TOPIC: Anyone else holding off for now on Casavantes?

Or try Dr Rosenthal who does Belladerm. There are may people in here that have done many different processes...

biglikeme wrote: Hello all, my name is Greg Bergman. I am a filmmaker making a documentary about our cultural obsession with penis size. I have tried all the enhancement products, and now plan on going through surgery and chronicling my experience. \'
Two Questions:
1) Should I do PMMA with Casavantes or Dr. Giunta procedure? And what about Dr. Elist?
2) Would any of you be interested in interviewing for my film? Anonymity can be assured if you prefer.
hope to hear back from you guys I could use the advice!!!

Just so you know, the PMMA procedure isn\'t really \"surgery\" per-se, instead we call it bioplasty (injection instead of incision).
I don\'t think asking members what you should do is the best way to go forward. Even though you are creating a documentary, you are in fact subjecting your penis to major changes, and this decision should be made solely from your own research. Good luck.

Doc C was suppose to get the Linea Safe in May. Now it is June.

I still think I should wait for the newer cleaner version, but how long?

Has anyone else spoken to them about when they may get it in?

Tommygun wrote: Doc C was suppose to get the Linea Safe in May. Now it is June.

I still think I should wait for the newer cleaner version, but how long?

Has anyone else spoken to them about when they may get it in?

Out of curiosity, what makes you think Linnea Safe is the \"newer cleaner version?\" It\'s pretty much a remake of New Plastic, and most of these \"questions of purity\" are more speculative than definitive.

It\'s just what I have gleaned from the internet.

New Plastic has been discontinued. It was \"cleaner\" than metacril. Linea Safe is suppose to replace New Plastic, but even cleaner.

Not to say that Metacril\'s use would be a mistake. I know that a lot of guys on the board have it.

I am not sure that the wait is worth while since Metacril has a long history although not a perfect one.

Sorry if I offend anyone here but....
There is nothing inferior about Metacril. You are not more likely to develop a foreign body reaction by opting for Metacril over Linnea Safe. Metacril is not \"dirty\" nor is it any less safe to use than NewPlastic/Linnea Safe. Those that post without speaking directly with the doctor performing the procedure(s) shouldn\'t post at all. If you trust Dr. Casavantes enough to stick needles in your penis and implant plastic material, wouldn\'t it make sense to trust him regarding his knowledge of the materials he uses? According to Dr. C, Metacril is every bit as safe as Linnea Safe and has been in use for decades. Only after counterfeit Metacril was on the market did it receive a bad reputation. That is why Metacril now takes specific measures to prevent counterfeiting. If it boils down to choosing one brand over another... I think you should rethink your decision to undergo penile bioplasty entirely.

Interesting quote from another board. Womens augmentation and mention of Dr C. Metacril used...

Re: CONSIDERING PMMA INJECTIONS? by jenfromzen ' Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:51 pm I don\'t think anyone looking for info cares much for blog fights, is shame people have to not get along when trying have discussions. I can just speak from my experience of having 4 session of pmma injection on the hips in Tijuana with Dr. C. It is still painful even tho it has been 3 years. I don\'t know if pain equals inflammation, but what I can\'t explain then, is why is it warm to the touch? My hips are almost hot all the time where the filler is. To me inflammation does always have a warmth to it. So it does bug me this odd warmth, along with how delicate I have to be because lying on it is stil painful, the nodules and so forth. And if I\'m older and have hip problems that elderly people have, I\'m realizing a doctor can\'t even take an mri of my hip to see the problem because the pmma blocks the view. How do I know this? Because they have already noted presence of unknown substance blocking view when I had my hamstring mri done, that is a pelvic mri, which shows upper hamstring and hips and so I already know they couldn\'t get a full view of my hip so I guess god help me in the future if I ever have a lot of hip pain and they can\'t see what is wrong without some invasive surgery procedure.

But, I did what I had to do because I literally was mistaken for a man in the past and my life is embarrassing and unhappy not having the shape of a woman so despite the pain and unusual warmth, oh and I didn\'t mention before the new blue veins I have showign thru the hips where no women have visible veins, not that pretty a site in a bathing suit, veins over there! I\'m still trying figure out how to get the figure I want. But sometimes I do wonder if the pmma is making me sicker. My health has declined since then, I\'ve figured I have fms/cfs. I can just have almost no energy, I sneeze a lot but have been allergy tested 3 times and they can\'t find me allergic, but I feel like I have a cold day after day so I just don\'t know. Maybe is just non allrgic rhinitis that is really bad and my nose just sensitive, but the warmth over the pmma area is a curious thing. I def wish the pmma was the miracle I had wanted it to be instead of wrought with problems. I just feel tired all the time, but I really couldn\'t say is the pmma. I have had all sorts of blood tests so if there were unusual inflammation wouldn\'t that have shown up in some sort of test? I even had arthritis blood test done and I thought that had to do with inflammation and that was negative, don\'t have that. But I am warned all the time that the pmma can be dormant infections and if aggravated in some way, it can become actively infected. I don\'t know. I just still want to get that shape that I want so I may be forced to try more pmma if nobody can start me over with a new type of filler now that I already have all this pmma.

