TOPIC: What is the perfect size?

Yes. Length wise it\'s more harder. Girth is king and length is the prince??

lordoftorture wrote: I think you are grossly understating extender and Hanger efficacy.
They dont work for everybody, but for those who get length it is usually 1 to 1.5 Inch in time frame of 1- to 2 years. After certain gain in length you max out and there is no point in doing this for a decade.
I have had very minimal gains in length from Hanging for 6 months.

I\'m actually have a 5 years of real experience of many sorts of PE, including manual PE, Hanging and stretching with penile extenders. I\'ve gained about 0.5\" and that\'s all. Spending 5 years for 0.5\" gain is not what many of \"PE believers\" waiting before they start doing PE. Also, can you somehow prove that someone gained 1 to 1.5 Inch in Erect length? I didn\'t seen before/after pics with that gain, despite the fact I\'m watching for many of PE sites and thousands of progress reports for the last 5 years. And you know what? Nearly to 99% of these so called \"progress logs\" are just a tons of texts and many of them are fantasies. I repeat, I really didn\'t seen even one example of 1 to 1.5 Inch gain.

I tried manual PE for about 7-8 months, only difference I saw was slight increase in Flaccid which would go away after I stopped stretching for a few days. I know people react differently to manual PE, but if the majority of them have no good measurable results, Then there is no return on investment! why bother I say ?

I also have never read or seen an actual verifiable account of any one gaining and maintaining 1\"-1.5\" increase in length. The only two the I trust who have seen some results are Messageman and Miracle. So we have 2 out of many.

I am talking generally speaking here. I am sure there are the very few cases, but these few cases will not help the many cases where guys see no results!

Of course everyone must try their own way to find out for sure!