TOPIC: Why Do YOU Seek PE?

@Dd71, thanks for your input. I haven\'t had many complaints but like you I wanna make sure they are satisfied with nothing bad to say about my size. All I want is some Girth, don\'t wanna have to hear I have a skinny Dick or \"your average\". Guess what it comes down to is I just have to do it and put all that to rest.

I forgot to add that my experiences with REGULAR size condoms slipping off in sex definitely had a significant impact on my pursuit of PE.

@S.O.
I had that a few times! For me it was only really one brand / style that did it to me... but I had a whole box of 12 of them... it happened 3 times and I finally just threw out the box in frustration. I know my starting Girth was the smaller end of \"average\" which isn\'t terrible but, trust me, I know the feeling...

Hello everyone! finally made it over here.. I been seeking pe for a while because being african american I feel more pressured to measure up. And since I go after spanish and white women because of the media they expect you to pull out a second leg..lol.. and by god im gonna try hard to get there.

@ scepticalone they have snugger fitting condoms out there. I use Crown Skinless Skin codoms... their AMAZING!! and once you get going you can barley feel its there.

New1inch wrote: @ scepticalone they have snugger fitting condoms out there. I use Crown Skinless Skin codoms... their AMAZING!! and once you get going you can barley feel its there.

There are, but thank goodness I no longer have to use them. I\'m over 6 weeks post-op from my Girth procedure and can now comfortably use Regular condoms now woohoo!

As a young man i was never really actually worried about my size. This was actually due to having positive commentary about my size from the girls that had actually seen my penis(all young). Even then i still had a bit of longing to be bigger but never thought that anything could be done about it. I started to date one girl and this was later in high school. Our sex was good and from what she said it was very good. Well unfortunately i was around for a conversation about an experience of another girls that was a friend of my gf\'s about some guy who had a huge penis. Even though it wasn\'t my girlfriend that had experienced it i still felt a little self concious. So me being the young dumb guy i was i decided to ask her if i was big. Mind you this girl was a very intelligent one and wasn\'t a ditz. In kind of an unconfident way she told me i was kind of long. Now, i know she was smart enough to not want to bruise my ego by saying i was average or small. Something in the way she said it made me doubtful of her sincerity. Well fast forward to the next girl i dated who was a very innocent girl. She was a virgin though i believe she may have \"messed around\" with some guys before me. She was inexperienced and thought i was big but i think to this virgin any guy would\'ve felt big. Well we dated for years into college and we started to get distance between us. She was Hanging with a new crowd of what i would consider \"snobby\" people which sort of made sense as she was a bit superficial. Well the incident that sort of killed my confidence was we were in the shower together and being a young man i pretty much always had a hardon if we were naked together. As we were switching from me being under shower to her my hardon bumped her and trying to be silly i said excuse me. Pretty quickly after that she replied \"its not that big\". This was a shift in what i thought she thought. Now i don\'t know if she was just saying its not huge or if she was actually saying i\'m below average. Needless to say, it affected my psychy. Not too long after that i found out from her that she had \"kissed\" this guy that i knew was after her and of course he was from this new crowd she was Hanging with. Fast foward a bit and we got in a fight and broke up. Later from a very good friend of mine who was dating a girl that i also knew and considered a friend informed me that she had cheated on me with that guy that she had \"kissed\". My friends partied with this new crowd and apparently everybody in that group new what was up and of course i was the idiot who didn\'t know. So seeds of doubt were planted at that point where i\'m not sure whether the \"comment\" in the shower was in reference to the fact that she had been with this other guy who was similar or bigger then me. I just don\'t know. We\'ll fast forward again to the women i ended up marrying. Now she may just be more mature and not interested in the size topic but she has never once commented on my size. I know she has more experience then me and even let slip very early in our dating about times in her life where she didn\'t have a lot of self respect and i\'m guessing slept around a bit. This has led me to again dwell on the thought that if she has no comment then i\'m definitely not standing out to her in any way. She\'s commented on other features of mine like a nice ass and being thin but never about my penis. As this is the woman i love more then anything i also want to feel like i\'m her alpha man and also the biggest one she\'s been with. And again i got to hear through my wife about a friend of hers who was about to be married and concerned about the size of her fiancee since he was big. I replied that to a virgin an average guy might seem big and she told me that she had messed around with guys just not sex. I\'m guessing this was to say that she knew what big was. Later i got to meet this newly married couple; and i couldn\'t help but think that this girl was talking to my wife about her mans big Dick and wish that my wife had the same thing to reply about her husband; me. Which of course wasn\'t anything she informed me of and i\'m guessing was commented on. Other then the distorted things that porn do for us regular guys as far as the whole size comment these are the things i can think of that have led to my self-image issues with regard to my penis size.

