TOPIC: Let's clarify one thing about size...

Just because men don\'t complain about going \"too big\" doesn\'t mean women don\'t complain about having to deal with them. Heck, some men enjoy seeing a woman struggle to accommodate a size, which in effect can be a complaint by the woman, but not necessarily a complaint by the man. According to posts made (purportedly) by women on non-PE sites, being \"too big\" can pose problems. I wouldn\'t be surprised if some of the experiences here aren\'t entirely forthcoming/accurate as to the range of compliments & complaints received for a big size.
I do believe, however, that most women can accommodate most sizes with the proper preparation & foreplay. Ample lube and a receptive mate can make the challenge of a bigger unit tolerable and even enjoyable. But for your short-term affairs & hookups, I\'d be willing to wager a sizable bet that there is a \"too big\" limit for a good range of women.
And, yes, Shane Diesel & Short Mac are too big for most healthy vaginas, so I\'d like to think the limits do exist (though the limits would be a matter of range rather than a specific size). Most of the girls in Shane or Shorty\'s pornography can\'t take their entire units, and I\'ve seen some where the actress can\'t mask the pain (unless they are acting, but having makeup ruined by tears is impressive acting for an adult industry actress).

Mustang2020 wrote: I will complain about going too big in Girth...mildly ..

When I had the silicone implant, the base Girth was 7.25\" tapering to about 5.5\". This was the perfect Girth for \"Me\" and \"my ladies\". Now after my third PMMA session, the base is 7.5\" and abit more with maximum EQ tapering to about 5.85\". I have had a few encounters where this Girth caused bleeding even with foreplay and KY (and I am not proud of it, I do not like causing pain where pleasure is the goal). But remember I normally prefer pettit and/or Asian women so this for sure plays into my experience.

So, for me, the 7.25\" Girth was ideal, and the 7.5\"+ Girth is going over the top. I suspect however that I will loose some Girth in the coming months after which all will be well. I mean to post soon about my 3RD session but have been busy catching up with work and moving.... Will do soon thu!

The picture below is about 80% Erect..

Didn\'t see your post Mustang, appreciate you sharing this with us. I think it might help put size in perspective for us. And that Girth is lol

@Sizemic
You once had said that for single guys, anything above 6\" EG is massive (correct me if I\'m mistaken), do you still stand by this opinion? Just curious where you stand now since you are one of the bigger members on the board

Mustang, thank you for the great feedback. To clarify: You were regularly entering petite asian women with base of 7.25\", and it fit? Did they have to work up to it? Had some of them never given birth yet?

The last girl I was with was a teenager few years back we were together 2 years. She was not tight at all and only been with 1 other guy. I don\'t find Asian women attractive at all so that won\'t work for me. My Girth is 5 inches but to me that\'s still small to me because I personally seen bigger. With my last girlfriend I count feel her. At that point I knew I may be on the slim side. Also I rock a 5 Inch length Cock. And that\'s 5 inches when I\'m super hard. Normally is just under. Sex is not enjoyable to me with my current length and Girth. I slide out a lot and feel like I\'m fucking nothing but air. The girls I\'m attracted to are not twig sized girls. I like hips and ass. Kim kardashian type girls. If you seen her sex tape youll know she took that big Dick with no problem. And to satisfy the body type girl i like I need i need to have a very meaty dong.

@Zayne;

Some women were Asian, Latino and a regular white lady who had one child. All had no problems with 7.25\" base Girth. The Asian had a problem with the new Girth after my 3rd session (I had her before at 7.25\" Girth). I suspect that when I have a good EQ and having sex, the Girth is higher than 7.5\" as can be seen in the photo above, I measured about 8.1\" base when fully Erect. Again, please understand I am in no way showing off. Just sharing my experience with you. In my update, I will go with more details. Once I had to stop having sex with a beautiful young lady because she was in so much pain. She started being very wet but as the pain grew, she got dry . I used some lube, which I hate, and it still hurt her. I could feel the pressure of her tight vagina on my unit. We stopped and talked for a while. We never contacted each other again, there was no point!

