TOPIC: PMMA - The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

Addendum


I just read DarkSide\'s account of degloving for what may be lesser cosmetic problems than those I had, which were solved by Dr C, so I better understand why you need to see pictures proving that this can be done. So I\'ll push myself to get onto it sooner than later.

Degloving is pretty extreme, and I think that it may have been prompted by pressure from other doctors who have heard too many warnings about Phalloplasty gone bad and who associate PMMA with the many issues in other areas of the body. Even my surgeon in Russia who used to rebuild penises out of shoulder muscles tossed my PMMA around acting like it was garbage. I think that when they don\'t know better about a given technique, the usual reaction is to think it isn\'t any good. Whatever their reasons are, they are their own. In the case of PMMA I wonder what value can be placed on a second opinion from a Urologist or a general practitioner.

HC

@aesthetic girth

To begin in answering your question regarding photo evidence of my misadventures and their resolution by Dr C, here is the Ugly part of the episode in images. Of course, when this is happening to your own unit and accompanied by physical discomfort and the idea that your girlfriends will discover the object of your distress when fumbling about in your pants - it all takes on a very different impact.

If you recall, my session 2 was accompanied by a what I currently believe to have been a violent allergic reaction to the carrier in Metacryl brand PMMA. My initial result looked very nice and could probably be confirmed by the after photos taken by Dr C after each of his PMMA sessions. This however didn\'t last, because my unit started to swell like mad within its bandage, and I had to take it off after a few hours to discover that the wet PMMA fluid had lumped to the sides and was accompanied with some nasty assymetrical swelling. Believe me I panicked.


18 Hours Post Op 2nd Session, July 2012
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Bumpy and Lumpy Flaccid after 2nd session PMMA stabilization
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Flaccid with skin pulled tight after 2nd session PMMA stablization
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Flaccid with tip pulled in length after 2nd session PMMA stablization
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Stretched flaccid with distorsions after 2nd session PMMA stablization
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Stretched flaccid with distorsions in a second photo
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Shaft with hard ridge on a ring to left side after 2nd session PMMA stablization
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Flaccid with collagen cluster on left side after 2nd session PMMA stablization
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Flaccid with collagen cluster on right side after 2nd session PMMA stablization
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For those interested, I will have you note that these issues were ALL resolved by Dr C and Nurse Wade Zobel during my 3rd PMMA session only two months later.


I shall upload photos of my 3rd session Post Op as soon as I can locate them and post them here. Suffice to know that in September Dr C made 6 entry holes up and down my shaft and spent a lot of time, with Wade\'s advice, puncturing and softening any hardened PMMA in places where it shouldn\'t be. He then replenished my entire unit in a nice amount of fresh PMMA (without a carrier to which I was allergic). He only used Linnea-Safe fresh out of the factory tube, in 30% form and in 10% form as a precautionary measure. This produced zero negative reactions in my body. From now on I won\'t use anything else. Thanks Dr C and Wade!


Hunk Chunk

So, Hunk, after reading lots of PMMA posts, it came to me that most of the complications and side effects of Dr. C practice came after the introduction os METACRILL PMMA... Could you endorse this guess of mine? Also, what is this Linnea You reffer to? another brand? How did your body react to it?

Thanks in advance

@adc555

Actually, the Linnea-Safe is just a renaming of the earlier New Plastic, made by the same manufacturer with new packaging and marketing.

My first session I was very happy with was with New Plastic. My second session I had problems with was with the cheaper Metacryl. Most guys like it and have no issues with it.

My third session was with Linnea-Safe only, as I was very wary of Metacryl\'s carrier which my body seems to have reacted to adversely. I was again very satisfied. Last September when I was there it cost $250 extra to have Linnea-Safe instead of Metacryl.

Despite my problems, I cannot be 100% sure of the cause and also my case is quite an exception, with few having such strong reactions to a PMMA session. I think that it was my swelling that messed up the PMMA distribution in the early stages, causing clumping which Dr C kindly sorted out for me later.

HC

How did your third session go?

My life story is similar to your\'s I\'m currently around 4.7 Erect Girth and 5.1 boned pressed Erect length, really considering getting PMMA in the near future

Darkside didn\'t even have it in for long, not even enough time for his body to get used to it, and he took a drastic step of degloving. In my opinion over reacting, even sometimes with new medication, people will have diarrhea, vomiting e.t.c before their body accepts it.

It\'s interesting to see how your body reacted to the carrier. I don\'t know why new plastic is more expensive, since HA carriers aren\'t. Metacrill should improve their carrier. I wonder if it also has to do with the particle sizes.

This is why I think people should have like 10 to 15 cc of PMMA of 10% in the first round to see how their body reacts to it. Most issues seem to resolve after a few months. Nice to see your happy now hunkchunk.

You say it is an unrealistic expectation for a girl to take it in their mouth and not realize somethings up. Can you elaborate here? Since I would definitely not like that.

Also how does sex feel after? Is it worse in any way

Nobody notices it with oral... 30+ experiences...nobody said anything. They actually like it. It has a thicker / heavier feel in the skin, when most dicks - the skin slides more easily...that\'s the only difference. I\'m not overly enhanced, though... I mean, I have like 0.5\"-0.75\" of PMMA additional EG. Maybe if you get to 1.0-2.0\" of PMMA EG then it becomes more noticeable. Someone like sizemic or briceb would know... they havent said anything like this to my memory.

