TOPIC: New HA filler claiming to last up to 5 years

Francis I may book an appointment to come in and see if Dr. Horn can look and judge what has gone on here, if thats ok?

Yes come in tomorrow from 5:00pm until 8:00pm just call in and Dr Horn will tell you which layer it is in and if he thinks it is a problem.

If it were me, I would not just ask Dr Horn, I would also make an appointment with Dr Ralph on Harley Street.
We direct patients to Dr Ralph when they come in with weird things injected like paraffin or (less often) if they have pmma issues.

www.londonurology.org.uk/consultants/mr-david-ralph/

Can you feel it just under the skin, like it is attaching itself to the outer skin?
See Dr Horn and Dr Ralph if you are worried.

mediatps wrote: Also maybe its worth you guys at Androfill just clarifying how you can actually make sure you inject into the right layer? I assume we\'re talking about tiny differences between the skin and actual corpus cavernosum. How can you be certain you are in the right layer? Do you also think the difference in my outcome is entirely related to that? It would be good to hear your thoughts.

Does yours still feel the same? I\'ve read about the accordian effect with all fillers, so the fact you have it isn\'t that surprising. But I\'ve never read of PMMA feeling how you\'ve described it. Even Nagianati, who said what you are describing is common said this about his own PMMA:

\"When I\'m hard, the PMMA is rock hard\"

Yet yours doesn\'t sound hard at all. I had 10%, which is less than half the density of what you\'ve have had injected and mine clearly has a firmness to it.

I\'ve got to say, I\'m slightly skeptical that you\'ve even had PMMA. If Dr A doesn\'t even receive it in proper packaging, how does he know what it is?

With mine I could easily see how some people get nodules etc, as it clearly has a \"scar tissue\" like feel to it. Yet you said you can\'t understand how it\'s possible for nodules to form based on what you can feel. To me that just doesn\'t sound like PMMA.

Does yours still feel almost like a liquid?

mediatps wrote: I am very much regretting having taken the risk that I did. I think there is a lot of great superficial information about different types of fillers, their dangers, etc but not enough about the details of how they are injeced within the penile anatomy.

I don\'t think lack of information on injection technique is your problem. If you read Dr C\'s description of his technique (EIT) in his PMMA study would that have made you do something differently? Like go to mexico?

Francis, you seem busy. But can I get that information I requested? Glad to see the forum is alive and well, very useful information all around.
Regards
LL

Androfill in Vancouver, Canada will begin in the 2nd half of April 2019.
Dr H is training at a urology franchise which will then offer HA across Canada.
During the training period, the price of HA is 25% below the London Androfill price, which makes HA probably a 40-50% lower cost than anywhere in North America during this training.

www.vcita.com/v/c02f4231ef01e433/online_scheduling#/services
Or message for booking/info.

Androfill wrote:
Yes come in tomorrow from 5:00pm until 8:00pm just call in and Dr Horn will tell you which layer it is in and if he thinks it is a problem.

If it were me, I would not just ask Dr Horn, I would also make an appointment with Dr Ralph on Harley Street.
We direct patients to Dr Ralph when they come in with weird things injected like paraffin or (less often) if they have pmma issues.

www.londonurology.org.uk/consultants/mr-david-ralph/

Can you feel it just under the skin, like it is attaching itself to the outer skin?
See Dr Horn and Dr Ralph if you are worried.

I can\'t come in tomorrow as im in Paris with work until Sunday. I am free next week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday? Thanks for the link to Dr. Ralph its good to know there is a specialist who is on hand If I need him.

think wrote: I don\'t think lack of information on injection technique is your problem. If you read Dr C\'s description of his technique (EIT) in his PMMA study would that have made you do something differently? Like go to mexico?

It was the idea that this Dr in Italy could be a good alternative and the fact that I could have lots of small amounts more easilly as I am uncut. I would have loved to have gone to Mexico but in my mind it just wasn\'t viable as an option for lots of trips. I definitely regret the gun-ho attitude I had to this new Dr. He is a lovely man and the aesthetics minus the accordion are brilliant. I just worry now that I have no real idea whether or not this is PMMA and i don\'t really have anything to compare it to.

What I was saying is that the majority of the discussions on this board don\'t really mention how crucial the layers being injected into are and so that doesn\'t really come into peoples minds or at least it didn\'t into mine. Of course people are aware of using needles vs cannulas and lots of entry points compared to fewer etc etc but it is talked about on this board like you just put filler under the skin and thats it. For us uncut guys this can be the crucial thing and its kinda glossed over. This should be something that people check wether its with Dr C, Dr N, Dr A, Dr Oates, Androfill, Morgate, whoever. The fact is most people just assume the injection will be in the right place and wouldn\'t question the Dr.

mediatps wrote: The fact is most people just assume the injection will be in the right place and wouldn\'t question the Dr.

The best situation is to go to a doctor that you don\'t have to ask.

You need to have a scan to confirm whether or not you've actually had PMMA.

mediatps wrote: I just worry now that I have no real idea whether or not this is PMMA and i don\'t really have anything to compare it to.

@mediatps, you need to do something now, as other guys said. First, write to Dr.A and ask him what\'s the name of the brand of PMMA or \"PMMA\" that he has injected in your case. It\'s really weird that you don\'t even know what substance you have got and for what you paid for. Second, you need to visit some experienced doctor who can clarify the situation and answer what exactly is this and in which layer this substance was injected.

@mediatps. Please get onto the phone to book an appointment with Dr Ralph, I suggest him because he has experience in dealing with a variety of different substances injected into the penis.
Dr Horn will take a look on Monday anytime 4-6pm for you at the usual place.

Androfill wrote: @mediatps. Please get onto the phone to book an appointment with Dr Ralph, I suggest him because he has experience in dealing with a variety of different substances injected into the penis.
Dr Horn will take a look on Monday anytime 4-6pm for you at the usual place.

Ok thank you. Yes, I have made an enquiry with him via their online consultation form. I should call him though too.
Great, I\'ll see you guys on Monday.

I think going to see anyone is a waste of time. The whole right/wrong layer theory is nonsense. Whilst technically it goes skin, dartos and then bucks, the reality is we are talking about a very thin layer of tissue below the skin. I can see from your photos it\'s in the \"right\" layer. Otherwise it would be in the actual penis itself (which is clearly isn\'t) or in the dermis (which it isn\'t).

You need to know what has been injected, not where it\'s been injected. Speculating on where it\'s been injected is just laymen theory. I know all these terms make it sound complicated, but the truth is if you inject below the skin surface and not into the penis, you are in the Dartos fascia. We can clearly see that is the case from your photos and if it wasn\'t, you\'d certainly know it as the injection process would have been agony, or you\'d have lumpy shaft skin.

Going to see Dr Ralph or Dr Horn is a waste of time and I say this as a very cautious person.

The only reason to a Dr in my opinion is if you think it is a liquid and can be aspirated (which I doubt) or to discuss Circumcision. They aren\'t going to be able to tell you what it is and it\'s in the right layer.

I think you need to really push Dr A for more answers. You have to know exactly what he\'s injected. Request a sample if necessary.

I agree, it's a complete waste of time, it might actually be a bad idea because they might try and persuade you to let them cut it out, you need to find out what you've been injected with. You should start by trying to get some information out of Dr A with supermans help.
If you fail to make head way with it, you should book a consultation with a doctor for a scan, Suks Minhas maybe, I've always found Dr Ralph's clinic to be unhelpful and over priced.