TOPIC: My depression and social anxiety: Help appreciated

tom kat wrote: hey meeb,

Personally, I think 6\'\' Girth would still look aeshetically good for 5.3\'\' length (maybe others can say what they think about that), It will make you look very thick, and you can still gain additional length if you want.

When i move, I plan on staying for a solid 2 years, but upto 5 if i have to ( I have worked out average accomodation and living expensies, and I should have the money I need in 2 or 3 years, I really hope that i don\'t have to stay for longer than 2 years, as eventhough I will have the money, it will mean that once i am finished I will basically have no money or savings left after the protocol and will have to start saving all over again once I return to australia , But i am willing to do this 100% but it will set me back big time, financially

thanks for your sympathies re my anxiety, you have mine too mate. Take care!

Hearing 6 Inch Girth does give me a bit of hope. Maybe I should start looking at getting it done soon and doing more research on it. Gaining additional length would be great, hopefully that chem PE thing is great. Or if I can get over hard Flaccid one day, I can get an extender or something.

Sounds like you have a great plan mate. Fingers crossed that it will all work out. Are you planning to get a green card and trying to work while you are there? I think it will all be worth it in the end, given you will have the increased self confidence. The money can replenish itself, if you are anything like me, I would give up all my money for a bigger Dick

thanks meeb. So far I am not planning on working while I am over there. As I doubt I would even get a job (as i have no qualifications, and the only real job i have done is working in a sewer lol), So i was just thinking of staying home all day and focusing on the program ( you have to do about 3-5 mins of light stretching spread evenly throught the day for a total of 20-30 mins, plus you have to apply a cream to your penis 6-7 times a day, and you have to inject something in your penis for a 2-3 hour Erection ( about 50-70% of a full Erection) so I think it would be best if i just focus my whole energy on that. And yeah, I would give all my cash for a bigger Dick too lol.

tom kat wrote: thanks meeb. So far I am not planning on working while I am over there. As I doubt I would even get a job (as i have no qualifications, and the only real job i have done is working in a sewer lol), So i was just thinking of staying home all day and focusing on the program ( you have to do about 3-5 mins of light stretching spread evenly throught the day for a total of 20-30 mins, plus you have to apply a cream to your penis 6-7 times a day, and you have to inject something in your penis for a 2-3 hour Erection ( about 50-70% of a full Erection) so I think it would be best if i just focus my whole energy on that. And yeah, I would give all my cash for a bigger Dick too lol.

Sounds like you would make a fair bit working in a sewer. I think you\'d be able to get some sort of job just to ease up the financial pressure. But the chem PE does sound extremely intensive. Completely understandable why you would want to do that full time. Does this mean you are not really interested in PMMA injections?

Its not that much, only 25 an hour, and it is only casual so some days i don\'t get called in at all and other day i can work 16 hours strait. There is another waste management company that pays its workers 37 an hour (but i was only able to get this job because my dad is friends with the boss so he was able to get me in, I doubt i would get in the other company even if i applied).

btw, the only reason i am doing that job is so i can make money faster so i can do Chem pe as soon as possible (probably 2 or 3 years from now), as before this i was doing a 3 year apprenticeship and was only getting 10 an hour, and i realised that it will take way longer for me to save up the money i needed so that is why I chose to leave and start this job. literally every decision i make is related to my penis. i regret leaving my other job because i really enjoyed it (and i actually had a few friends there), but this way i will be able to do chem pe way sooner than if i stayed there earning so little (even if this is an awful job).

I still plan on getting PMMA, but I wanted to do Chem Pe first so i can reach my length goals first. My plan is to do chem pe for length and then PMMA for Girth (even though you can still do chem pe with PMMA, I really want to achieve the length first)

Ideally I would like length first too. But since I am in this fucked up state, I would take the PMMA for Girth which would increase my Flaccid size. Your plans sounds pretty good. Hopefully it all goes well.

