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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274751728

HunkChunk wrote: PS. Photos are too large and I will have to post them later, as I get an error message! \"An error occured. Error. Storage limit exceeded.


Sorry gentlemen, it will just be a tad bit longer, but rest assured the photo viewing will resume as normal.

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274801038

Thanks SO, we know you\'re doing your best, and your best is superb when it comes to hosting the best website in cyberspace!


I\'ll try again in a few days to see if they\'ll post.


Cheers,


HC

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274809619

So I\'m new to PMMA. I just want to be clear on what it does. It makes your junk thicker , but not longer? Only Girth? Is that right?

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274810020

Hi Wannabe,


Yes, that\'s pretty much it in a nutshell. If you spend some time (weeks rather than days) reading up on threads in this forum, you will learn that there isn\'t yet a very good surefire way to get longer. I am only 5\" long, and there are those who are shorter yet. However I noticed that gaining extra Girth is a real revolution in my love life. What more can I say?


HC

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274903222


SESSION 3


Well folks, while I cannot attest to the final results yet, I have to say that I am very impressed, once again, by the professionalism and genuine caring for patients of Dr Luis Casavantes, Wade Zobel and Mel.


Today I went in for a full corrective session and had a long talk with all three of them regarding what was done, what problems arose and what could be done to address the issues.



CORRECTIVE MEASURES


Give the many imponderables, and the difficulty in isolating the factor(s) which resulted in irregular collagen formation, Dr C chose to eliminate every potential cause which could be acted upon:


- I wondered if it might be due to the pressure of swelling, which went rather wild, so Dr C first checked for its safety and then agreed to double my cortisone injection. Mel was kind enough to give me the two shots in the buttocks since the last one was noticed by a girlfriend who is a nurse, this way it is more discrete.


- I also wondered if I might not have had an adverse reaction with my metabolism attacking the carrier substance in which Metacryl is suspended. It is a different carrier in New Plastic recently renamed Linnea. Although costing more it seemed worthwhile to remove this risk by going back to the New Plastic with which I had great success in my first session.


- Finally, I was worried (although it seems unlikely) that issues might mixing or diluting the original factory packaged product sold in either 10% or in 30% concentration, so Dr C injected me with 10 CC\'s of 10% Linnea to fill and unify the surface of my unit and with 7 CC\'s of 30% Linnea to make the base the same Girth or wider than the shaft. Each vial was removed from its box before me and used in its original syringes furnished by the factory.


Regarding my issues, Dr C and Wade carefully inspected the trouble spots they had already taken note of in photos I had emailed to them. They discussed options and then agreed on the best way to proceed. Here is what was done:


- the semi-circular ring under the glans to the left side had already been softened enough by my applications of 10% hydrocortizone cream along with DMSO cream (applied sparingly in small quantity only a for a few days) that Dr C decided that a cortizone or Kenalog injection was not necessary. So he simply broke it up using a canula. This is done by punching holes in it to weaken the structure of the clumped material so that it collapses instead of standing up rigidly. Checking it out only a few hours after the session it now feels soft and natural and not at all like before.


- the thick clumped areas with clustered PMMA were similarly broken down until they became spongy and easy to integrate to the new material to permeate the area and englobe them. I hope this works as well as it seems to right after the intervention.


Injections were made through 4 entry points near the top of the shaft and the usual 2 entry points near the base. Wade took his time to show me in detail how to massage, and this might also be one of the reasons why I had bad results as I probably started too late and then used way too much force to smash material as well as my unit, likely contributing to the complications. He also agreed that since I was going to the hotel next door, it was best to not wrap it at all as I would just be unwrapping it minutes later.


As it turns out one sort of sculpts it as if it were made of wet clay (those who have done ceramics will know what I mean). You simply gently stroke the surface to ensure it is perfectly smooth, and very softly repeatedly with only a tiny amount of pressure rock the bumps back and forth until it smooths out on its own. This must be done in the initial period when the material sets. The border can take a long time to cross, and for this reason I recommend staying in Tijuana as I did, the Marriott is right nearby.



INITIAL CONCLUSIONS


It was only a few short hours ago but I must share my temporary conclusions.


My unit has not at all reacted in the same way as before. It could be because I took 4 daily doses of homeopathic arnica montana in intakes spaced 6 hours instead of 24 hours apart. It could also be because I rubbed Arnican cream many times on my unit in the 12 hours preceding the session. It could also be due to having a double dose of cortisone injection. Or it might be because I avoided an adverse reaction to the Metacryl carrier (do I have an allergy?) by Dr C\'s use of \"Linnea/New Plastic\" instead.


