TOPIC: Temporary fillers

Here is a study concerning hyaluronic acid
The effects of penile girth enhancement using injectable hyaluronic acid gel, a filler
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20233296/

This study has probably been reviewed here but I didn\'t see it talked about in the last couple pages. The study mentions the duration lasting up to 18 months. This is higher than I\'ve ever seen. Complications dealt only with symmetry and it looks like this was resolved for all the patients.

It\'s been posted a few times over the years. It was first on Thundersplace before Macrolane was released, so I really thought that when it was approved in Europe it would be a great option. But most Dr\'s no longer offer it and the patients I know of didn\'t like it. However, I see 2 key differences, which are the amount used and post op care. In the study they use around 20cc, while most clinics use around 50cc. So it makes sense irregularities would be much more prominent with 50cc. Also in the study they use a derma roller. So maybe a smaller amount with effective post op care could be a viable option.

There is a place in Nice, France that does this. I\'m very tempted to go and get 20cc injected. The trouble is I still have some issue\'s that need resolving with scar tissue from my previous surgeries. If that wasn\'t an issue I\'d go to France next week! Mikehok had this didn\'t like it and had it reversed a week later. So it\'s not that a big of a deal if one doesn\'t like the result, as it\'s easy to resolve.

Hi Hoddle, What would you say is the main difference between macrolane and Radiesse?I spoke with the dr at nice earlier this year and he charges only 1200' and is much closer to us in London. Thanks

yao wrote: Hi Hoddle, What would you say is the main difference between macrolane and Radiesse?I spoke with the dr at nice earlier this year and he charges only 1200' and is much closer to us in London. Thanks

The mechanisms are totally different. Radiesse is very similar to PMMA, only the microspheres dissolve over time. Basically a foreign body reaction occurs and the collagen from this creates the volume. Macrolane is a HA, so the volume comes from the product itself. So if you inject 10ml of Radiesse, only 3ml of this is Radiesse, the rest is a carrier which get quickly absorbed and replaced by collagen. If you inject 10ml and Macrolane, then that\'s it, nothing happens it just stays there until it absorbs 1-2 years later.

hoddle, the formation of granuloma is only an aesthethic problem or is it painful as well?

thank you

pontest wrote: hoddle, the formation of granuloma is only an aesthethic problem or is it painful as well?

thank you

That\'s what I\'ve been trying to find out, but it\'s hard to tell.

The key reason I\'m 100% against silicone and think the idea is pure insanity is because silicone is known to cause a type of granuloma that attacks the surrounding tissue and even breaks it down. If you look at how raw bluemale looks, this can\'t be just because of the bandage, but because of how much more aggressive the immune reaction is to silicone than PMMA. If you look at the fist photo in this link you can see that the silicone is destroying the actual penis tissue and hole is appearing in the skin. These types of granulomas are obviously not only painful, but one has no choice but to try and have it removed.


penisdoctor.com/photo5c.htm

I\'d imagine Radiesse granulomas are the same as PMMA though.

right... bua a granuloma is really the end of the world?
if not, I think it\'s worth the risk

if it were PMMA, then maybe we\'d have to remove it to treat the granuloma
but Radiesse is temporary anyway

thoughts?

pontest wrote: right... bua a granuloma is really the end of the world?
if not, I think it\'s worth the risk

if it were PMMA, then maybe we\'d have to remove it to treat the granuloma
but Radiesse is temporary anyway

thoughts?

The only reason I\'m not sold on Radiesse is that it seems if you have a granuloma it isn\'t simply solved by waiting for it to dissolve. I posted about this last week and you responded!

If a granuloma isn\'t painful and doesn\'t damage the surrounding tissue then to my mind it isn\'t the end of the word, as long as it isn\'t too big. But if that is the case then I think PMMA would be a better option anyway.

Radiesse would be perfect if it wasn\'t so expensive and granulomas would go if it just dissolved. But as it is, I think it would cost around $3000 per year for a decent gain and the article I posted suggests that complications persist long term, as do patient reports on sites like Realself. I\'m not really prepared to pay $3000 a year unless the risks seem significantly less than with PMMA.

I\'m personally am a bit skeptical that one would get around 1/2\" going to Dr G. I think for most people more product would have to be injected. Hence I think it would cost around $3000 for a 1/2\" gain.
If a couple more guys went to Dr G, paid $1800 and got 1/2\" gain I\'d be very interested. But as it stands we have one member and we\'ve seen from PMMA just how varied results can be. I think Dr G injects 3ml, and mixes with 3ml of anesthetic fluid. I just find it difficult to believe we\'d see consistent results with such a small amount.

Hi Guys, Hope all is well with you.I am getting more and more desperate and wants take the plunge as it has been more than two years since I started following this forum.I know I want to go ahead with one of the temporary options that is Radiesse and Macrolane.Macrolane is the more attractive option as the price is lower than Dr G and there are loads of drs around UK and western europe.what is holding me back is in the link belowhttp://www.ukmedix.com/news/surgery/penis-enlargement/penis_enlargement_problems_lead_to_impotence_and_pain6154.cfmsecondly, there arent many positive accounts relating to this procedure. If it was a simple and successful treatment many drs would pick this up and make loads of money as all they would need is to learn the injection technique. There are only few doctors offering this and many are quitting this method such as Dr Viel in London and a dr in sweden while other Urologist arent even offering this method such as Dr Ralph in London. So my question to you guys is: which of the filler Radiesse and Macrolane would go for if you could only chose among these?I am not expecting to get 6\" Girth but just around 5\"

Out of curiosity, what ever came of the rumor that the doctor in Florida was going to hop on the site and post some thoughts?

@ jake: dont know what happen to that doctor...\'interested\' was the one that invited him to the forum if im not wrong. Speaking about macrolane and the doctor in france, have a look at the youtube link below's comment section...quite few patients of the doctor that are happy with him.Use google translate for the french comments. These are the first postive accounts of macrolane I have seen.

yao wrote: @ jake: dont know what happen to that doctor...\'interested\' was the one that invited him to the forum if im not wrong. Speaking about macrolane and the doctor in france, have a look at the youtube link below's comment section...quite few patients of the doctor that are happy with him.Use google translate for the french comments. These are the first postive accounts of macrolane I have seen.

The trouble is it seems all the positive comments comes from people who have a christian and surname as their youtube username. Maybe it\'s a coincidence, but most people don\'t do this when registering with youtube or any forum etc. Also if you click on the names, they have only commented on Dr Oudot\'s video and nothing else. Basically there are 6 positive comments, all have normal name as a username and all only comment on his video.

There is a place in London that does Macrolane.

www.harley-health.com/male-enhancement/

how much would it cost for me to go from
7.5 Inch lengh and
5 Inch Girth
to a 6 Inch Girth using Radiesse?
I guess I\'m gonna be the first guinea pig for this procedure next year..... even if it\'s more expensive

Thanks

pontest wrote: how much would it cost for me to go from
7.5 Inch lengh and
5 Inch Girth
to a 6 Inch Girth using Radiesse?
I guess I\'m gonna be the first guinea pig for this procedure next year..... even if it\'s more expensive

Thanks

Depends on the clinic. Why don\'t you call and get this forum a quote?