TOPIC: Dr. Loria

That\'s concerning. I\'d think we would want anyone\'s experience.

nohidingstyle wrote: That\'s concerning. I\'d think we would want anyone\'s experience.

Is it you that had to spend hours going trawling gay web cam sites etc, to prove to Loria patients are shills?

Lubeck
\"Sire\" is right
Hoddle has spent countless hours of his own unpaid time educating and protecting this site and its members from doctors of the likes of Loria, who prey on men\'s insecurities and manipulate and misinform with shills and misinformation

Btw, you say,
\"I searched the internet and found him. I must say when I stumbled on this site and saw disparaging remarks it kind of scared me. I am not a follower by nature so I take what people say with a grain of salt. It's all about factual evidence. I chose Him because the procedure is minimally evasive period.\"

If you were to search Dr. Loria on our site you would basically nothing but shilling, shenanigans, and zero results. What was the point of your research if you \"take everything with a grain of salt\"? And what facts are you talking about? I am speaking for myself but I know that if I saw just 1%of the crap that doctor Loria was up to, I would consider it a red flag head for the hills...I am quite sure most every member reading this post would do the same...You say \"it kind of scared me\"? You have one penis and everything you read about the doctor that is going to inject God knows what into your penis is negative and you are not disuaded? Just \"kinda scared\"? . I admire your bravery but am also curious why your grain of salt mentality doesn\'t extend to Dr. Loria (a doctor who been accused of shameful deeds and quackery). So you believe him so much now that you are eager to go onto a website with your initial post and start spreading the word?


I have spent years on this site and others smelling out shills, compensated patients advertising for a doctor for monetary gain or brownie points, and disingenuous posts....
This doesn\'t seem right to me....
Just my 2 cents....

why do i get this \"6th sense\" feeling that this is Loria or a well trained staffer trying to lure desperate men into his office. I am the only one that senses this? His statements feel very planned. By the way Lubeck if you truly are a legit patient, Hoddle10 doesn\'t speak for everyone this ain\'t no Bolshevik party of penile enthusiasts, so carry on [liberate us with an intel].

hoddle10 wrote:

nohidingstyle wrote: That\'s concerning. I\'d think we would want anyone\'s experience.

Is it you that had to spend hours going trawling gay web cam sites etc, to prove to Loria patients are shills?

Good point. Sorry!

What if Dr Elist , is pretending to be a obvious Dr Loria shill. to destroy the competition???? I wouldn\'t put it past him

messageman wrote: Lubeck \"Sire\" is right Hoddle has spent countless hours of his own unpaid time educating and protecting this site and its members from doctors of the likes of Loria, who prey on men\'s insecurities and manipulate and misinform with shills and misinformation Btw, you say, \"I searched the internet and found him. I must say when I stumbled on this site and saw disparaging remarks it kind of scared me. I am not a follower by nature so I take what people say with a grain of salt. It's all about factual evidence. I chose Him because the procedure is minimally evasive period.\" If you were to search Dr. Loria on our site you would basically nothing but shilling, shenanigans, and zero results. What was the point of your research if you \"take everything with a grain of salt\"? And what facts are you talking about? I am speaking for myself but I know that if I saw just 1%of the crap that doctor Loria was up to, I would consider it a red flag head for the hills...I am quite sure most every member reading this post would do the same...You say \"it kind of scared me\"? You have one penis and everything you read about the doctor that is going to inject God knows what into your penis is negative and you are not disuaded? Just \"kinda scared\"? . I admire your bravery but am also curious why your grain of salt mentality doesn\'t extend to Dr. Loria (a doctor who been accused of shameful deeds and quackery). So you believe him so much now that you are eager to go onto a website with your initial post and start spreading the word? I have spent years on this site and others smelling out shills, compensated patients advertising for a doctor for monetary gain or brownie points, and disingenuous posts.... This doesn\'t seem right to me.... Just my 2 cents....

I have debated whether to respond. Again I was just excited to share and hopefully learn how to increase the length of my penis. Here are facts the product used on me is artefill, approved by the FDA incredibly safe. It does not dissolve and stays localized in the area it is injected, i.e., face neck, hands, penis shaft. To me it was not rocket science or a sham, it makes sense. Look it up, google it. You will find many doctors in the USA that use it all the time. I am having my second treatment next Friday, I believe after it is done, I will have a Girth of 6.2' So after 21 days to fully recover, I am hoping one of you gents can teach me how to gain an Inch in length, how to do it so I won't hurt myself.

I have debated whether to respond. Again I was just excited to share and hopefully learn how to increase the length of my penis. Here are facts the product used on me is artefill, approved by the FDA incredibly safe. It does not dissolve and stays localized in the area it is injected, i.e., face neck, hands, penis shaft. To me it was not rocket science or a sham, it makes sense. Look it up, google it. You will find many doctors in the USA that use it all the time. I am having my second treatment next Friday, I believe after it is done, I will have a Girth of 6.2' So after 21 days to fully recover, I am hoping one of you gents can teach me how to gain an Inch in length, how to do it so I won't hurt myself.

Lubeck I will leave it to the moderators to judge the authenticity of your posts. However I can say this: No one can tell you how to gain an Inch in length. People can give you advice on a hundred different techniques from manual stretching through to complex and risky surgery but I am yet to see any real solid evidence of anyone who\'s gained an Inch in length from any method. I have seen some people get smaller gains but only to have it disappear when they stop \"working out\". There are even people who had surgery for length and they\'ve lost length!

But don\'t let me dissuade you or dampen your spirits. Do your research, try the methods you think are worthy, and after a few years of chronic stretching, rubbing, Hanging weights, or whatever else your think will work, please return to this forum and post your results.