Mustang2020 wrote: @Zayne;

Some women were Asian, Latino and a regular white lady who had one child. All had no problems with 7.25\" base Girth. The Asian had a problem with the new Girth after my 3rd session (I had her before at 7.25\" Girth). I suspect that when I have a good EQ and having sex, the Girth is higher than 7.5\" as can be seen in the photo above, I measured about 8.1\" base when fully Erect. Again, please understand I am in no way showing off. Just sharing my experience with you. In my update, I will go with more details. Once I had to stop having sex with a beautiful young lady because she was in so much pain. She started being very wet but as the pain grew, she got dry . I used some lube, which I hate, and it still hurt her. I could feel the pressure of her tight vagina on my unit. We stopped and talked for a while. We never contacted each other again, there was no point!

I suspect your Girth will drop some in the coming months, hopefully it will lessen the frequency of the above-detailed incident(s).

New1inch wrote: The last girl I was with was a teenager few years back we were together 2 years. She was not tight at all and only been with 1 other guy. I don\'t find Asian women attractive at all so that won\'t work for me. My Girth is 5 inches but to me that\'s still small to me because I personally seen bigger. With my last girlfriend I count feel her. At that point I knew I may be on the slim side. Also I rock a 5 Inch length Cock. And that\'s 5 inches when I\'m super hard. Normally is just under. Sex is not enjoyable to me with my current length and Girth. I slide out a lot and feel like I\'m fucking nothing but air. The girls I\'m attracted to are not twig sized girls. I like hips and ass. Kim kardashian type girls. If you seen her sex tape youll know she took that big Dick with no problem. And to satisfy the body type girl i like I need i need to have a very meaty dong.

I\'ve read some stuff with \"vagina size and hip size\" correlations and none really exist, at least from what I\'ve gathered from (mostly anecdotal) sources. You may have had bad luck, but you could easily find a petite girl with a large(r) vagina and a big girl with a tighter one. If correlations do exist with hip size, race, etc, I suspect the correlations are weak.
If it\'s unfair to assume that all black guys have big dicks, than it is equally unfair to assume big-hipped women have larger vaginas. Get what I mean?
5\" EG is solid! and instead of seeing your unit as thin, consider the vaginas that you hit as \"looser\" than average, or perhaps you had her so wet she was just that much more receptive. Some girls are big down there, don\'t be too hard on yourself for what is definitely a good Girth.
I also dig the curvy types so I can totally relate to that (unfortunate & unfounded) thought that runs through our minds regarding Girth... of somehow wanting to be \"meaty\" enough for the meatier gals...but if that were such an issue than thick ladies would only be dating \"girthy\" guys...and I just don\'t believe this to be the case (correct me if I\'m mistaken anyone).

Let me also add that many and I mean many women have no clue how to tighten their vagina to make their man feel better. Most of them are lazy and want the guy to please them, they feel entitled you see!

In response to the posts here, I want to say that I have a ton of respect for the guys on this board, and my intentions were never to bash or criticize anyone that understood and weighed the risks of getting PMMA or any type of PE surgery. We all have a right to make our own decisions, and I'm not here to judge anyone. It's a wonderful thing to have greater intimacy in relationships, less anxiety and subconscious turmoil about size, and being able to feel complete as a man, regardless of the path it takes to get there (in many cases). I recall feeling insecure about my size from an early age, and I can relate to all the guys who have spent countless months stretching, pumping and Hanging only to have minimal gains. I own more PE equipment than sports gear and the idea of getting past this preoccupation used to seem like an impossible task. I am not even saying that one day I will not decide to move forward with some type of surgical PE or PMMA. I just feel like the recent threads and posts are heading towards this becoming a board where the majority of readers actually feel worse about themselves with the result being a lot of guys making decisions based purely on emotion. While we have a great community of guys that post daily, statistics show that usually only around 1 ' 2% of people actually post on any forum. There are hundreds and potentially thousands of guys that may be affected by this board in the future, good or bad. As does the guy who ended up with the bad surgery and wants to warn other guys, I too feel that many will see this board and all the threads saying 'High 5, Congrats of your Monster Cock'. women love 7' Girth'my 5.5' is small'8X6 is common'my friend was 12'', etc' and make a decision that may potentially damage their lives for a long time to come, with the truth being that most of them should have never taken the risk. In my opinion, it is not enough to hope that medical science will advance alongside any potential future problems, deeming them non-issues. As I said earlier, I hope the absolute best for everyone here, but if it turns out that PMMA has more complications that previously thought, it could be devastating for a large number of people. This may never be the case, but can you imagine if it turns out that a certain kind of PMMA causes Necrosis for even only 5% of guys after 10 years. There are guys now that would prefer their old size compared to the lumpiness of FFT, can you imagine the devastation they would feel over Necrosis on their shaft skin? My point is not to put down anyone that made an educated decision to take the risk, but to simply say that, in my opinion, it is not worth it for most guys. Almost 90% of us fall within a reasonably close average range and it's already been shown in most studies that 5.5' Girth is big. Most guys are well below this Girth and they satisfy their girlfriends and wives just fine. Beyond that, if you are with anyone that puts you down based on the size of your Dick, you are an idiot to carry on that relationship, kids or not. Any woman worth having would never stoop to that level anymore than you would call her ugly or fat. Sad to say, quality women are becoming more and more rare these days.Of course, I am not referring to couples that decide together to go down the PE road for their own reasons where the woman is understanding, supportive, and not the pushing force behind the choice.