If you are willing to share, what is your size stats?

meeb, I think you should get PMMA first as this seems to be greatly impacting you life. You can always gain length after getting the PMMA (whether that be Chem Pe or an extender), but in the meantime you will still have a fat Dick and bigger Flaccid (as well as still having a decent Erect length). I will send you a PM in a moment.

ps. my current size is about 6.25 length (non pressed) and 5.3 Girth (at the thickest point, just above mid way).

PMMA helps you with a heavy Flaccid hang also? So your Dick would point down more and turtle less?

Hey Friend face, from almost all reports I have read and pictures i have seen, yes PMMA will make you flaccid hang better and heavier (and retract less when you turtle, when you would normally shrivel right up, pmma prevents it to a great extent). Check out this helpful thread, phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/has...04236#post1285504236

tom kat wrote: meeb, I think you should get PMMA first as this seems to be greatly impacting you life. You can always gain length after getting the PMMA (whether that be Chem Pe or an extender), but in the meantime you will still have a fat Dick and bigger Flaccid (as well as still having a decent Erect length). I will send you a PM in a moment.

ps. my current size is about 6.25 length (non pressed) and 5.3 Girth (at the thickest point, just above mid way).

I replied to your pm mate.

I probably sound like a hypocrite but your stats are great! Were you doing manual PE before hand? If you were, what were your stats before you gained.

I\'ve never done PE, however I am considering using an extender only lightly for 4 hours a day up until I can do chem pe (so i would be able to get a good 2 years of extending in so hopefully I could gain at LEAST 0.5\'\' length before I start chem pe) 4 hours is all i would be able to fit in, as i would only be able to do it at home, my job is just too physical for it to stay on. but i am still undecided if I should or shouldn\'t.

Hi Meeb, being outside and being physically active, in good shape and interacting with friends will likely also improve your situation. And what better place to do those things than Australia. I would suggest questioning the intent and/or mental stability of the people who made fun of you, there are lots of arseholes running around, don\'t feed into it.

ArcticSky wrote: Hi Meeb, being outside and being physically active, in good shape and interacting with friends will likely also improve your situation. And what better place to do those things than Australia. I would suggest questioning the intent and/or mental stability of the people who made fun of you, there are lots of arseholes running around, don\'t feed into it.

Great advice I suffered from mental abuse at that age and it can do a lot of damage particularly when your just starting to grow into a man.

Greetings Meeb from a fellow Ozi. After reading your post, I can empathise with you and try to make some comments that I hope are helpful.

While its normal for any man to have a large part of his sense of self-esteem or self-worth tied to the state of his manhood, overhearing a few people making negative comments shouldn\'t alone take you from \"a fairly confident and cheerful individual\" to \"my self esteem is 0 (negative if possible),\" unless ALL of your sense of self is downstairs, which it clearly isn\'t. So you must have other issues that you\'re not wanting to or willing to discuss, and I wish you luck and good progress with your psychologist.

Sometimes just having a qualified listener can make a big difference. I once saw a Scottish psychologist about an issue and she was amazing. She wasn\'t able to give me that much advice, or tell me much that I didn\'t already know, yet she was a good psychologist and the few sessions I had with her were very cathartic and helpful. I was finally able to make changes to my ways of thinking and be \"okay\" again.

As for your actual penis size. It\'s totally \"normal\", so at least 50% of all men in the world share the same size as you!

Many people try to feel better in themselves by putting others down. This is a very common practice, but it only provides short-term relief because they have not at all addressed their own issue(s). Instead they\'ve taken the easy way out by projecting onto someone else. I have experienced this many times, often from people who are jealous of my own success, or from people who are simply negative about themselves and life and the only way they know is to put others down. Many people do this quite unconsciously.

So its helpful to know that the comments these people have made, are not really a reflection on you. In fact some of these people may even be smaller than you (assuming they are males). Some could even be stuffing socks down their pants. There are several methods you can employ to boost your sense of confidence and self-esteem that will make you far less reactionary when it comes to how much emotion you give to the opinions of \"others\". You\'d be surprised how many people say they don\'t care what other people think, but with some simply observation its easy to see that they are actually very concerned about what others think - some are even obsessed about it.