Lubeck wrote: I have debated whether to respond. Again I was just excited to share and hopefully learn how to increase the length of my penis. Here are facts the product used on me is artefill, approved by the FDA incredibly safe. It does not dissolve and stays localized in the area it is injected, i.e., face neck, hands, penis shaft. To me it was not rocket science or a sham, it makes sense. Look it up, google it. You will find many doctors in the USA that use it all the time. I am having my second treatment next Friday, I believe after it is done, I will have a Girth of 6.2' So after 21 days to fully recover, I am hoping one of you gents can teach me how to gain an Inch in length, how to do it so I won't hurt myself.

Firstly, please avoid double posts, this isn\'t the first time you\'ve done them.

Secondly, we had a shill account suggest it was a product used that was not registered with the FDA. This would make way more sense than Artefill. Way more sense.

There are two incredibly difficult things to overcome when using Artefill for penis enlargement. First is the glaring issue of cost. Artefill is freaking expensive, and the amount of cc\'s used to augment the penis would surely cost you far more than what Dr. Loria is charging. On this note alone, I suspect you\'ve either been lied to, or that you are lying to us.

Secondly, Artefill\'s carrier (bovine) is not desirable for penis augmentation. The carrier takes much longer to absorb and thus leaves your penis that much more prone to aesthetic disfigurement during the recovery process.

These two reasons is why Artefill is best used in smaller amounts in places like the face. It\'s arguably the least desirable filler option available for penis enlargement. Sounds to me like Dr. Loria is trying to take a few steps back after suggesting he is using a non-FDA approved filler.

I also think it\'s remarkable that a bunch of new (zero post) accounts that have remained idle until this past week when Dr. Loria got busted again for his shenanigans. A sociopath practicing quackery, and I have absolutely no confidence in a single post made by any of the new round of alleged patients.

I cannot simply ban a member without strong evidence, but I can certainly warn readers that the Moderation team simply cannot trust the recent spate of postings regarding Dr. Loria. And let us not forget, we do have 2 confirmed Loria patients, and they so happen to regret their decisions.

Lubeck wrote: I have debated whether to respond. Again I was just excited to share and hopefully learn how to increase the length of my penis. Here are facts the product used on me is artefill, approved by the FDA incredibly safe. It does not dissolve and stays localized in the area it is injected, i.e., face neck, hands, penis shaft. To me it was not rocket science or a sham, it makes sense. Look it up, google it. You will find many doctors in the USA that use it all the time. I am having my second treatment next Friday, I believe after it is done, I will have a Girth of 6.2' So after 21 days to fully recover, I am hoping one of you gents can teach me how to gain an Inch in length, how to do it so I won't hurt myself.

Perfect. The best way to shut everyone up, lubeck, is simply take some before pictures and some afters after your procedure next Friday. The more the merrier! And a pic of the artefil. Look forward to your posts next Saturday!...

Artefill is $850 for 0.8 CCs - and it is 20% PMMA.

To get an equivalent result to 15ccs of Metacrill 20%, you would need $16,000 worth of Artefill (19 syringes @ $850).

Assuming you got a discount to $600 per syringe (which may be the lowest wholesale price - I think), you would still pay $11,200 for 15ccs of Artefill - for only 15ccs (and most PMMA patients here got 30% and 20ccs to gain 0.5-1\"). The doctor would make no money at this price, so you\'d still pay more.

Artefill in the penis would range from $12,000 to $18,000 for a treatment. There\'s no way around these prices. And, like S.O. said, the gains might be irregular & I don\'t think they would be as significant as 30% metacrill.

It\'s actually more likely he\'s injecting Metacrill or Linnea Safe, if he claims to be injecting any PMMA at all. Since this is illegal in the United States, then he obviously can\'t say he\'s injecting it. However, based on another patient\'s lack of results, I don\'t think he\'s injecting any PMMA product.

Hi fellas - I had 2 procedures done with dr. Loria - it\'s a tricky procedure. I\'m about 6 months out. 8k later - the shaft of my penis is a bit larger but only in a certain area. Not the entries shaft. The good news is unlike dr. Elist provider that can really mess you up this procudre just feels like I have a plastic gel ring inside my penis


I must say I was expecting better gains. PMMA sounds intense and dr. Kim\'s sounds solid.
I would not recommend dr loria it\'s still in barbaric stages. He changed the after care procedures twice in 2 months. The gains I had in the beginning regarding Girth were amazing but once the filler dissolves the end product is not the real deal.

I\'m happy to answer any question because this is important to us guys that care about our size - the pedant thing to me is the look and fee need to be natural.

I would like to thank everyone for the dr. Elist post I was considering it and after reading the storyline I\'m not. This message board is solid.

I just wish there was an easy solution for us guys that just want a couple inches of length and Girth.

Hi Mike, thanks for posting. Do you have any photos you\'d consider sharing?

Where did you hear about Dr Loria?

Glad you did not have any medical issues. In all truth none of the PE Dr\'s are to be trusted. They have selected this branch of medicine because they are outcasts within their professional circles. Elist is definitely the worst. Competent MD\'s can make an excellent income practicing traditional medicine. Only the bad ones stray to specialties like PE that seriously lack safety or ethics.

We have not had reports of bad complications with Loria, but yes several have mentioned the gains were temporary. The only thing platinum about the platinum procedure is the cost. I am curious what he promised you ? I would seriously consider asking him for a refund. An honest Dr would at least rebate you minus auxiliary costs. Doubt we will ever see one from Loria, Elist, or Cassavantes, or these other bozos.