Good post Gamecock. I agree.

I\'d go a step further than M7x6 and say it\'s one of the best posts I\'ve ever read on the forum.
This part particularly stands out to me and is a point I\'ve tried making myself in the past.
\" I just feel like the recent threads and posts are heading towards this becoming a board where the majority of readers actually feel worse about themselves with the result being a lot of guys making decisions based purely on emotion\"

A while ago I posted than I no longer really support the PMMA procedure. The key reason for that is that originally I saw it as a way of helping under average guys feel more \"normal\" or the same for guys who had so deformities that could be fixed with PMMA or various other more \"valid\" reasons. But now it seems as if the procedure is making most normal sized guys feel inferior. It\'s not being used to bring guys up to par, but to make them huge. Personally I don\'t the risks are worth that and it could lead to a potentially life changing procedure for smaller guys being written off by the medical community.

I agree with Hoddle...Gamecock...that is one powerful post....I agree with everything you have so eloquently written....Major food for thought

hoddle10 wrote: Personally I don\'t the risks are worth that and it could lead to a potentially life changing procedure for smaller guys being written off by the medical community.

I\'ve sometimes contemplated pulling the plug on the forum because I felt that too many newbies (who have had little-to-no background on phallo-history & MyNewSize) were jumping on the PMMA bandwagon prematurely. I chose to stick with the forum because, ultimately, I still believe the \"smaller\" guys needed a credible resource.
The early bunch who got PMMA done were genuinely pioneers because not only were they veterans of the online PE scene, but they were mostly informed decision makers. What they knew was that Phalloplasty was not something performed regularly or accepted by the medical community for practice on the average patient. With the exception of micro penis and penile trauma, any doctor performing Phalloplasty for cosmetic enlargement were far and few. Their methods inconsistent at best, and their practices deemed taboo. So unless you are willing to be a pioneer (and you better understand what this means, i.e. someone who progress reports), or unless you are in the 4x4 world, I\'d strongly recommend reassessing your ambition to pursue Phalloplasty.
This is especially a shout out to our young lurkers & newbies. Don\'t compare your cocks against porno dicks, that PLUS a little growing up, you\'ll laugh that you even contemplated having a knife or needle put to your Dick. This really isn\'t for everyone, and until there is a \"safe and proven method with long-term data,\" only informed decision makers under the right circumstances should be considering anything-Phalloplasty.

gamecock wrote: Almost 90% of us fall within a reasonably close average range and it's already been shown in most studies that 5.5' girth is big. Most guys are well below this girth and they satisfy their girlfriends and wives just fine.

Don\'t mean to get into the numbers game, but 5.5\" is definitely huge! EQStudent did a survey with a modest sample size asking women to rate toys based on their girth. The women were a bit tipsy and more likely to be honest with their answers. Obviously, any number of things could have skewed this survey, but suffice it to say, it\'s harder to get it any better. Turns out the majority of women preferred the 5\" EG - 5.5\" EG as optimal. ( phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Wif...ion-5411287?trail=15 )
I should note that 6.5\"+ EL is long too. I bet to the untrained eye, you could convince a dumb chick that your 6.5\'er is an 8incher.
Point with these numbers is to remind readers how it\'s us guys who make it hard on ourselves with size, more so than women. Hell, most women have no fucking clue what a 6\" girth is or a 7.5\" EL is. They are more interested in how long you can last and how good you are with your hands. Size helps? Sure in some cases. But size can also be too much too...