Skeptical One wrote:

New1inch wrote: @ scepticalone they have snugger fitting condoms out there. I use Crown Skinless Skin codoms... their AMAZING!! and once you get going you can barley feel its there.

There are, but thank goodness I no longer have to use them. I\'m over 6 weeks post-op from my Girth procedure and can now comfortably use Regular condoms now woohoo!

hey so do you think the Girth makes up for the short length?

@New1inch
Girth is what they want, length only modifies the impression of thrust, which can be easily compensated by pacing or well inspired rhythmic shifts. Even Girth can be compensated to an extent if you can overwhelm them in other ways so that they wind up contracting madly against you. It does work even if only in special circumstances where all the parameters are right from sentiment and romance to physical arousal and blazing sensation. Length is mostly for a \"totem\" virtue of the Phallus symbol which some girls tend to venerate (and even some guys on PE forums lol) while Girth has a far more practical purpose of easily providing that stretch of pleasure which is harder to reach without such means. FWIW
HC

HunkChunk wrote: @New1inch
Girth is what they want, length only modifies the impression of thrust, which can be easily compensated by pacing or well inspired rhythmic shifts. Even Girth can be compensated to an extent if you can overwhelm them in other ways so that they wind up contracting madly against you. It does work even if only in special circumstances where all the parameters are right from sentiment and romance to physical arousal and blazing sensation. Length is mostly for a \"totem\" virtue of the Phallus symbol which some girls tend to venerate (and even some guys on PE forums lol) while Girth has a far more practical purpose of easily providing that stretch of pleasure which is harder to reach without such means. FWIW
HC

Hey thanks..

I figured I would reply even if my story doesn\'t include the sort of \'shit\' some of you guys had to cope with.

I have to say reading it makes me sad and angry at the same time. But also glad that thanks to SO there is a place to talk, get support and hopefully find solutions.

I had a 7*5 Cock which most girls I have been with either commented on positively or didn\'t comment on but found sex enjoyable. I am a little bit cheeky generally and got a lot of girls due to my forward nature and I guess being 6\'4 and 220-260lb (depending on what I was competing in) also helped. I was however aware that my big physical size did raise expectations and although I cant say I had a big problem I certainly in hind sight can see that I always made sure to lower expectations so when we got down they got pleasantly surprised and even though it was big.

In fact to some girls the length was more than enough and I have had at least a couple that struggled (that was during my Asian phase) in the right position I have bumped into many cervix\'s.

Talking of cheek and lowering expectations I did used to use various lines to do it. So if a girl started to egg me on a bit and saying things like I bet you have a really big one. I would say stuff like...well lets see what your pussy says and if doubt lets ask you bum hole! Or if I felt someone would ask more as a taunt I would say hey its big enough!...Unless of course you have a bucket between your legs...That would make them think again lol.
Or I would say look I am tall and I have 31 Inch thighs so no it doesn\'t look big on me.....but put it on this guys body and it would be massive (pointing out at a smaller guy). or, Big? dunno not sure but I would probably be huge in Japan and average in Africa.
You know basically just using with to fend of getting a complex.

But I did always dream of getting a bigger Cock to \'square the circle..\'
and as I have pretty much everything I could want in life the urge to try out being the complete package came back.

So after lots of research on macrolane (around that time I exchange emails with the core of msn (including Mike Hook) and finally chose FFT.

I felt safe doing it after a consultation with DR VIel and Also felt good knowing that should shit happen I would have enough support to go through it as all other parts of my life was great. FFT done correctly is relatively safe and the complications minor.

Not really satisfied although quite happy to now be at least 5.5 and also bigger Flaccid I was invited to join Phallo boards 1.0 and the rest they say is history.

May we all find peace and happiness on this subject.

