TOPIC: Let's clarify one thing about size...

Only reaffirming my greatest fear (that my penis was small).

Why is that your greatest fear?

I have wondered if, in my case, wanting a larger penis symbolizes the contest for lost status within the family hierarchy (brother surpasses me as successful, fulfills family expectations by marrying, grows taller, etc.) manifesting in the desire to regain that status.

@Eqstudent I\'m baffled by your numerous posts from out in left field making accusations over statements that I never said. I would really like to avoid repeating everything, as every single one of the points you tried to level against me are refuted in my original posts. You obviously have an axe to grind over feeling \"judged\" and you were able to mentally distort my comments just enough to give yourself someone to lash out against. I will not feel bad or be at the mercy of your approval simply because I am concerned that many young men may read some of the threads on this site and decide to make a potentially devastation long term life decision based purely on emotion.
As for your statements: Eqstudent quote: 'There are members who post here who are trying to build the biggest unit they safely can with very little regard for a happier sex life. I don\'t think there is anything wrong with that at all. It is their right to do so and I think they should be supported just like any other member of this community.'
I never meant to imply that the only valid reason for PE was for building a happier sex life. Of course there are guys that are doing this just for themselves. Where did I judge them, and in the same breath, I must have judged myself, as I have been doing manual PE for myself for years? Pretty sure I said that, 'It's a wonderful thing to have greater intimacy in relationships, less anxiety and subconscious turmoil about size, and being able to feel complete as a man, regardless of the path it takes to get there (in many cases).' Eqstudent quote: 'don't call other members out just because their size goals/reasons are different from your goals/reasons.' 'I think it is a mistake when anyone starts to think that their goal is more \"valid\" or \"right\" than the next member.' 'Why is your or my or gamecock's choice more valid thansomeone who just wants to go as big as they can? Gamecock has said he has more PE equipmentthan gym equipment. Why is his choice toenlarge his penis any more valid than someone who just wants to go as big asthey can?'
Sports gear is what I said. I guess I should have said that I was never all that much into sports after high school, but yes I have a bathmate, a static stretcher, a few tubes, and a bib Hanger. All of which I have used with a reasonable amount of caution. No idea how you turned this into me stating that my choice to enlarge is any more valid than another. Again, my point was about a simple concern over the direction of the forum as stated below, which everyone here seemed to understand except you. As I said: 'I am not even saying that one day I will not decide to move forward with some type of surgical PE or PMMA. I just feel like the recent threads and posts are heading towards this becoming a board where the majority of readers actually feel worse about themselves with the result being a lot of guys making decisions based purely on emotion.' Eqstudent quote: 'don\'t call out members who want to go bigger than you. It is hypocritical to think that your choice to have a risky elective procedure is somehow more valid or qualified than the other person.'
When did I ever say anything against someone going bigger than me?? What are you talking about? Again, out in left field. Where did I make any statement saying that my choice to do anything was more valid than another? I can't even imagine how you came to that conclusion, and let me assure you that I don't have an ounce of jealously over another man that is even twice my size. It's unfortunate that my posts convinced you that I'm a person that pretends to have principles and virtues, or are you aware of the actual definition of a hypocrite? Mabye, I could have made my point without 'soft calling out' anyone with stating my concern that some of the members should consider the potential effects of our threads making it out that 6\" Girth is what it takes to satisfy a woman. As I clearly stated, 'I want to say that I have a ton of respect for the guys on this board, and my intentions were never to bash or criticize anyone that understood and weighed the risks of getting PMMA or any type of PE surgery. We all have a right to make our own decisions, and I'm not here to judge anyone.' 'My point is not to put down anyone that made an educated decision to take the risk, but to simply say that, in my opinion, it is not worth it for most guys.' Again, I did not call out anyone in particular, nor did I link to the many posts that tout the merits of 6' Girth, while the potential thousand of future newbies here feel like shit that they're 4.8' and start seeing their Dick as the cause of all their woes. And really, I don't have an ounce of bad feelings for any of the members or vets here, and they are all man enough to defend themselves without you running to their aid. The truth is that, as I get older I feel more of a responsibility to protect those that felt the same way as me growing up, knowing that I would have appreciated having someone like that in my life.

gamecock wrote: Mabye, I could have made my point without 'soft calling out' anyone with stating my concern that some of the members should consider the potential effects of our threads making it out that 6\" Girth is what it takes to satisfy a woman.