And then I just found a doctor in So California I think, doing hip implants, after all this, now there is such a thing. But I saw only one photo on his website, a Dr. Chugay, and it is almost more of thigh implants, it is like lower hips to thighs where he puts it and I thought it a bit odd, I don\'t know if I would have wanted that either and the implants in my butt hurt like hell so what do hip implants feel like? But interesting tho that there is such a thing now if you like the placement of it. To me the hips go all the way up to the waist, like to the belly button and her hip implants began way below the belly button so it sorta widened mostly the lower butt/thighs area, it doesn\'t give you a wider upper hip like where the top of the hip bone would sit. I dunno, can have a look yourself I guess:

www.bodyimplants.com/hip-implant-photos.html

I also foudn this site about pmma in South America and they don\'t state which dr they use there, but they have some amazing before/after photos, couple of them really remind me of me for a change, couple really show some manly looking women being turned into curvy women, and I like the way they show the before as being 2004 and the after 2007 so they show you that this takes time, u can\'t get that kind of huge change overnight. But I was glad to finally see someone in the before whose figure somewhat remind me of myself, someone with almost no curve.

www.internationalsurgery.com/index.php

But has anyone heard of this group? I wonder who they use, I guess I have to contact them, if I think I am stuck with pmma as my o
nly choice to continue, then health risks or not, I have to see if they can just finish off what I started hopefully without making me any worse off than I am now. I jut do feel my health has declined but could be lots of reasons, maybe when I left my last gym and didn\'t rejoin anything, I have to join a gym again, try get up my energy levels, try not feel so sick all the time. jenfromzen Posts: 5Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:47 am
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Where does it mention Metacril? Given it was done in 2007, wouldn\'t it more likely be with Precise, as I thought Dr C worked for Anna Lover then?

Good point hoddle10.

It doesn\'t mention it. I assumed from the subject matter - bad assumption?

Still the question is... Go with Metacril or wait it out?

btw: love the new avitar Miracle

She seems like she\'s all over the place, but a good post anyway. It could just be nervousness, but I also had cold like symptoms for about 3 weeks for no reason. Previously I never got sick. Maybe once every two years. After reading her post I thought about it for a minute. Maybe it\'s possible?
I did elect to hold off until Linnea Safe is in for round 2. I\'m not as knowledgeable as other members on this board and the perception of other material got the best of me.
Also, your avatar is way better miracle. Who is that?

Metacril is approved for use throughout the European Union. I suspect the EU is at least as rigorous as the FDA in the US when it comes to approving products for medical use. So if it is the case that there are serious issues with Metacril, I would be surprised if those escaped the attention of the EU during the testing process.

Tommygun wrote: It doesn\'t mention it. I assumed from the subject matter - bad assumption?

Still the question is... Go with Metacril or wait it out?

btw: love the new avitar Miracle

I\'m baffled. I\'m almost wondering if the marketing behind calling it \"Linnea Safe\" has played a psychological role in people\'s decision making here.
There is nothing definitive about the superiority of Metacril over Linnea Safe and vice versa. Furthermore, as M7 points out, if we\'re going to trust a reputable doctor to inject us with this stuff, isn\'t his opinion about what product he uses important?
The above article you posted does nothing to suggest Metacril is less safe, and I believe Hoddle is spot on with it likely being Precise (or heck even New Plastic) than it being Metacril. Furthermore, it was written about bioplasty of the hips (not penis) with no reference to the product used. Only so much we can take from it.
Besides Linnea Safe (assuming it\'s a brand new product) has not been used commercially (yet) and has NO records to go by. Metacril has been used for years, at least the doctors using it have an idea of the kind of product it is. Linnea Safe is a \"virgin\" (assuming it\'s different from New Plastic), and I\'d argue that makes it less desirable as a choice, not more desirable. I\'ll have to get a 100% confirmation, but if I\'m not mistaken, Linnea Safe & New Plastic are one and the same. In this instance, it\'s in the same \"class\" as Metacril, and I\'m not sure why brand choice would be a major issue if Dr. C is comfortable with both.
In a conversation with Wade, he was dumbfounded by the demand for Linnea Safe when he (and Dr. C) felt that Metacril was a fine product. Furthermore, he didn\'t understand where this reputation as a \"dirty\" product came from, with the exception of a counterfeit batch that was produced a while ago. Besides that incident, he feels that if (keyword: if) there was any difference (in risks & frequency of FBG), the difference would be negligible.
As M7 has pointed out, if anyone here has reservations on getting this procedure done because of the Linnea Safe vs Metacril issue, they may want to reassess getting it done at all.

imbignow wrote: I did elect to hold off until Linnea Safe is in for round 2. I\'m not as knowledgeable as other members on this board and the perception of other material got the best of me.

Again, what perception? Because it\'s called Linnea Safe? I mean what else is there other than some speculation?
If you were told (hypothetically), that Metacril had a 1.7% rate of FBG, and Linnea Safe had a 1.2% rate of FBG, would you wait out, say, 3 years for Linnea Safe while the Doctor continues to use and endorse Metacril? This is all hypothetical and those numbers I gave were totally made up. Just putting this \"brand\" issue into perspective. The point is that if Linnea Safe were significantly better than Metacril, Dr. C, Lemperle, and the PMMA Congress that convenes annually would have had some reason to believe so!

In time (5, 10 years+) we could learn that Linnea Safe is the king of all brands after all...on the same token, we could also learn that it was a total bust.
Metacril has history. A lot of the undesirable experiences expressed on other forums seldom site enough information to know whether or not the brand alone was the cause for complication (i.e. the doctor involved, the brand itself involved, the instrumentation used, and the location/layer where the PMMA was injected). Most other forums that discuss PMMA are by young women who want bigger butts...they really don\'t put in the time & research that we do over here at PB. That\'s why you\'ll see a critical stance taken on baseless statements.
Lastly, I should note, according to our old friend EP, he feels that Metacril \"holds\" Girth more consistently over time than New Plastic. This was his own observations. I\'m a total idiot and actually failed to ask Dr. C & Wade which product was used on me from Round 3 ... I\'ll find that out and report back.