TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

Quantum wrote:

messageman wrote: I don\'t think the thread will be up too long.The administrator of PEgym
knows what\'s up and most likely doesn\'t want his site to become a refuge
for snake oil salesmen.
I do hope it stays up though; it only makes the doctor look worse...And frankly, if a guy decides to trust this doctor after all the shady information that is available about him, well then, it was his informed decision, and he deserves what he gets.

Actually...I take that back...No man, no matter how naive, arrogant, stupid, etc, deserves to have his penis experimented on, and possibly irrepairably deformed or injured...Nobody.

Just curious..do you have PMMA?

Yes... And if you go through my posts, you\'ll see that I have have said (often) that PMMA is still in its pioneering stages and that it is still risky. The long term effects are not understood and they could be very negative. Still, I was able to make an informed decision with a procedure that was above board, with a material that is known, has considerable documentation,and has been used for years. The physician I used is well regarded and has never been accused of shilling or posting fake pictures. Hell, the doctor who did my PMMA procedure uses it himself, along with his staff at the clinic, and they\'ll readily show it to you (on their own bodies).
Was I experimented on? In a way...yes. Is it comparable to what Dr. L is up to? No (IMHO)

So Im confused, is IsoLigs the real skepticalone on pegym, or is skepticalone over there legit?

The Skeptical One over there is fake. And yes \"Isoligs\" is the real SO.
This is all completely insane. How could the doctor and his hired shills not think they would get busted?
On the other hand, why would someone go to all the trouble to frame the doctor when he is obviously not winning the forum over anyway?

I apologize to the Forum Members for not posting lately - I was preoccupied on the PEGYM forum.

However, I must conclude the same as I did with PEGym Forum....

I do not have the time to simply spend many hours defending myself against many false accusations. I came aboard to maybe answer questions for those genuine and honest people, provide information on a new penile enlargement technique that I feel was worth talking about, and learn from those here as well.

Those who\'s agenda was simply to oppose and mock...you win. Take care and I wish you all well. Moderator – please remove me from your data base,Thank you,Dr. Loria

DR LORIA wrote: I apologize to the Forum Members for not posting lately - I was preoccupied on the PEGYM forum.

However, I must conclude the same as I did with PEGym Forum....

I do not have the time to simply spend many hours defending myself against many false accusations. I came aboard to maybe answer questions for those genuine and honest people, provide information on a new penile enlargement technique that I feel was worth talking about, and learn from those here as well.

Those who\'s agenda was simply to oppose and mock...you win. Take care and I wish you all well. Moderator – please remove me from your data base,Thank you,Dr. Loria

You have not answered a single tough question, nor have you provided any sufficient before & after photos. It\'s bizarre to have a physician join our forum only to discredit himself with excuses, dodgy posting, and association with shills.

Good day sir. Account banned.

SO, What do you mean he did not answer any questions? he did!!! he said he has obsereved up to 1.5\" of length increase with his patients, and he has a special mix that will make your Dick larger in every way possible, Girth, length and even glans...he has done HUNDREDS of procedures in the span of one year and he was able to surpass ALL the PE DR\'s, who have tried through out their careers to increase length and glans with no success, but loria did it with great success and fantastic Fake pictures to boot!!!!

What is wrong with this site? people ask REAL questions and the good dr answers them all and they are still not happy...

We surely will miss dr loria, and it is a loss to the PE community

PLUS, he was preoccupied with the PEGYM forum and the many patients he is doing every day, so he had no time to answer the real questions but he had time to answer the pricing questions...That shows where a real dr focus is!

BTW, his front desk does not even know which airport is the closest to his office!!!!! They are too busy collecting money.

kcchief wrote: Q
You on a proxy server as well?
Kc
Just asking!

What\'s a proxy server?

Quantum wrote:

kcchief wrote: Q
You on a proxy server as well?
Kc
Just asking!

What\'s a proxy server?

It\'s like a middle man. It\'s a way of hiding your location. Information doesn\'t get sent straight from one computer to another, but via server with a different IP address.

Banned members often use them to start posting under new names. However, rather than use a proxy, sometimes they just move location and change user name. But the mods usually recognize them straight away from their posting style. But sometimes we just turn a blind eye, as we are a forgiving bunch.

I am to convinced he has hired any shills. He never offered me anything nor was anything ever said about referals. So many of you thought or think I am one. I am not! I think skeptical one can now confirm that. Anyway it really doesn\'t matter. I will keep reporting and I hope all goes well. I do wish I would have done more research, I had never even herd of ppma. I was bored lonely and desperate. My wife and kids left me home alone for a week. I always react on impulse, it usually works out well for me. So I only hope this will be one of those things.


