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@PmmaFan Unfortunately (but also fortunately lol), he put some on the under side already during my last 15cc procedure. This next injection will be just shy of 7 weeks from the last one. I'm not sure how much was put there though.

Here are some images showing what I'm talking about with the divot, and what it looks like currently.
I had a layer of alloderm placed inside months before my 15cc injection 7 weeks ago which helps a lot I think in aesthetics. It's not all PMMA

I'm still 0.25" from my original goal of 7"
You think it could make it look worse?

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In your case I would not risk any esthetic consequences with „overdo“ it.

I would only do a conservative session (less cc) on the underside (what Rupeka does) - here you ll gain extra inch in feel - but you ll not risk your esthetics.

So when the vagina is eating you, she can tell there is more.

Since its never have been injected here, you ll gain similar like in a first session …

Interesting, that is very helpful! I guess since HA will not have this same blood flow since it doesn't provoke this irritant reaction?

Or should I say fuck it and add 3 more ccs and get another 15??
I'm nervous since the procedure is next Tuesday. Even though I've done it already, it's always a bit nerve racking.

I just don't want to "overdo" it. My cock looks great right now at ~7" EL and 6.7" EG
but I really do want to hit 7" EG, and I don't think going slightly over is bad

the PMMA itself is plastic. Teeny tiny beads, these don't vascularize. What surrounds them is collagen, this DOES vascularize, same as everywhere else in your body that has collagen.
It will be warm, it will have blood flow, iit will simply feel like skin, but thicker and firmer ever so slightly

EDIT I should explain better. If you have a PMMA product that is 10% PMMA concentration, 90% of it will be carrier. As that carrier gets absorbed, the PMMA will act as an irritant that prompts your body to wall off the remaining PMMA with collagen; to get collagen where it needs ot be new vasculature will need to be formed to transmit collagen where carrier once was. So part of the new tissue that's created around the PMMA will in fact be capillaries and such, created to supply the collagen with blood, etc.

I meant does blood flow through/in it or only through the surface of the skin?

I'd suggest you watch some of the informational videos several of these providers have that demonstrates how PMMA works. Avanti Derma has a good one on their website or YouTube. Essentially, they're microspheres that build with the collagen that your body forms. It creates a "coat" that's right beneath the surface of your skin. I'm not sure what you mean by it feeling warm. I can tell you that I get erect, you can't even tell there's anything there and feels same as it did pre-PMMA.

Does the PMMA layer have blood flow/does it feel warm?

Looks good! Of everything you've written, I'm especially impressed by the increase in BPEL! Could you tell us what ml's and % PMMA you got for your last round?

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There will be a small incision just above the base of the penis and within the pubic hair, therefore well-concealed.
Please look at the pictures in my website (BayAreaPenisEnlargement.com) and you can see that the scars are not noticeable, and my patients do not complain about it.
Victor Liu, MD. FACS, FRCS(C)

Coastalcock wrote: Once it’s walled off, it’s walled off, if damage occurs, minor inflammation to “fix the wall” will occur”

I came here to say exactly this. Once it's encapsulated in collagen the inflammatory response is over. If damage to the collagen occurs and more PMMA is exposed, another temporary inflammatory response will occur. Then go away.
Obviously lifelong chronic inflammation is bad, hell, I'm one of those weird "no seed oils" people moving mountains to fly across the country to get plastic jammed into my dick. But unless my understanding of how collagen encapsulation works changes, I'm good with this.
There are still WWII vets (albeit not many) walking around with shrapnel and bullets in their bodies. They've likely dodged the worst evils of chronic inflammation because their bodies have walled it off.
I'm way more worried about Crisco and microplastics in my food than this. Or non-grass-fed beef, or glyphosate, or...yeah, any way, once it's walled off it's walled off, only, walled off in a way that makes your dick awesome.

I’m glad to help brother, this can be a nerve wracking situation, however in the short form ( no pun intended)

In fillers , pmma is “walled off/ encapsulated” by collagen , it fact that is the mechanism by which your growth occurs and is the desired short term inflammatory response.

. Even in massive amounts of pmma ( you don’t have that, we have a guy on the board with somewhere between 120-160ml which equates to 70-90 ml of pure pmma) that still isn’t having a persistent inflammatory response. Once it’s walled off, it’s walled off, if damage occurs, minor inflammation to “fix the wall” will occur”

Probably the most important thing to do now is take collagen peptide supplements , it isn’t going to go directly to your dick, and the majority of it will be excreted from the body , but you’re ensuring that the body has all the building blocks needed to rapid healing without pulling from other sources in the body.

Bellafill has a slow carrier absorption rate, so 6-8 weeks of collagen sups should cover absorption of carrier and subsequent collagen replacement.

