TOPIC: Just had a pretty nightmarish situation re: dick size

It\'s not gay guys that are obsessed with penis size, it\'s guys in general. It\'s just with gay men the obsession manifests into a sexual desire. Most of the guys on this forum tend to be hetro, yet it\'s clear even among us having a big Dick is seen as a trophy or sign of alpha masculinity. Straight men worship big Cock as much as gays. It\'s just we worship our own. The fact that penis size seems so much more important to straight men than women and that we find it almost impossible to believe they don\'t want as big as possible, shows that we have the same predisposition with penis size as gay men do.

Yeah that\'s an interesting observation hoddle. You\'re right I think. It\'s exhausting to in the kind of culture where an Inch is more important than about 10 other factors (even looks, education, income, etc) - for gay guys at least. Not all - but most.

Thanks Mustang - yeah I think this may be a bit exaggerated...and PMMA is not that much further away so all of this crap will eventually be a thing of the past...I think on the 5th anniversay of my Peyronie\'s diagnosis, I will have the Dick I started with - maybe even plus some Girth. I just really hope I don\'t react badly to PMMA after all this.

Damn that was a long original post...I just never had such a fucked up thing happen to me over Dick size before.

To start, sorry to hear this. I am a straight male interested in PMMA. I\'ve had plenty of one-night stands and one relationship for 6 months that she elected to end. I\'ve been preoccupied with my penis-size since middle school. I always speculated it was on the smaller side, and then enter my first sexual experience. I remember losing my virginity at 18 and being told, \"it\'s a little small, but we\'ll work on it.\" A more promiscuous girl in college who gave me head a few times told me, \"length is fine, but it\'s a little skinny.\" My EXGF said, \"it\'s a little narrow.\" These reoccurring comments throughout my life have devastated my confidence. I\'m 4.5 MG, 5BG, 6.2L with small glans. I\'m sure the other women have refrained from expressing their thoughts. I refuse to accept the reality that I am below average, and that there is no safe way to resolve the inadequacy. I\'m not in pursuit of perfection; my only desire is to be average! The reality of simple physics along with a seemingly general consensus is often hard for me to accept. I cannot imagine how I would feel if I were to hear those comments \"unfiltered\" as you experienced. For the sake of everyone who is contemplating undertaking PMMA, please document your story to your greatest ability. Best of luck to you!

It\'s funny, I always thought 4.5 Girth was basically fine...and that was my old size before PD. I did think it was on the thin side, but I didn\'t think I could really do anything about it so I tried not to think about it. When more internet porn became accessible to everyone, I started to get a little more insecure. And hooking up, I never got that insecure about the Girth thing cuz guys weren\'t usually longer than me & if they were thicker, I was usually longer. So, I won 1 way or another. But, with women - it\'s a whole different thing & I know they need more Girth, etc... Aside from sex, 5\" does look a lot better than 4.5 - even in that small increase makes a big difference visually I think. Anyway, It seems like a lot of guys here with 4.5 were a lot happier after PMMA. The chart that is out there in the threads doesn\'t even show anyone under 4.5 I don\'t think. I\'ll be the first...lol (4\" at the top though it doesn\'t look that way in the photo really...how many trips to TJ will turn that into 5\"?).

So much crap has gone through my head since those comments. I mean, he was an early 20s closet case...who I never should have hooked up with from the start...and he was nervous and weird here...so I should\'ve been like - aright thanks - there\'s the door... if I only knew what I was really dealing with - but he just was nearby and sorta good looking. So, I figured what the hell. But, younger guys (and closeted ones) are always a problem in one way or another... the last time I went younger by this much, I got crabs. Seriously - there\'s a sex & the city episode where the same thing happened too.

He\'s also just an idiot. I just need to say that (agian). For someone so \"in the closet\" (who \"likes girls\" on facebook & has a ton of pics with his bros) - he gave me way too much personal information about himself. I don\'t plan to do anything with it (I do have a small Dick - what am I gonna be mad at him about at this point).

A year ago, I was in Europe and I had the hottest possible hook up to-date...and I had the same Dick (with the insane curve) - but nobody is Circumcised there - so he was like obsessed with my Dick for an hour. I think younger guys (and possibly even us on this board and younger females) are more porn influenced...e.g., my worst European hook up was also in his 20s. A 20-something whose only exposure to guys is porn & the occasional \"discrete\" (sic) hookup can\'t let me change my opinion about anything. He\'s an idiot. But my Dick is also small. Well whatever, I already hooked up w/ someone else who was way hotter & had no problem at all...and again, shorter than me...lol. But Girth is king.