Has anyone done ppma? Does anyone have pictures of results with that? I would like to compare.

Skeptic one you have my permission to post my pictures. Thank you for waiting

Thats funny, the caller ID from the first call from my inquiry with Loria stated Patient Referral with a totally different area code then his offie.

hoddle10 wrote:

Quantum wrote:

kcchief wrote: Q
You on a proxy server as well?
Kc
Just asking!

What\'s a proxy server?

It\'s like a middle man. It\'s a way of hiding your location. Information doesn\'t get sent straight from one computer to another, but via server with a different IP address.

Banned members often use them to start posting under new names. However, rather than use a proxy, sometimes they just move location and change user name. But the mods usually recognize them straight away from their posting style. But sometimes we just turn a blind eye, as we are a forgiving bunch.

Thanks for the information. If that person whom I quoted was asking if I am using a proxy server...well, I have not a clue about any of that. All I know is I use AT&T internet service, that\'s it. I\'m about as computer illiterate as a rock in my driveway.

Hi Irishfan, I wish you the best bro and I hope you get the result you wanted without any complications.

As we know the gain from Silikon1000 is not mainly from the volume of the injected product its mostly from the new collagen formed (due to our body\'s inflammatory response) around thousands micro-droplets distributed in the injected field with a distance between each microdrop about 3-5 mm. So a doctor has to wait till the new collagen forms around and encapsulate each micro-drop of Silikon1000 before injecting the 2nd rd (it is exactly the same for pmma beads) and fix them in the injected spot and not allowing them to migrate to other areas or cluster together to form a bigger volume of Silikon1000 -->no collagen formation ---> not fixed in the injected spot ---> a danger of migration.

If you ask any doctor who has a good experience in the safe micro-droplets technique; he will tell you a doctor must wait for at least a month between each round otherwise there will be no micro-droplets technique of Silikon1000 ---> there will be a danger of forming big drops of Silikon1000 ---> i.e. your body cannot form collagen around these big drops ---> a high risk of migration (in a long term) of Silikon1000 towards (according to gravity) the glans or scrotum.

Check this site :-

www.pfrankmd.com/siliconemicrodropletinj.html :-


\"The microdroplet technique entails the injection of numerous small drops (about 1/2 a drop of water) of sterile silicone oil into several points within a desired site. When injected, the liquid silicone remains chemically unaltered and is subsequently surrounded by a collagen capsule produced by the patient’s skin. Treatments are conducted at monthly intervals to allow for collagen rebuilding and a resulting natural appearance. This technique overwhelmingly minimizes the occurrence of overcorrection and potential drift (movement or shifting) of the silicone that has been seen with other techniques that involve large volume injections\".

There are two doctors in NYC a father and his daughter :- Dr. Jay Barnett (with 40 yrs experience) and Dr.Channing Barnett these two doctors have great experience with this technique \"the micro-droplets\" with great results, they will tell you for a safe and successful result one important thing a doctor has to wait for at least a month between each round otherwise there will be a high risk of complications from Silikon injection.

www.barnettdermatology.com/treatments.php?id=16

I am sorry Irishfan if I brought this topic again, it is nothing against you or even Dr.Loria, I do care for any member here including you, but you have the right to know what is injected in your body, In regard of Silikon1000; it doesn\'t make any difference to me if he used the safe micro-droplets technique of Silikon1000 as any other experienced doctors use or instead he used his new mixture (Silikon1000 + other products ---> which as he claims can form micro drops of Silikon1000) imo he made a big mistake ( i.e. if he really used Silikon1000) (Its not only me saying that but also the most experienced doctors will tell you the same) by injecting Silikon again within one week.


I wish if you can get the answer from him for this Q. . He might have a good explanation for that which unfortunately other experienced doctors have not (e.g. Dr.Jay Barnett 40 yrs experience with silicone injection).

Well I just hope it all turns out well. Am sure I saw something that said silicon 1000 and I remember him saying something about acid. On the second rounAshe said it was around 42cc. He said it was less than that the time before. I do think some has went into my fat pad! But I am not sure. It is much fuller now. Not sure if that is from swelling or what. He told me the same as you, that it wold convert to collagen.

Irishfan did you say it was ok post your
Pics in the pegym? Did you mean it was ok
For SO to post them here? Pegym seems like
A nice forum and I was glad the visit it. We seen alot
of the same there. I still think loria procudre will work
But the shilling and not answering question proves to me he was
Just looking to use the two forums to get free advertisment.
To Q I was asking if you were on a proxy server cause You seem
to imply the mods were biased and PMMA or bust kind
Of guys which is not true many have had other non successful procudures and found PMMA to work, some have not used PMMA.
Kcchief