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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283980359

In a couple of weeks.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283988465

\"Hi,I can do the same price if the injection IS less than one month after the first because i can keep the half seringe 4 weeks in the fridge but not more when it s open. If we do like that i Will ask you 1680' for the first and nothing for the second injection.If we must wait more than for weeks, i am obliged to take a second seringe of 20 ml for the second injection. In that case you Will h've to pay unfortunatly for a new seringe so 1680' for the first and 1200 for the second.Best regards\" Do you think a 4 week gap would be enough time to carry out your original plan?

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283988576

Closer wrote: \"Hi,I can do the same price if the injection IS less than one month after the first because i can keep the half seringe 4 weeks in the fridge but not more when it s open. If we do like that i Will ask you 1680' for the first and nothing for the second injection.If we must wait more than for weeks, i am obliged to take a second seringe of 20 ml for the second injection. In that case you Will h've to pay unfortunatly for a new seringe so 1680' for the first and 1200 for the second.Best regards\" Do you think a 4 week gap would be enough time to carry out your original plan?


I don\'t know. I guess so as it\'s not like you need to wait for collagen to form or anything. It\'s just to see if it looks and feels natural.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283988866

Fingers crossed that the \'\'special\'\' type of Hyaluronic Acid that he uses [as referred to from 5.30 onwards in the video you posted] really does give a firmer and more natural result.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283994384

Regrettably I dont\' remember where I got the information that Dr. Viel once offered and then stopped using Macrolane for PE. Surely I have not dreamed it up though.

At any rate, it would seem that he currently offers it (again?): www.cosmeticsurgerytoday.co.uk/featured-article/man-oh-man/

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283994638

Thanks Supa!

According to that article he charges '2500 for Macrolane! I\'m pretty sure he uses 50cc though, so may reduce the price for less.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283996284

Thanks Supa.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1283997266

I contacted Viel\'s place by email less than a year ago asking about macrolane and was told they didn\'t offer it anymore. Maybe they changed their minds recently or something though, that article is new.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1284058870

This may have already been postedhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3483579/

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1284145308

Had the consultation with Mr. Viel. He seemed like a good guy. He no longer offers macrolane as apparently patients complained that friction during sex altered it\'s shape/distribution. I asked if such problems might be avoided with more conservative injection volumes but he didn\'t seem to think it would make much difference.Seeing as I was there anyway, I enquired about his FFT procedure even though I hadn\'t ever considered it as an option. He gave the impression that it\'s both a safe and effective procedure, summarised in this extract from a detailed leaflet that his secretary [more about her in a minute] gave me at the end of the consultation:\'\'Like all operations, Penoplasty is not without complications, they are rare but can occur. These include infection, bleeding, numbness to the affected areas, scarring, collection of blood under the skin, known as haematoma or blood clot; although this occurs in less than 1% of patients and drains and heals spontaneously.In some cases with enlargement surgery the penis may be asymmetrical or lumps may occur due to the position of the fat. Gentle massage should normally resolve this problem. Penoplasty is now an established cosmetic procedure, having been performed for the last 10 years. It is both a safe and effective procedure and, with no foreign material or implants introduced, the complications are rare. The London Centre for Aesthetic surgery alone performs approximately 200 per year and is a recognised centre of surgical excellence in the UK.\'\'In regards to FFT\'s permanency he said that top ups may be needed over a period of 2 years [the duration of time they store your fat for], but after that the vast majority of the fat should remain unless the patient goes on an extreme low fat diet and loses weight elsewhere on the body. He gave an example of a patient who still had fat remaining after 15 years.I\'d be very tempted by all this were it not for the fact that it\'s in such conflict with this forum\'s general consensus on FFT. But it did get me wondering whether FFT specifically in Mr Viel\'s hands might in fact be a viable option? Is it possible that most of the negative reports on this procedure come from patients of other [less skilled] doctors? Or is the extract I quoted [and Mr. Viel\'s testimony] rubbish? To my surprise he also offers a temporary glands enlargement with Truvaderm [Hyaluronic Acid] as part of the FFT procedure. Interestingly, and in contrast to concerns raised by some members of this board, he didn\'t remotely agree that the glands was a higher risk area. During the physical examination he confirmed that my size is \'\'fine/average\'\' and that I didn\'t need anything done..which I guess was nice to hear coming from someone who\'s been intimately acquainted with so many dicks in his time. But needless to say it did nothing to quell my desire for an enhancement.When the consultation was concluded he said that he\'d take me to his secretary to settle up and be given further information etc. In my head I was praying that this secretary would be some overweight balding male or the like. Never in my life have I been so disappointed to see a young attractive blonde woman. \'\'Will you please give Mr X the leaflet on penile enlargement\'\'....I wouldn\'t be surprised if the complexion on my cheeks matched her red lipstick. I began to wish he\'d raised his voice for all to hear when commenting on the averageness of my dimensions. They really should have a rule against employing women in these places, especially good looking ones.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1284145866

I didn\'t like my FFT result with Mr Viel. However, there are 2 forum members that had FFT with him and were pleased. However, there are two others, aside from me, who weren\'t happy.

I just didn\'t like the fact that it felt squishy and when most of the fat was still there, I had difficulty getting condoms on as the fat was too soft. But I\'ve spoken with others who said their FFT felt firm and they had no issue\'s with condoms.

I my opinion skin compliancy is key with FFT, just as with PMMA.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1284146315

So is a high degree of skin pliability a good or bad thing in your opinion?Mr Viel said that removing the fat can be risky/problematic. Did you have yours removed? Any other complications other than not liking the feel? Uneven distribution, lumps, unnatural aesthetics, nodules, infections etc? Feel free to direct me to a thread that answers all these questions if re-writing it all is tedious. It\'s a shame our sample pool is so small, but I\'m in no hurry to fork out over 4 grand for a 2 out of 5 satisfaction rate. I need to give it some more thought, but at the moment I\'m leaning towards spending a fraction of the price and flying to Nice. After all, Dr. Oudot did say that he uses a \'special\' type of Hyaluronic Acid which is altered to be thicker. I suppose it\'s plausible that a thicker concentration might circumvent the kind of issues that Mr Viel\'s macrolane patients described. I also wonder whether it\'s possible that lower volume injections would still make a difference too, despite what Mr. Viel said. Not to say he purposely deceived me. Maybe he just made up his mind with regards to macrolane after having a number of dissatisfied patients, and didn\'t give much consideration to different volume levels [as there\'s less demand for it]. Plus, if he thinks he can offer the most safe and effective enlargement procedure for a higher price [FFT], then it makes no business sense for him to recommend a filler which he\'s no longer in the business of providing.

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1284146543

I just searched the forum and read about your FFT Removal [should have done that before asking].

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1284173296

I recently emailed Dr. Oudot to ask him about his patient satisfaction rate and how many of his patients are satisfied enough to return for more than one procedure. This was his reply:\'\'i have performed 1200 Penoplasty at the end of 2013 and i do 2 or 3 every day. 95% of my patient are continuing the adventure with me since 6 years.\'\'

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Temporary fillers 13 years 2 months ago #1284173959

I don\'t believe that!

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