@Justabitmore
FFT sounds good if you don\'t mind the fact that it tends to resorb over time more than PMMA and that its collagen formation might be slightly less resilient? I guess like any procedure it all boils down to the doctor\'s skill and the patients configuration and response to the techniques used.
For others here I haven\'t had issues with my size at least overtly when it came to women. However I know indirectly - call it intuition as you may - that I have lost at least a few to men who were better endowed while they had neither charm or charisma nor better looks or social status, just some strange reason that lured them away. I took the hint by the words and actions when they left me although I wasn\'t a slacker when it came to sleepless nights of constant attention.
However I recently renewed with a former girlfriend from my youth and she noted my complaints about that young girl I\'m hooked on who tends to go for ethnic types usually of African origins. She said it\'s a myth that black men have larger shlongs, something which sounded like she had had plenty of time to check out for herself. She is a woman of experience and always had a flock of suitors waiting in line. Her looks, character and incredible personality gave her the pick of any man in town. If anyone knows she does.
But she did read into my comments and from the bitter way I expressed them noted that it wasn\'t as simple as all that. We were teenagers together both in love and those were days one remained a virgin at an age such as that. We had what I can only call sex by kissing so erotically that for neither of us nothing has since ever matched this. Yet no sexual contact. When we were 25 we got together again but I was having a hard time recovering from the loss of the love of my life and she pretended she had herself another man she loved.... out of spite. We even spent a night in bed but she wouldn\'t make love, so we just laid there together talking and hugging until we finally passed out.
Last week we found out we were both for the first time since that both in town, and got together two days before I was on my way to see Dr C. We had dinner both remaining evenings but agreed to postpone more serious aspects of the encounter until I return in September... and she said regarding my earlier comments \"If I understand from your comments earlier you are quite small?\" I said that we shouldn\'t exxagerate or jump to conclusions but was taken aback by her frankness which I think was to get this out of the way. She also called my convertible sports car my \"man\'s penis\" which is a way of implying I must be compensating as she says most men do with their penile hangups.
So I don\'t know if she thinks guys are dumb to be so Dick focused or whether having had her pick of so many has her own needs and requirements which make her jostle me thus. Possibly she is exacting revenge at my earlier infliction on her of my devotion to that other woman who had dumped me, when she herself had stronger feelings for me than she cared to reveal. After all I was broke and depressed and she\'d take me out to dinner all the time.
In any case this is a very unusual situation burdened with decades of curiosity and expectations, and I do hope that although I made no Girth requests of Dr C that I will be at least enhanced enough to please a woman of discriminating taste and vast sexual experience. My favorite result will be that she moves on to another topic, such as how great it is to be together at last, with that penile organ taking a back seat to other aspects of a fulfilling relationship...
HC

A couple of members have asked, so copied from the old site:

My story: I got to the PE forums due to a concern about falling Erection quality (EQ). As I got to late-30s, 3 years post-divorce, I started to notice a loss in EQ during sex and as soon as I ejaculated the little guy turtled and went fast asleep. I tend to date the 30 something crowd (and occasionally the 20 something) I did not want to get on the Vitamin-V train so I decided to investigate alternatives.

In all honesty I did not have a big concern about my penis size, I always considered myself a very average guy, not small. I am Erect 6.25” long and 4.75” mid Girth. I am also 5’10” and 175 lbs so definitely Mr. average, at least in the US. I played soccer, track, and swam in high school and played soccer in college and so have been in plenty of locker rooms. I am a Grower and can shrink down to 2” to 3” Flaccid but there are all different sizes in the locker room so I was not really overly concerned. The truth is that I was such a Horn dog in high school that any chance I got to have sex, I took it. The little head just took over and whatever insecurities the big head may have had was shut down from lack of oxygen!

Luckily I had one very good experience in high school which helped put things in perspective. I was Hanging out with a couple of guys from the soccer team when we bumped into a former teammate who had graduated 2 years earlier. He was Hanging out with a group of even older girls. Long story short we ended up back at his girlfriend’s apt. When all we paired up it was pretty obvious that the girl who got me drew the short straw, after all I weighed ~130 lbs, so pretty scrawny. My teammate who came with us was 6’2” and a muscular 195 so he got the hot blond. Skipping ahead I got the girl I was with to change her attitude by starting with a foot massage since she was complaining that her feet hurt. We were in the kitchen in the corner and could hear them starting to go at it on the sofa in the living room. After a minute or so I heard her say “slow down, slow down” then a low grunt and he came. This repeated 2 more times over the next 20 minutes. In our corner, whether from listening to them, foot massage or my sad puppy dog face, my girl (who I later found out was 26 with a kid) decided to do it as long as she was on top. She then proceeded to grind out 2 loud Os, and I mean grind, my pubic bone was sore the next day. The cute blond was very pissed with my teammate I later found out.

The kicker, my teammate had the biggest Dick in the locker room.

I guess the truth is that I have never been told I am small or rejected by a woman. I have been pretty successful with women; I made my century as the Brits would say before I turned 30. My only bout with insecurity occurred in college when I got into adult films and became convinced that if I had John Holmes Dick I would be so much better as a lover, despite a string of GF telling me I was nuts. Eventually I listened to the reality of the data.

The thing I am struggling with is I never considered PE or thought I was “small” until I got on the PE sites (PEGym, Thunders, and this one). Most members are talking about 6” or 7” Inch girths and the magic 8” x 6”. Now I find myself seriously considering first Alloderm and now ppma.