TOPIC: Infections, Complications, Risks of PMMA?

My question is even if the PMMA in your Cock were to harden, would this really be an issue?

I think that would be a huge issue - who wants a rock hard Flaccid Cock? Also if it hardens what shape is it hardening into? That sounds kind of scary - I\'m getting closer to just leaving everything alone all the time. I talked to Dr. Reed last night about the complications from having my graft removed - nerve damage, scarring, shortening and \"laxity of skin\" around the shaft. I trust him as a Dr. and he says that none of these complications are inevitable; but I find that when I was younger I was much more ballsy about possible complications from PE.

It seems to me, to stop the \'complication\' of loss of Erect length post PMMA - it would be best to use a stretcher soon after the procedure

If you told me \"in 30 years your Flaccid Cock will be hard, you will have slight pain in the skin when you get an Erection, and you will have some lumps, but erectile ability and sensation remain unaffected\" I would get this done. Now if you told me I would need invasive surgery to have it removed and possibly chunks of your Dick removed that would be a different story altogether, but I guess these things are possibilities, gotta way the pros v cons.

You also need to remember that not every PMMA procedure is the same. If you have 15cc of 10% and in ten years that hardens, I really can\'t imagine it\'s going to be anywhere near as problematic as if you have 50cc of 20%. At the end of the day it it hardens and it just 2mm thick, then I doubt your erectile chambers would have much trouble expanding. But if is denser and thicker material has hardened around your penis, will it be able to expand when Erect? I don\'t have a clue, but it\'s worth thinking about. It makes sense to me that a thick capsule of hard tissue could make getting Erect difficult.

But having said that, is there much evidence of PMMA hardening that much? What might seem hard in the buttocks, when compared to surrounding fat, might in reality not be any harder than the scar capsules we see from silicone implants.

Hardening aside, Hoddle makes a good point, the more beads you inject, the more likely you are to have long term problems. And, with a greater volume, the tighter the PMMA tissue will be coupled to the dermis blood supply. This means greater risk of losing skin when excising the implant tissue (ie the skin does not get enough blood supply). So for the guy with 50cc of 20%, the surgeon can only remove a small area during each Revision to avoid this problem. All permanent Girth enhancement procedures carry the risk of permanent problems because they are implanted in the Flaccid state, however they are never as mechanically dynamic as the penis, so they inevitably are stressed in the Erect state. The exception is the elist implant which seems to be optimized for Erect state, but looks and feels odd when Flaccid, and has a whole host of other problems we have read about. Please research all of the risks before undergoing any PE surgery. And remember, the younger you are, the more you stand to lose if things don’t turn out as planned.BB

First of all bone cement is absolutely different from any pmma tissue filler injections :-

Bone cements are supplied as a two-component system, consisting of a powder and a liquid, which are mixed and delivered to the implant site during the surgical procedure. The powder portion contains approximately 90% by weight polymer (PMMA) beads, the remainder is typically composed of benzoyl peroxide (BPO, free-radical initiator) and barium sulfate (BaSO 4 ) or zirconium dioxide (ZrO 2 ), both of which are radiopacifiers. The liquid portion contains three basic components: MMA (approximately 97 % by volume) monomer, N,N-dimethyl-p-toluidine (DMPT, free-radical activator), and hydroquinone (HQ, free-radical scavenger).

So with this conc. it has been used as we know in orthopedic surgery and dentistry.

So the only way if we need a harder pmma graft ---> the beads has to be closer to each other i.e. a higher conc. .

That was the reason why they made the highest conc. for pmma as a tissue filler 30% only and not higher than this - e.g. 40-45% pmma will be used for reconstruction of bone defect (e.g. frontal bone) :-


NewPlastic®, was developed in Porto Alegra, Brazil by Dr. Almir M. Nacul. Dr. Nacul is in clinical practice and is recognized as the inventor of Bioplasty (soft tissue augmentation with fillers) and has authored a medical textbook and many articles on soft tissue augmentation with PMMA. NewPlastic is the commercial name for a series of PMMA, products with microspheres of 40 to 60 microns, in different concentrations. These products are currently available as 2%, 10% and 30% concentrations of PMMA in a vehicle of 98% 90% and 70% methylcellulose, respectively. Dr. Nacul is also developing a 40-45% concentration for specific reconstructive applications where a denser implant is desired.

www.facialwasting.org/products.htm

As we know after few weeks post-pmma injection ---> our body will produce new collagen (i.e. scar tissues surrounding each bead) and the texture of the connections between these multiple scar tissues will be very important in determining the firmness of pmma graft .