Also for some reason the product seems to be hardening more gradually and more slowly than the 2nd session\'s Metacryl did. Could this have to do with the solution it is suspended in or might it be that my body reacts differently to the two products? In any case I am able to intervene on the lumps forming which wasn\'t the case last time, as they were lost and buried under thick masses of fluid from swelling. This time around it is only slightly swollen six hours later and I can still intervene - this was not at all the case last time. Go figure, as my case seems different than most.


Tomorrow morning I am scheduled for inspection by Dr C and Wade and they will still be able to intervene should anything be an issue. I am not only very reassured but once again pleased with having chosen the PMMA path for Phalloplasty. I have high hopes for the results of this session which so far seems both corrective and enhancing. Thus far the shape is perfectly tubular, I took photos I shall post the day that this re-becomes possible here. It looks quite natural and pleasantly proportioned. I will keep you posted on the progress as it unfolds.


Cheers,


Hunk Chunk

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274912849

Hey...I\'m new to the site...and I wanted to thank you guys for all the info you have been providing.
You can see from my screenname that I\'ve been mulling over getting P.E for a long time and after find thing forum, its time to make a decision.

Got a couple of questions after reading a lot in the forum.
Have any you had any experiences with any doctors in the U.S.
How much is a fair cost
I hear alot about touch ups and sessions...when you got to go back for those...is it painful.
How long after your initial surgery were you able to go back to work
thanks for the info

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274921849

I had an experience with a US Dr. Loria in Boca Raton, FL. I have no problems with him, but his treatment did not work for me. And it was twice the cost of Dr. C. I went o Dr. C two weeks ago and I am very happy so far. I will go back next month.

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274925817

I have been observing the reports of others who have injected PMMA into their Cock to decided if it is safe enough for my own Cock.

If I don\'t observe any major complications in other guys for 5 years, would that be sufficient evidence that I should take the dive?

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274926914

When injected into other body parts, serious complications of PMMA have been observed even after 10 years. However, there is a vector of parameters which you should take into account when looking at (old) cases like that: product type, administration procedure, sub cutaneous vs deep injections, etc.

At any rate, in this forum long-term risks have been discussed in various threads: take a look around and make your own judgment.

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274927004

Well I have been following the discussions on PMMA since the days of the original forum. Even today I continue to learn more about the pros and potential cons.

I still get the feeling that this operation is in a developmental stage, though. I guess I should have phrased my question differently. On a scale of 1 to 5, how sophisticated do members feel Dr. C\'s PMMA operation is?

1 = experimental, 5 = as sophisticated as it could be

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1274927105

I agree with you: the procedure is in a developmental stage. The fact that Dr C. continues to change/modify ccs and concentration is evidence of that. But more importantly we do not have medium/long-term clinical studies on penis bioplasty via PMMA even though this operation was pioneered at least six years ago, if not earlier.

For what it\'s worth I personally would rank it exactly in the middle at 3.

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1275216794

Hi Supa,

I guess you\'re realistic to estimate the knowledge point about PMMA Phalloplasty at the midrange level. I concur. However we are all rapidly moving up the learning curve thanks to information sharing here and to doctors courageous enough to propose this procedure despite it not being totally pre-ordained for them in advance.

Regarding my own case, I shall be back soon to post more information and photos, if that feature has been reactivated in this forum. In the meanwhile I shall say that most of my issues were addressed by Dr C during my 3rd session which also brought a most appreciated enhancement as far as the ladies are concerned... Isn\'t that what this is all about? lol

More soon,

Hunk Chunk

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1275377971

Now that the image issues are resolved would you care to show any of your pre/post round 3 photos?

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1277449309

hey hunk that\'s good to hear, so as summary what complications are you left with now ?
size loss still irregularities whatnot.
also ye the usual picture question as jlmb already requested.

nice to hear that your lumps where sorted out. before after pics as proof please ; )

greets

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PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly 13 years 11 months ago #1277467392

@jlmb

Hi, yeah, I tried about a dozen times last fall and wound up discouraged. Those photos however are on a semi-dead PC computer which expired right afterwards and I am now using a Mac. I will soon be trying to transfer all the data stored on that machine if I can resurrect it - up to now it seems that reformatting might be the only way. So I guess I will have to buy an external drive to transfer what\'s on its drive, once I have taken the laptop apart to remove it. It is actually a netbook which doesn\'t have one of those convenient trap doors for hard drive Removal.


@aestheticgirth

Funny you should choose a name which corresponds to my biggest preoccupation back when I started out here. Now it has been knocked down a few notches, as I am not long enough to really deliver that. I think one needs to be 6.5 to 7.5 to have great Girth and great aesthetics. For shorter dudes it becomes finding a compromise between Girth and taper to not look to much like a stump. Essentially, I think it probably requires more sessions for shorter guys to achieve a proper aesthetic result with PMMA if they want to gain a good bit of Girth. Soon I go in for my 4th session and I am already thinking about a 5th. I will post photos as soon as I gain access to them again.

Cheers,

HC

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