Not sure why you needed 13 rambling paragraphs when you could have just said this. I will change my original point to 'While I agree with the intent of your post I have to disagree with you soft calling out some of the members\". I agree with you that it does not take a 6\" Girth to satisfy a woman and I have posted that same point on several occasions. FYI not all the members who are trying to go big are ststing that it has anything to do with satisfying a woman!

@MM

I must admit that I would love to have an 8x7 penis for 1 hour, just to see what that would be like.

You are so right, \"Human psychology is a complicated thing indeed.\"

Good luck with reaching your 8\" goal!

Nice rolling eyes. Haven\'t seen that since high school walking by valley girl hall B. Good memories.
As for the 13 paragraphs, it took that many just to list the absurd amount of posts you wrote and repeat myself. I didn\'t appreciate having to waste my time either, but your distorted manipulation of my words and unbased accusations deserve a reply.
Backtrack as you like, but you claimed much more than just being upset about members supposedly being called out, even though none of them appeared to feel that way and in fact they all applauded what I wrote. Sorry your superman attempt was futile.
You stated 5 separate times that I had somehow said that my reason to do PE was somehow more valid than someone else and that I\'m a hypocrite. Again, I ask, where did I ever make any statement stating such? You like to throw around big insults, lets see you back them up.
FYI, your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. Once again, I never said that ALL members believed that it takes a certain size to satisfy a woman. SO and many other members have made that very clear. I said that we should be aware of the numerous posts making it seem that it takes a certain size to please a woman and how that may impact future readers, when even guys here admit to body dysmorphia. Ya know, fuel to the fire type thing mixed with the naivety of newbies and real life-changing decisions that can\'t be undone for the most part.
As anyone can see, I haven\'t made a single rude comment to anyone since I started reading this board on day 1. I apologize for wasting other members time reading this, but I also don\'t appreciate being called a hypocrite and having someone put words in my mouth in no less than 4 posts on a thread that I started to voice a very real concern that others also share.
BTW Eq, what would you can someone that directly tries to call someone out over supposedly calling other people out??? I have a lot more respect than to use that word even over the internet to people I\'ve never met.

Eq, not sure if you got my PM, but before SO tells us to take it somewhere else, I sent you a PM to try to resolve this without derailing the thread any more. I looked over your old posts and many of them share my same concerns. If you get a chance I would like to hear, in a separate thread, about what made you decide to go forward with PMMA after being so publicly pro \"natural is enough\" back in the day.

gamecock wrote: You stated 5 separate times that I had somehow said that my reason to do PE was somehow more valid than someone else and that I\'m a hypocrite.

Dude come down off the ledge, you are going to have a attack. I disagreed with a specific point you made I\'m not trying to point fingers but this isn\'t about building some type of big dick club, even though it\'s starting to look that way. Guess what, for some members it is about building a big dick.

No ledge. I\'m young, in shape, and relaxing at home after a nice shower. And no you did not just disagree with a specific point I made.You went on a 4 post rant accusing me of saying that my \"goal is more \"valid\" or \"right\" than others and saying that I had a problem with someone wanting to build a bigger Dick, which I never implied in any way. Of course people want to build a bigger Dick, and I wasn\'t judging them. I was stating that the goal of THIS FORUM should not be to build a BIG Dick CLUB, where newbies feel ashamed of themselves and rush off to inject plastic in their shafts without thinking through the very real consequences. PM discussion still stands.

gamecock wrote: And no you did not just disagree with a specific point I made.You went on a 4 post rant accusing me of saying that my \"goal is more \"valid\" or \"right\" than others and saying that I had a problem with someone wanting to build a bigger dick, which I never implied in any way. Of course people want to build a bigger dick, and I wasn\'t judging them.

I\'m telling you what I disagreed with. My conversation with SO and Hoddle10 had nothing to do with you, I'm sorry if you felt it did. FYI check out this thread phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Ant...ed-PE-Clans.-5805875

Okay gentlemen, you\'ve both addressed your issues and made your rebuttals, so please allow us to resume the topic matter at hand.
Thanks