the moderators, but just just for a minute subtract out the words negative/depressing (to remove any stigmas attached)

I believe the bottom line is that substantive information be exchanged/flowing and moving forward. If it becomes stagnate then there\'s no point.


Thank you,

DD

I edited by post because I had mistakenly confused Farmer John with a different forum member.

Sorry about that Farmer John.