Also, look in the polls section, you\'ll see a variety of replies to \"yes it feels different when im hard\" or \"no it feels the same\" - at 10 and 30 percent.

I have only gained .5\" so I can\'t really speak to anything over that, either. But I have had the same experience as Restoration. Nobody notices a thing with mine.

pdude wrote: You say it is an unrealistic expectation for a girl to take it in their mouth and not realize somethings up. Can you elaborate here? Since I would definitely not like that.

Also how does sex feel after? Is it worse in any way

Depends on how much PMMA you have, how good the results are and so on.

I think generally speaking, if you have a couple of \"good sessions\" most likely no one will notice. Most women will not notice with oral or vaginal. I have had 4 sessions and no girl had said anything about it, but all could not take more than 1-2 inches so not good if you like oral (It is not a big deal for me anyway). But I suspect most gay men will since they have a Dick and know exactly how it is supposed to feel like. But Restoration and another guy have been lucky and I happy for them...

Live long and sex long

And how about your own sensation? In my head I imagine a hard coat in your Dick that would feel weird, but thats of course since I\'ve got nothing to go off of. But it would suck to do a round and then have sex/bj feel off for the rest of your life.

Sensation is the same after the procedure for me. I think there\'s a poll on this too...most say it\'s similar - a few say it is heightened for a variety of reasons.

sorry briceb - i got confused (i forgot you started out pretty big) i didn\'t realize you just got 0.5\"

Well - anyway, bruno posted a lot about his experience gaining over 1\" Girth & he is also gay & has not gotten any complains.

the only weird comment I got was when someone thought I was uncut bc of the ridge i have at the circ scar - they were like - wait are you uncut - oh no nevermind. I just said I had an adult Circumcision. You can get ridges and lumps, though - so then that would require some explanation...or entry point nodules (though these usually go away)

@restoration;

generally speaking, do gay men prefer: length, Girth, or Both?

Do they care if some one has \"modified their Dick?

What percentage would guess that some gay men DO NOT care about length, Girth or both given that the coupe have a long term relatioship?

I think they like both - probably (in real inches, not sex website inches) any combo of 6-7.5\" length and 5.25-5.75\" Girth is the happy zone... and some are more piggish than others about demanding it & literally refusing to date / hook up with anyone who doesn\'t meet their minimum requirements.

Nobody I know would care that someone modified it...as long as the modification made it bigger not smaller...lol. VERY few men even know that true penile enlargement even exists. I had peryonies & shrinkage for 4 years until I found out about PMMA! And you can imagine i was online every day researching this stuff. I told this brazilian guy i hooked up with i had PMMA - cuz I thought he\'d know about it or have some comment... but he had no idea (though he knew about hydrogel and that model who lost her leg). he was just like \"oh u wanted more self confidence? that\'s cool\" - he just didn\'t care. I think they\'re GLAD it\'s enhanced... cuz then they get a bigger Dick. of course he said the obligatory \"i\'m sure you didn\'t really need to do that\" but that\'s cuz he was nice. Not everyone is nice.

I really think it\'s hard to give a percentage who do not care... not only because people are so different, and so many gay relationships are open. So if your partner is 5x4 then you can go online & meet someone w/ a big Dick for a quick hookup to satisfy your big Dick cravings while you split your mortgage & go home to your partner. So, maybe 50% don\'t care if the relationship is open. I think 90% would care if they couldn\'t play around on the side & this was the last Dick they were ever gonna see...but that also goes for \"too big\" too. There aren\'t many in that category, but it\'s not fun to have sex w/ a Coke can. Also, some guys w/ huge dicks are notoriously bad in bed bc they just think you should do all the work and worship their dicks, basically.

Lately, since I had the procedure and am basically 6 x 4.8 (the true male average I think) - I am more picky about size too...but even though I\'ve been lifting weights a lot more, I am not that picky about body type...it\'s a funny thing. I hooked up w/ this one thin (but kinda good looking) guy last night cuz he had a huge HUGE Dick (that also was shaped like a C... which...was complicated...)... and then, I just kinda blew off this average guy who had a tiny Dick. In the past, I would\'ve taken whatever i could get. Oh and then one guy I was actually the most attracted to was totally average / smaller than average, but he would win out of all 3 of them cuz he was more my type.

I guess this was a confusing reply... but it\'s hard to explain.

Restoration wrote: Sensation is the same after the procedure for me. I think there\'s a poll on this too...most say it\'s similar - a few say it is heightened for a variety of reasons.

sorry briceb - i got confused (i forgot you started out pretty big) i didn\'t realize you just got 0.5\"

Well - anyway, bruno posted a lot about his experience gaining over 1\" Girth & he is also gay & has not gotten any complains.

the only weird comment I got was when someone thought I was uncut bc of the ridge i have at the circ scar - they were like - wait are you uncut - oh no nevermind. I just said I had an adult Circumcision. You can get ridges and lumps, though - so then that would require some explanation...or entry point nodules (though these usually go away)

Isn\'t scarring from surgery though? Thought this just was injection more or less.