TOPIC: Wife/GF/SO Girth thread Continuation

I don\'t know. I think it\'s pretty close. They prefer 7.5 to 8\" long, and between 6 and 6.5 in Girth. That seems spot on to me.

Women have no clue what an 8x6 is. A guy with a 6.5\" can convince a woman he\'s packing an 8-incher, and it\'s even much harder assessing an estimate on Girth. We all know women and \"eyeing size\" is an incredibly imperfect science. And some of the \"average\" range is considered \"unenjoyable\" though many men possess the size, seems like nature had many normal men doomed from the start?

Rest assured, the graph is as obviously hoax as a graph can get.

I disagree with that. If you have a clue of what an 8 x 6 is, why wouldn\'t a woman? That\'s ridiculous. I think nature was designed to reproduce - not satisfy the woman - and if there was a plan to it, than there was a sick sense of humor involved with the planning. lol

Big John wrote: I disagree with that. If you have a clue of what an 8 x 6 is, why wouldn\'t a woman? That\'s ridiculous. I think nature was designed to reproduce - not satisfy the woman - and if there was a plan to it, than there was a sick sense of humor involved with the planning. lol

Most men don\'t. Have you seen people guessing porn star sizes? There is a huge divergence in opinion. Some people think Mandingo is 11\", whilst others argue as little as 8\". On Thundersplace there are often photo threads where members ask others to guess their size and so often they are miles off.

On LPSG, a site with a hell of a lot of gay men, who see a hell of a lot of dicks, there was a thread discussing how rare it is in real life to come across a 7\" long penis. Most women really aren\'t the Cock hungry sluts that PE forums often make them seem. Most women haven\'t slept with that many men, let alone measured many penis\'s.

On PEgym they have a section where female answer questions. The women on PE forums really do have a better perception of size. From what I\'ve read of PEgym I\'d say the preference there is about 7\" by 5.5\". But guys here would be resist accepting that. The reason is basic psychology. We all have insecurities in life and we look to counter these with things that give us confidence. Most of the guys here get a massive self confidence boost by believing a big penis is very important to women, as it is something they can achieve with little effort. At the end of the day it\'s far easier to pop across to Mexico and get PMMA, than it is to be tall, in good shape, handsome, charming and a multi millionaire.

True, but there are a lot of women married to tall, handsome, rich husbands and have a large NSA buddy on the side. That\'s a true statement. I know women who have even left the same for a much more humble life with a well endowed guy. Regardless of the debate, size definitely matters to more women than we like to believe. I am the whole package. Good looking, physically fit, well educated, financially well off, well traveled, confident to the point of cocky, etc.... Add the small Dick and you just went from hero to zero. The only reason I\'ve gone down this path brother. If the size had only come up once in my life, no biggee. It came up repeatedly and devastated me. I know from my experience it\'s very real.

Big John wrote: True, but there are a lot of women married to tall, handsome, rich husbands and have a large NSA buddy on the side. That\'s a true statement. I know women who have even left the same for a much more humble life with a well endowed guy. Regardless of the debate, size definitely matters to more women than we like to believe. I am the whole package. Good looking, physically fit, well educated, financially well off, well traveled, confident to the point of cocky, etc.... Add the small Dick and you just went from hero to zero. The only reason I\'ve gone down this path brother. If the size had only come up once in my life, no biggee. It came up repeatedly and devastated me. I know from my experience it\'s very real.

I think the complete opposite is true. I think we all know that size can effect sexual relations, but it matters far, far less than most on this site think. If size were anywhere near as important to women as is often portrayed in your posts, then there would be hetro versions of the gay scene. Size and the physical side of sex is far less important for women than for men. For women the emotional side is more important. The trouble is men are unable to empathize with that and struggle to believe that women don\'t judge sexual partners in the same way we do.


I\'ve got to say John, you\'ve lived the most bizarre life in terms of sexual experiences. It\'s just so out of sync with anyone I\'ve met or read about. You mentioned above you are cocky at times and I think that might have far more to do with your negative experiences than your actual size. Women can be cruel and know what hurts guys. Both men and women find it far easier to be rude or cruel to people the perceive as cocky or arrogant. It\'s not that rare for a guy of your original dimensions to have had the odd negative comment about their size, though it isn\'t the norm. Most never hear anything negative. I never have and my stats are very similar and I\'ve slept with about 50 girls. But you\'ve said today and mentioned in the past, that you\'ve had lots of negative size based comments. I know this sounds very harsh on you as a person, but I think you have to start wondering if it was less to do with your penis and more to do with you personality. I apologize if that offends you and I certainly don\'t mean to upset you, but when you look at your sexual past compared to others, then it must at least make you wonder why you seem to be more of a target for unkindness than other similarly endowed men.

I agree with bigjohn and hoddle. Just depends on the situation. I\'ve dated and slept with many women. Well over 100. I would say most of the women \"prefer\" a bigger penis. I\'ve had a lot of comments like, \"Surprised I got off that fast\" \"I usually don\'t get off during sex\" \"The only other guy who got me off was huge.\" Basically, nice ways of saying you don\'t have a big penis. However, when I got to know them more and they opened up they said, \"I guess size doesn\'t matter.\" So, maybe I was just good in bed and the average penis size did the trick.

However, after getting round 1 done I heard different comments. They were more about how they liked my penis. Before round 1 = \"I love having sex with you.\" After round 2 = \"You have a really nice penis.\" I feel that somehow they contribute the good sex to my penis now and not my skills. I\'m building the house the same, but have a different hammer. Take my experience as you will.