So lets think about it this way e.g. 45% pmma conc. will give you a hard pmma-graft like a bone after few weeks i.e. the small multiple scar tissues forming around each bead are connected and fixed to each other so firmly like one piece and forming almost one big hard scar capsular tissue. So that means the connections and the bindings between these multiple small scar tissues are very important and the degree of firmness of the graft will depend on the texture of these connected fibrous tissues.


In regard of the other conc.\'s (2%,10@ and 30%) as a dermal filler will they become harder after a long period ?? I.e. will the connections and the bindings between the multiple small scar tissues surrounding the beads change in their texture and become harder later on and become almost like the 40-45% ?? The answer imo is NO ; the maturity and the end-stage of scar tissue formation is usually between 6-12 months in adults.


If you ask anyone who had penile pmma he will tell you the pmma feels softer in flaccid and firmer in erect and that is what my penile pmma (30% metacrill) still feels like after almost 4 years (actually this coming Oct. will be my 4th anniversary) and it had never changed or become harder.

Anyone here from CHL ? I decided against PMMA after reading about his lymphatic disease. I hope he is doing ok.

ICE CREAM wrote: Anyone here from CHL ? I decided against PMMA after reading about his lymphatic disease. I hope he is doing ok.

His lymphatic issues were never determined to be PMMA related. A rather ignorant assertion to associate the two, I wish you had decided against it for intelligent reasons. Perhaps you meant to say \"I decided against PMMA because of long-term unknowns,\" because at least it would have sounded like you\'ve done your reading.

no actually I meant exactly what I wrote. I decided against PMMA and Dr C because this guy had a bad outcome. I am not a lawyer and don\'t need to add disclaimers to my posts.

ICE CREAM wrote: no actually I meant exactly what I wrote. I decided against PMMA and Dr C because this guy had a bad outcome. I am not a lawyer and don\'t need to add disclaimers to my posts.

Bingo. You felt that someone had a bad outcome and you chose against it. And that\'s perfectly fine. But citing something like \"lymphatic problems\" as it pertains to PMMA bioplasty is a bit misleading, that is all.

Is there anywhere in the UK that does PMMA injections?

grahamjack wrote: Is there anywhere in the UK that does PMMA injections?

When you say you\'ve been researching for a year, what have you been doing?

There are quite a few UK based members who have had PMMA. We also have members who have had experience with Mr Viel and there has been previous discussion of URGS. Take some time and read the forum. Use the search function.

Off the top of my head here are some members who are from the UK and had PMMA.

WillTravel
Trying
LondonLad
Mikehok
JAM (based is Europe but a UK guy, who has had PMMA and surgery with Mr Viel)
Zayne

I have found little info on this procedure. Infact penis enlargment in totally. I have only come across two surgeons. Jethron and Viel.

I have used to search tool but it didnt give me the answers I was looking for. I found Trying\'s post about PMMA and have mailed him. I was under the impression that Viel didn\'t do PMMA.

I wanted to know if any of the users have had surgery with URGS and what is so different about their FFT. I respect you have already said in another post that Dr Viels FFT is just as effective.

You also mentioned David Ralph, who I have never heard of until you mentioned him. Tried doing some research on him but it doesnt give me a link to his surgery. Which made me wonder if he did privare work. I have been trying to find JAM on here but cannot find him through the \'search for user\' tool.

also 7,000 for lengthing and widening from URGS seems a bit expensive.

Hey guys how you guys doing. This is just a rant which im going to delete later lololll
2040 no safe penis enhancement! talking about this up here of course not that down there... You guys should all put your time into finding answers for the flaccid increasement, as if anyone would do so when there is pmma. I hope everyone of our members is doing ok
Yea yea talking some more about pmma, but theres not that much too talk about...penis enhancment is fucking lame. The president who d want to win should just say \"i ll make pe possible\" bla.
hope you r all doing well. Later guys dont worry i delte this shti
i wonder if there will ever be a progressive news for pe ever
actually im going to let it stand here because why not.


Threads one should check out before undergoing pmma.

Big Freds Ball penis issue page 4 of the thread. And interesting smartman respond.
phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Big-Fred-5448623?trail=60

Gultzmaster Thread, hope he will come back and give updates.
phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/GM-Trip-To-Tijuana-5886339

And last but not least Hunk Chunk, who actually might have the ugly still ahead.
phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/PMM...and-The-Ugly-5972441

I think we also need to discuss psychosomatic complications. In terms of the effect they have on your life, it\'s as bad as experiencing the real thing. I\'ve experience them myself and it\'s pretty tough. The trouble is 99% of people refuse to accept the possibility their issues are psychosomatic and if anyone suggests it, it usually doesn\'t go down well. But in my experience the penis is an area of the body where we are more likely to suffer psychosomatic issue\'s then anywhere else. I know of at least 3 text book examples of guys who have been convinced of serious problems that didn\'t really exist post PE procedures.