TOPIC: Dr. Muhammed Mirza

I am still on the fence about what he did - I think he went way to superficially at first and I kind of don\'t believe that patients who get HA walk out looking like the way I do - but can\'t say for sure. It is not subtle, the injection sites seem to be a little arbitrary too. I am calm about it as it is not cancer or anything serious, and Thursday of I am wrong I will get more because it looks good and this was just the healing process - or I will get it dissolved. Very happy you can get it dissolved in 24-48 hours.
My expectations going in were to get a little and be underwhelmed but take a wait and see approach. This is as of 24 hours latter a mess. I am shooting MM a pic and see what it looks like in comparison to his. However - the front half of my Dick where he did the glans looks and feel 100% natural.
I still don\'t understand what he meant half way through the procedure when he asked if I wanted him to go deeper as that is what he does to increase Girth? What else was I getting injections of HA in my Dick for? lol.
I suppose if I went to him and told him go deeper as I want Girth it would look a lot better - but I didn\'t know that and I thought it was understood by me saying I want to fill out my penis as the skin is stretched from a previous Phalloplasty. When he looked at my Dick he said your Girth is fine so I think he didn\'t see it as a Girth enhancement and just tried to put it all right under the skin to fill it out which did not work. Juvederm is too dense for that.
I have to admit it though, having a Dick that I feel is big is really important to me, it makes me feel better so that is just reality I have to factor in.

The thought just hit me. Does HA make you turtle or lose Girth? And since Bellafill is basically PMMA does it mean you will turtle?

No HA does the opposite if anything - HA adds Girth and makes you turtle less. The HA basically stays in your Dick and slowly absorbs over the course of a year.
At the same time, it goes in denser than than your tissue and softens as it absorbs water from your system over the course of a few days to a week.

The Bellafill goes in more liquidy I think - it is mixed with bovine collagen and that absorbs away over the course of a month, and leaves the tiny beads which stimulate the collagen. But since it takes longer to absorb than the PMMA Dr. C uses which from what I understand gives you a 2-3 day window. Bellafill is either a plus or a minus in terms of molding your Dick -

On another note, I did pump my Dick at the office yesterday Which reminded me of the time I jerked off in class under my desk when I was in 5th grade., lol.

Lol meant lose inches. I know a lot of members lost some length after getting PMMA. I have no problem with HA but I really want to penis to be very thick and I don\'t think I will have the money to reup every 6months.

So if i can get Bellafill and it doesn\'t take any length, and I can be thick as I want then that\'s great.

I thought that was an odd question coming from you.
I don\'t know much about PMMA to be honest - but I would bet Bellafill is no more or less likely to shorten your Dick than any other PPMA proceedure. I\'d check the board to see as I feel like I have seen it reported as happening more than once.

I would be good if you could get him to inject it using a micro cannula, I think this I safer and gives better results, I had 70ml injected and it was literally impossible to tell where it had been injected

I woke up this morning and it felt completely soft and natural, it sort of gave me a new understanding of the stuff.

Reklaw, I think the issue after talking to Mischiefmaker, is that I did not have enough yet to get an ideal outcome, I only had 3cc\'s so it is impossible to spread that evenly around your Dick - I think the most I will need is 6cc\'s more. Mirza thought I would only need a total of 5cc\'s - I wanted 15, but 9 feels like it will do the trick. (I am really glad I did not get the 20cc\'s Heller said I would need).

That will make this s $3,000 experiment. If I can get away with going back once a year for $1,500 expecting a 50% loss, and a 20 minute procedure I would consider that a victory. If it only lasts 5-6 months then I would probably not pursue this as the cost gets steep for me but also I don\'t want the stress of a new procedure every 6 months. But I am also completely prepared now if this doesn\'t work to let it absorb over time and move on from PE. I think I needed to revisit the \"fix\" one more time.

I did realize I have a bit of PTSD when it comes to Dick stuff - thanks to MM and GJ for being so supportive. GJ who is a private guy even gave me his cell and said feel free to call - just knowing you have access to a conversation makes a huge difference; and MM got pics of my Dick for analysis and was a huge help.

I also realized how relative PE is. Objectively, my old Dick which had 7\" Girth from the DFG was way bigger - but I feel like my Dick now is almost as big - if I get 6 cc\'s I am sure I would not be able to tell the difference. 6 cc\'s more is not going to get me to 7\" Girth - but it is just a big mind fuck. Mentally I compare what my Dick looks like to what it looked like before I went in for the procedure and it is much bigger - so it ends up feeling the same.

I also think having less would look better on me too. Who wants to see a 52-year-old with triple D\'s, lol. If it continues like this over the next few days I will go back on Thursday and get the 6cc\'s and call it a day for 2016 anyways.

From talking to GJ and MM - it seems like 3cc\'s gives you about .25\" - which seems crazy but that is basically what we all got. They both had 14cc\'s and got over an Inch approximately.


I am also completely prepared now if this doesn\'t work to let it absorb over time and move on from PE.

hunkydory wrote: I woke up this morning and it felt completely soft and natural, it sort of gave me a new understanding of the stuff.