@Bigjohn


We have an idea of what 8x6 might be because we obsess over dimensions (on sites like this) all the time. Women, on the other hand, don\'t. This all goes back to the \"does size matter\" debate, and I think the answer has always been \"yes & no.\" Like imbignow said, a lot of times it can be circumstantial. It can depend on the woman (and her anatomy). And all sorts of other factors.

I wont deny that for many women there could be a preference for a larger penis. However, how strong that preference is, and how it is prioritized in a woman\'s criteria of vetting a partner might not be as strong as we think. Much like guys... a cousin of mine loves curvy women with big rears but ended up marrying a petite woman. While he may have had his preferences, her body type clearly wasn\'t a deal breaker.

I finally sent a pic to a woman I\'ve been conversing with for almost a month now. We have a strong emotional connection and find each other attractive. Our relationship has developed without ever meeting to the point that sex is going to happen right when we meet. After she got the pic she went nuts. She\'s been non stop playing with herself while looking at my picture. She told me I am huge and at the top of my gene pool. She has been very specific about what she wants to do with that big thing between my legs. She now calls me Big J, lol!!!, and says I\'m Texas sized. This is merely from one Erect picture. I plan to play alot this year so I\'ll keep the forum updated but her reactions confirm my belief that women prefer a large penis. More info - she is 42, 5\'5\", 118 lbs, two kids, and somewhat experienced.

The arrogance remark is possible but in my relationships I was always caring and true. After the first couple of experiences with my size being an issue, I probably got oversensitive and really watched for it. But I did the cyber skin extender experiment with the blindfold on the girls and I can still see them holding my little package afterwards and wondering how it managed to do to them what it did. Put the perfect guy with a 5x5 and his clone with an 8x6, everything else being the same, and the woman is going to take home the big boy everytime. I really believe that to be true. I have just about eliminated the possibility of a woman saying I am too small ever again. If she does, than she needs to go find mandigo, or someone similar and I won\'t lose any sleep over it.

Big John wrote: The arrogance remark is possible but in my relationships I was always caring and true. After the first couple of experiences with my size being an issue, I probably got oversensitive and really watched for it. But I did the cyber skin extender experiment with the blindfold on the girls and I can still see them holding my little package afterwards and wondering how it managed to do to them what it did. Put the perfect guy with a 5x5 and his clone with an 8x6, everything else being the same, and the woman is going to take home the big boy everytime. I really believe that to be true. I have just about eliminated the possibility of a woman saying I am too small ever again. If she does, than she needs to go find mandigo, or someone similar and I won\'t lose any sleep over it.

I bet that is true the majority of cases. I don\'t doubt size plays a big role in sex. But your experiences do seem way out of kilter with anything else I\'ve come across and it leads me to think that this is almost certainly why you personally view size as way more important to women than it really is. It may be a bonus in the bedroom, but is way down the list of the things most important to women.

I prefer big, perky boobs to smaller, saggy looking things. But I\'d never tell a woman that or make any negative comments unless she had something about her that made me want to be unkind. I know guys like to claim women are cruel, but lets be real here, they are no worse than guys. I\'ve never had a negative comment and I read all the time about smaller guys who never have negative comments. Believe me, my deformed little willy, is certainly worthy of comment! But if I\'d actually be surprised if a woman actually did ever say anything to me, as it\'s obvious it would hurt or humiliate me and I don\'t think I ever do anything that would cause for them to do this.

I know it sounds like I\'m having a real go at your personality, but in general I\'m not. I can tell from your posts your a good guy and I enjoy reading what you have to say. But I do think there has to be something in the way you behave around women, that makes them want to be cruel to you. At the end of the day your negative comment experiences seem way in excess of anything else and so it would seem logical that more is at play here than you having an average size penis. Again I\'m not criticizing you as a person, but something is amiss here.

Hoddle 10,
I hear you loud and clear. It\'s more than that. I really believe that obviously. I know some really good guys whose wives have stepped out for the size. They weren\'t sleeping around with the little guy. I\'ve heard women talk about it. Hell, it\'s even on the radio and advertising now. The girl I was seeing this summer, post PMMA, would go on and on about guys with little packages and how she couldn\'t even feel them and why even bother having sex. I think most girls, kind ones, would never intentionally hurt a man that was good, but it doesnt change what they are thinking or feeling inside about something else. Boob size and penis size have no correlation. One is visually stimulating, the other is physically stimulating. Big difference! I\'ll update the forum this winter as I gain experience with a bigger package.

PS. I enjoy your postings as well.

Big John wrote: . Put the perfect guy with a 5x5 and his clone with an 8x6, everything else being the same, and the woman is going to take home the big boy everytime.

This is the #1 myth perpetrated by insecure men on PE sites. It just does not work that way.

The human vagina is not like a dimmer switch where applying more size creates more pleasure. It is more like a light switch. As long as the size is within the range the light will go on. Applying more pressure des not make the light go brighter.

In fact all the studies say that for most women, after trying both, the choice would be the 5x5 because it would be more comfortable! Of course there are size queens but I will leave those to you.

\"Quote:Originally Posted by Big John
. Put the perfect guy with a 5x5 and his clone with an 8x6, everything else being the same, and the woman is going to take home the big boy every time. Quote\"

Some how I feel we are living in opposite worlds. I have 100% experienced what Big John is saying, with multiple girls. I was good in bed before the PMMA, I am the same guy now, do less work with my PMMA penis and the girls love it and come multiple times...the same girls who had my 5\" Girth pre PMMA...What I am to conclude?

AGAIN, this is my experience, I have to believe others experience is quite the apposite and it makes no sense to me why we have opposite contradicting results...some thing is terribly wrong here!

Have any of you guys watched the \"My penis and I\" and \"My penis and everyone elses\" documentaries? Somewhat off of the subject, but I think they would be worth a watch for guys who haven\'t seen them.