While I didn’t stay in a Holiday Inn last night, and I am not a recognized member of the medical community except in the most obscure way. I did spend some year s working in hard sciences and was in the upper part of the NIST and NBS traceability chain, so calculating risk from data is second nature.

Have a great day, and enjoy the new tool you’ve been given to work with.


Looks like skeptical beat me to the punch lol!

First and foremost, all elective medical procedures (especially cosmetic in nature) are not without risk, and they are called elective because they are not necessary for your welfare or health. Even if everything were to go as planned and the procedure (and its associated materials like a filler) worked 100% safety & effectively, it wouldn't rule you out from the possibility of post-op infections you can acquire through a trip at any Clinical setting, despite it being rather uncommon (hence why most facilities maintain sterile settings, use rubbing alcohol prior to injection, and often prescribe antibiotics post-op as a preventative measure).

I also want to implore anyone considering these procedures that have a history of depression, anxiety -- or -- those hypercritical of aesthetics or hypochondriac of "symptoms," ought to reconsider doing any sort of elective procedure.

All that said, to put your mind at ease, this forum has been following the use of PMMA for penile enhancement since almost as early as its inception (circa 2010), and its efficacy has been quite demonstrable through sample size alone.

PMMA is not a known carcinogen and its been FDA approved for use to correct/enhance nasolabial folds and has been used off-label for other areas of enhancement (which is legal).

The inflammatory response comes with the territory and is partly responsible for what helps prompt your body to wall off the PMMA (hence collagen formation) in the first place. This inflammation by and large seems subtle with respect to long-term presence, and typically flares (i.e. increases in size due to mild swelling) when aggressive physical force is applied to the penis (e.g. aggressive masturbation or penis pumping). For me personally, at no time did I tell myself I needed to get a prescription for anti-inflammation because in the 13 years I've had it in me, it's never posed a problem (and I forget it's even there with each passing month and year).

That all said, 10+ syringes is quite modest at best, you have a low volume of PMMA in your skin, presenting even less inflammation than those who have had considerably more over time.

If you aren't comfortable with long-term inflammation, you can seek to augment you shaft through lesser inflammatory materials like Hyaluronic Acid (HA), but those will require annual top-offs -- versus the permanency of PMMA -- and that's sort of the trade off.

In a nutshell, you'll be fine.

While the adherence, mode, vascularization, and absorbance mechanisms are entirely different, consider that like a fat transfer/bbl, only a percentage that is variable person to person is going to “take”. Further fills will take a different rates and longevity, Even with fast absorbers I haven’t read yet that it all disappeared , I’ve heard 30-40% loss which means 60-70 % retention , which if we were discussing fat transfer would be a tremendous result.

I’m still going pmma when I can find the time, but I will continue to do ha until then as my travel time for ha is 4 hours round trip driving with no down time from a work perspective.

Ok, take a deep breath first .

I currently have ha and intend to go pmma . Prior to making that decision I researched extensively looking for issues or problems. Pmma is used in eye surgery, bone cement, joint replacement, and a plethora of other in body uses to include fillers as we are discussing.

Medical studies go back over 15 years to include fillers (facial in this case). With the long term “negatives” being listed as nodules in 3.3% of cases in a 15 year follow up study.

Pmma has along medical history and truly minimal noted negatives.

Because you suffer from anxiety, you should take an afternoon, break out your google-fu and read at least 20 medical studies on pmma, Read them for ALL medical uses of pmma, with the understanding that your use as a filler is studied but you want the whole picture.

I would add that Reddit, while a data point, also has convincing arguments that the world is run by lizard people, and convinced folks that the “OK” hand gesture was racial in nature, so take it with a grain of salt.

A little apprehension post procedure ( any surgical or cosmetic procedure really) IS normal, but if you’re in fairly good health it is not going to be the issue you think it is.

You had a safe profile filler installed as opposed to silicone or other non medical filler. Outside of emergency approval , the FDA has a pretty difficult and expensive process for approval and they get it right the vast majority of the time. Even silicone, and I agree with skeptical here and am VERY thankful for this board for it , should NOT be used as a filler, BUT for the 100 or so reports of negative outcomes, there are thousands of folks on body modification forums with massive amounts ( over 1 liter) long term (10-20 years) with no ill effects other than not fitting pants. This is NOT an endorsement of silicone in ANY way, it is used merely to point out that as humans we tend to focus on negative outcomes.

Put another way, there are roughly 100,000 flights daily, we have heard about issues on around 5 flights in the last month and it’s big news ( admitted so for those on that flight). But 5 issues that made the new out of roughly 3 MILLION flights. We are entering stuck by lightning, winning a lottery odds.


So take a breath, it’s going to be OK

A couple of quick info studies, there are TONS more out there.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9174739/

www.fda.gov/media/158494/download

journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1091581811407352

journals.lww.com/ijwd/Fulltext/2019/0700...st_marketing.30.aspx

Hope this helps