As for the bulge in your pants. Many men are above average yet show no bulge in their pants. Ask yourself certain questions - What are you trying to prove? Who are you wanting to impress? Will a bigger bulge in my pants really help? Do what you want to make yourself bigger downstairs, but keep in mind that this is only one part. Don\'t ignore other aspects of your physical or mental self.

If you are wanting a meaningful relationship with a nice girl, as opposed to hitting the clubs and finding a fuck buddy, then you should appreciate that the vast majority of women are far more concerned about your personality, your looks and general physique than how much bulge your packing. I know many quite beautiful women whose boyfriends are average or even below average in size. In fact, one very pretty Thai friend of mine has even joked with me about the smallish size of her partner, but she laughs and says it makes no difference; she says the sex is very enjoyable and she just loves him.

Best of luck on your journey Meeb - I will follow your progress with interest.

ilovetofu wrote: Greetings Meeb from a fellow Ozi. After reading your post, I can empathise with you and try to make some comments that I hope are helpful.

While its normal for any man to have a large part of his sense of self-esteem or self-worth tied to the state of his manhood, overhearing a few people making negative comments shouldn\'t alone take you from \"a fairly confident and cheerful individual\" to \"my self esteem is 0 (negative if possible),\" unless ALL of your sense of self is downstairs, which it clearly isn\'t. So you must have other issues that you\'re not wanting to or willing to discuss, and I wish you luck and good progress with your psychologist.

Sometimes just having a qualified listener can make a big difference. I once saw a Scottish psychologist about an issue and she was amazing. She wasn\'t able to give me that much advice, or tell me much that I didn\'t already know, yet she was a good psychologist and the few sessions I had with her were very cathartic and helpful. I was finally able to make changes to my ways of thinking and be \"okay\" again.

As for your actual penis size. It\'s totally \"normal\", so at least 50% of all men in the world share the same size as you!

Many people try to feel better in themselves by putting others down. This is a very common practice, but it only provides short-term relief because they have not at all addressed their own issue(s). Instead they\'ve taken the easy way out by projecting onto someone else. I have experienced this many times, often from people who are jealous of my own success, or from people who are simply negative about themselves and life and the only way they know is to put others down. Many people do this quite unconsciously.

So its helpful to know that the comments these people have made, are not really a reflection on you. In fact some of these people may even be smaller than you (assuming they are males). Some could even be stuffing socks down their pants. There are several methods you can employ to boost your sense of confidence and self-esteem that will make you far less reactionary when it comes to how much emotion you give to the opinions of \"others\". You\'d be surprised how many people say they don\'t care what other people think, but with some simply observation its easy to see that they are actually very concerned about what others think - some are even obsessed about it.

As for the bulge in your pants. Many men are above average yet show no bulge in their pants. Ask yourself certain questions - What are you trying to prove? Who are you wanting to impress? Will a bigger bulge in my pants really help? Do what you want to make yourself bigger downstairs, but keep in mind that this is only one part. Don\'t ignore other aspects of your physical or mental self.

If you are wanting a meaningful relationship with a nice girl, as opposed to hitting the clubs and finding a fuck buddy, then you should appreciate that the vast majority of women are far more concerned about your personality, your looks and general physique than how much bulge your packing. I know many quite beautiful women whose boyfriends are average or even below average in size. In fact, one very pretty Thai friend of mine has even joked with me about the smallish size of her partner, but she laughs and says it makes no difference; she says the sex is very enjoyable and she just loves him.

Best of luck on your journey Meeb - I will follow your progress with interest.

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Apologies for the late reply, did not think that this thread would have still been active. Thank you very much for all your replies. My mental state has gotten better, I am more calm and more willing to be in public, though not without the anxiety. Though I have improved, I\'m not at the stage where I am able to work. Hence I have made the decision to do PMMA. I will create a patient log for my PMMA journey.