Reklaw, I think the issue after talking to Mischiefmaker, is that I did not have enough yet to get an ideal outcome, I only had 3cc\'s so it is impossible to spread that evenly around your Dick - I think the most I will need is 6cc\'s more. Mirza thought I would only need a total of 5cc\'s - I wanted 15, but 9 feels like it will do the trick. (I am really glad I did not get the 20cc\'s Heller said I would need).

That will make this s $3,000 experiment. If I can get away with going back once a year for $1,500 expecting a 50% loss, and a 20 minute procedure I would consider that a victory. If it only lasts 5-6 months then I would probably not pursue this as the cost gets steep for me but also I don\'t want the stress of a new procedure every 6 months. But I am also completely prepared now if this doesn\'t work to let it absorb over time and move on from PE. I think I needed to revisit the \"fix\" one more time.

I did realize I have a bit of PTSD when it comes to Dick stuff - thanks to MM and GJ for being so supportive. GJ who is a private guy even gave me his cell and said feel free to call - just knowing you have access to a conversation makes a huge difference; and MM got pics of my Dick for analysis and was a huge help.

I also realized how relative PE is. Objectively, my old Dick which had 7\" Girth from the DFG was way bigger - but I feel like my Dick now is almost as big - if I get 6 cc\'s I am sure I would not be able to tell the difference. 6 cc\'s more is not going to get me to 7\" Girth - but it is just a big mind fuck. Mentally I compare what my Dick looks like to what it looked like before I went in for the procedure and it is much bigger - so it ends up feeling the same.

I also think having less would look better on me too. Who wants to see a 52-year-old with triple D\'s, lol. If it continues like this over the next few days I will go back on Thursday and get the 6cc\'s and call it a day for 2016 anyways.

From talking to GJ and MM - it seems like 3cc\'s gives you about .25\" - which seems crazy but that is basically what we all got. They both had 14cc\'s and got over an Inch approximately.


I am also completely prepared now if this doesn\'t work to let it absorb over time and move on from PE.

That\'s very encouraging from my perspective. As I said before, I don\'t believe this stuff will last long in the penis. If you look at the life expectancy in the lips compared to the dermis, it seems to be about 30% less, so I\'d guess it\'s about 50% for the penis. SO that means top ups every 4 months. At 3cc a time, I could handle that. It\'s not too expensive and relatively stress free. The only thing is the fucking needle. I know the risk is small, but it will be a constant worry for me, in the weeks before a top up and in the day or 2 afterwards. Next time you see him, you should really encourage Dr M to consider a micro cannula.

Do you think if HA was injected just on one side of the penis, it would be obvious that it is there and not on the other side. On the left I think Silikon1000 is my only option, but I want as little permanent filler as possible. It should blend in nicely with the scar tissue on that side, as it\'s all collagen after all. But I\'m worried there would be an obvious contrast in texture if I had a few ml of HA on the other side.

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Hoddle, everything I read about this stuff says that the more you have, the less you lose % wise. In the lips you get a max of .8 - 1cc. I think if you are getting more it reduces less as it binds to itself.

Right now my Dick is still a bit bumpy but I also see how no way 3cc\'s is enough of anything to smooth out across my Dick. The texture got so much better over-night, it feels very organic. If it continues this way I will get 6 cc\'s on Thursday, let it heal for a week or 2, take a pic and will know how I feel about it. I wish my Dick was as a dynamic an organ as it was in my 30\'s and 40\'s but maybe it will get more dynamic in the future I am less on the fence as I was when I got it. The Juvederm although a soft filler - is not that soft when it goes in - the cause of my freakout. As it absorbs water - I read that it can take up to a week or 2 - it is much more like human tissue.

I think when I go back I will be much more involved in the procedure - put some here, don\'t want it there - can you fix that etc. If you were to have just one side done I think it would work well, it would just feel like a very soft vein. Also, because PMMA is done in large volumes - like 20+ cc\'s I thought I was in for that as well and financially that would be an issue. You really need very little of this stuff to see a big difference. The absolute most I would need to really get my Dick over 6 inches is 12 cc\'s - and 9 is fine - I don\'t care so much about a number so long as I look at it and think that looks good.

It is not a huge investment over the course of a year - but I\'ll need a year to figure out how much I lose. This is still a work in progress. Lastly, there is almost no pain - it has lidocaine in it - and worst-case scenario - you buy a microcannula and insist that they use it - sounds a little nutty but that is one way to make sure it is used. Or you insist that they buy one - most doctors would oblige I am sure.

FYI I had Juvederm Plus Ultra XC which is the one that is just below the Volume one MM was talking about in terms of density.

Doctor m will use a cannula if you ask? Not sure if he ever used it before, but there\'s no harm in asking.

My sister has been having Restylane in her lips for 4 years, when she started doing it she needed a top up every 4 months but now she only needs a top up every 8 months which suggests there has been a bit of soft tissue build up or something, I don\'t see why the same wouldn\'t apply for the penis.

I\'ve just read that Androfil do 1ml for '500. At that price it\'s awfully tempting, just to see how it feels.

I would definitely try it out - just ask him to disperse it a lot so you don\'t get a little mound - then wait a week or 2 to get a sense of the feel. I have been drinking extra water to see if that makes a difference in hydrating it. I can\'t say if it helps but doesn\'t hurt.