Yeah, grindr crap can be pretty ridiculous. I don\'t don\'t like guys who are overly emphasized on Dick size, so if their second question is \'Hung?\' I always answer I\'m alright or above average. I don\'t like dic pics anymore, if I\'m just looking to top I don\'t care and the surprise is sorta hot.

This means when I\'m in the states dealing with guys my own age, 20\'s jock types raised on gaybro-ness I basically only hookup with the \'pure\' bottom guys as they seem to be the only guys secure at that age to not be overly obsessive with penis size. The vers, or \'masc top\' guys are too annoying to deal with, so I usually just ignore.

Luckily in Asia I don\'t get dicpics demanded alot as they all just assume you\'re decently big, and a 16cm counts as \'hung\' or whatever.

If you wanna talk gay stuff feel free to message me man.

Thanks jlmb - I read your thread & it was really impressive...your gains are incredible. The one thing I was confused about...it says you started at 4.5 EG (the bold on the first page of the log)? And then you were 5.7 EG after the first session - or did I miss something? How have things held up since you started?

How have guys treated u differently? I\'m extremely curious about this. Very few people get to be on both sides. Why don\'t you like Dick pics? If I had your Dick, I would walk around handing out photos...till I got arrested.

Btw, in my experience, the \"pure bottoms\" are the worst size queens of all (despite the insanity of >5.5 EG with anal). The situation that made me start this thread was with one of those...and younger guys seem to be worse.

Hung? Masc? Top? Looking? Host? Face? Dick? is basically the entirety of grindr. It\'s ruining bar interactions...and normal social behavior in general with the gays IMO.

Hey Restoration - second on stay away from Grindr. I tried it for a week or two about two years ago. One time someone who was on it was in the same room as I was, lol (I was at the gym and this is NYC). I felt really stupid after that and got off.
Sorry about what happened to you - I\'ve never seen it come back like that in a text. Once I sent a Dick pic of me and it went to my single 60 year old female neighbor by accident. The worst part was she didn\'t get it was a mistake right away and looked hurt when I told her it was meant for a guy and I was very sorry. Not sure what this has to do with your post but you have my support - young gay guys can be bitches.

Yeah the gym is a dangerous place for grindr (or a good place if things go well). That\'s insane you sent a pic to your neighbor! Aw man - that\'s terrible. Thank god I have never done that, though there are way too many dicks on my phone album to let anyone hold it aside from me... people have looked at my pics over my shoulder and inevitably some penis pops up in there. Or, some random guy\'s pic.

I really appreciate your post & everyone else above. I think this whole thing made me 10/10 psycho angry for like 1 day and it started to fade - and since I am insecure in some obvious ways - I had sex with some other people (yeah that was playing with fire) & that was all fine & they were like begging me to fuck them (go figure...maybe it\'s easier to fit in...it\'s a beginner\'s Dick...). One of them handed me a magnum, and i was like - uh, thanks for the flattery but... I need to get something from my coat (lifestyles snugger fit condoms...good for 4.5 EG or less.)

Yeah, guys in the 20s arent\' for me... i typically have gone out with 30+ ... it\'s a very big gap. I mean, when I was in college, we just started getting the internet... that really changed the world & way people behave. People who have grown up with IMs and chat and grindr as their first gay social experience are just a bit messed up. It\'s kinda sad actually. Some of my favorite bars suck now - just a bunch of guys looking at their phones.

Yeah I initially noted that I was 4.5\" but I think it was closer to 4.75\", initially gained a solid Inch after round 1, then it sorta decreased a bit. I\'m six months after round three now and am at ~6.35\" to 6.5-75\" with Cock ring (almost ever sex time).

Dick pics can be okay, its just I don\'t like hooking up with people that are really into Dick size and stuff, like if I get someone who is obsessing about my big Dick and being too verbal about it it can be a bit of a turn off. I think I just prefer to have someone not have over expectations of my Cock, and I think Dick pics and stats are pretty boring and ruin the hotness of it. I like someone being hot and into me without knowing my Dick, and having my Dick being like the extra surprise or something, haha. However I like the increased attention in public nudity situations, so I\'m a bit contradictory. I live in Asia where everyone just assumes white guys have big junk, so its not quite a transformative experience.

I do think my size is at the max for anal, I\'d say I have trouble with about 50% of the guys initially, but can work through it most times, depending on their patience and such. I still want a final 10% round to sort of smooth everything out, but wouldn\'t want much more gain.

Ahh, okay. That does make his actions slightly less outlandish. He was still a jerk, though, haha. Glad you have been able to move on from that.