TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

I totally agree with you Hoddle about the results of these studies, actually I would hate to have a squishy Erect penis for 18 months also the filler can move around even towards the scrotum, but at least a doctor has to be honest with his patients and inform them the pros and the cons about his procedure before doing it (as an informed consent).

Dr. P is samy passy in Brazil

I do respect Dr.Samy Passy (as you know he was my treating Dr.) but still I will advise you to wait (at least you should wait for more than 6 wks from the 2nd rd.).

When I talked to Loria bout 3 weeks ago he did mention he used Artefil in conjunction with the Silikone 1000. I might go for PMMA. I am doing some soul searching. I spoke to Wade, and Christian from Dr. C\'s office. I also showed my pics to Hoddle and Smartman to get an unbiased opinion because they arent females with an agenda. I have it hammered in my head from previoius abusive ex\'s that i have a micro penis. Hoddle thinks im nuts

When I say I am doing it to save my marriage I guess I am exadurating. We have a great marriage I love her more than anything. The only probLem we have is that our sex life sucks.. I need sex every three days and she doesn\'t need it at all. It\'s not very satisfying for her anymore.
She loves it when I pump and get to 5.5 but it kind of kills the mood when I have to say give am a half hour. Not to mention humiliating. My hope is that she will want to have sex more if it feels good. She is perfect in every other way. Sex is just a big thing to me and I really want to make it better.

Very strange a DO doing exotic phallopatsy. Plastic surgery is not the usual path of a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine.

!!irish fan!!

Doesn\'t steroids shrink your junk??? I read it some where years back. I was considering roids back then. But thought I don\'t have any size to waste..

I could be wrong though.. Might be just the Balls..

AAS use will cause suppression of endogenous testosterone production and the testis will shrink in size as the body senses the presence of androgens. They do not effect the size of your penis.

\"AAS use will cause suppression of endogenous testosterone production and the testis will shrink in size as the body senses the presence of androgens. They do not effect the size of your penis.\"

ah ah @miracle... i BEG to differ.... aas and the penis shrinking \"theory has long been debated. your are 100% correct about the testicular Atrophy that comes with the use of aas. However certain steroids decreases the body\'s ability to produce collagen vastly and some actually increase collagen production. for ex. aas like anavar, eq, deca, primo, can significantly increase collagen synthesis in the body of up to 400% while steriods like testosterone increase protein synthesis but DECREASES natural collagen synthesis up to 80%. now as we all know collagen synthesis is great for soft tissue growth hence leading to a bigger penis..

the bottom line- the use of certain steroids can effect the size of the penis. good and bad. SPECIFICALLY IF USED DURING THE PUBERTY STAGES IN OUR LIVES. now as most, if not all, the members on this board is probably past our puberty stage you may be asking how does this effect us?

answer- it doesn\'t unless your body is damaged and forced to produce collagen in a particular damaged area like in this case the penis during PMMA injection. in theory the use of certain steriods during and post PMMA treatment should enhance the body\'s ability to produce collagen therefore leading to more natural collagen formation around the PMMA during the healing process.

i have yet to take the PMMA plunge. the longer i wait the more reluctant i am due to arising PMMA complications. see my other post regarding PMMA long term side effects. I am seriously considering scratching the PMMA and going completely with a temporary filler while on and off an aggressive collagen boosting steroid cycle to maximize the permanent results. its more expensive, but in theory a lot safer. think immediate, SAFE, short term, temporary, satisfaction while slowly building a natural Girth.... ya follow me?

Sorry in advance to bring this thread back to life but I came across Dr Loria\'s site yesterday and listened to the 1.5hr recording of his group consultation. With a dozen people on that call and dozens of questions, only one time did someone ask what filler he was using. Even then he mentions something like \"we use Artefill and...Silikon 1000..\" and I cannot remember word for word but no one asked about safety or any additional questions about the fillers. MAN, it\'s just crazy! No one cared what he was putting into their dicks, just \"oh, so how long does it take\", \"can I still have rough sex?, etc and half the guys were ready to sign up on the spot. It just goes to show how little research it takes to convince someone when all they have been thinking about for years is how small they are.

FYI, he\'s running \"package\" specials where you can buy up to 4 injections in advance and he guarantees 1.5\" EG gains with 2 session. It\'s like $8-12,000!! and I bet he is doing a couple a week if not more.

Maybe he read this thread and used smartman and others advice and came up with a better \"cocktail\" but without knowing and seeing exactly what he is mixing in front of my face, I still would never consider it. Even then, I would wait a few years.

DISCLAIMER: NO ONE GO GET THIS DONE! I DON\'T WANT BAD PENIS KARMA. Just thought i\'d share the craziness.