TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

Yes they can be posted on both. The gym has been good to me a lot of good info. I really just don\'t want to do PE for the next four years never knowing if I am going to get above 4.5 g. I really want to get to 5.5 or 6 if possible.

When I meet with Dr. I told him about the gym. I really do not think he had ever heard of it. He did ask if I herd about this board. He said someone had posted about him and it was hostle. I told him it would be the same on all forums. I know I have said it before, but by the look on his face when I told him about all the other forums tell me he is not the shill you all think he is. Non the less it doesn\'t matter now.

What kind of gains can be seen with ppma?

welcome to Irishfan- the newest Dr Loria imposter and/or Shill.

Hey now, I thought I was the only one who thought Irishfan was a shill. But in case he is not, good luck in your recovery!

Sincerely,

LongDongSilver

Knucklehead and Forum Terrorist

Not for nothing, but Dr. Loria mentioned that he thinks I needed (3) sessions to achieve my goals.

When asked about the turnaround time of the time between the injections he said he could do all all three within a month. Reading that article and what he said disturbs me. And he told me on the phone he definitely uses Silikon1000.

He also told me three visits. Not sure that will do it for me. I just measured at 80% Erect I was 5. Not sure if that will go down, I hope not. I was really wanting 6.

For anyone that thinks I am a shill, well your just ignorant. You are the reasons we can\'tshave a good thread on something like this.

I\'ve always said I don\'t think you are a shill. But to be fair to those who think you are, you have to admit some of the things you\'ve said are very odd as are the decisions you\'ve made. Given the way Dr Loria has behaved and history this industry has with shills, I don\'t think you should be surprised that many would suspect you.

I\'d be truly shocked if you did turn out to be a shill and think the odds are largely in you favour as concerns complications. But don\'t take anymore gambles. It would be great to over 6\", but it\'s not going to change your life. However, if you did have more injected and this were to lead to complications, then your life would be dramatically changed and for the worse. Lots of Drs have reported positive results with Silikon1000, but in very tiny quantities. I looked into it for a dent on my nose and was told I\'d need less than 0.3cc and this would be done in 2 or 3 sessions, 6 weeks apart. No Dr\'s use this stuff in the sort of quantities needed to give you a 1\"+ gain in Girth and none mix it either.

Some loria patients have reported that they were injected with over 40 CC in their 2nd session and even much more in the first session!

H10, is this possible? seems like an awful lot of CC\'s in one session..OR as I had said before, may be he is using a ton of absorb-able fluids and he is slowly increasing the S1000 ratio to find out the right mixture (which I think he may be doing)? of course he is still in the very early experimentation stage, \"IF\" all this is true!

Seeing as he\'s a hair transplant specialist, perhaps his special ingredient is propecia!

As an extra bonus with no cost to you: A hairy Dick!

Mustang2020 wrote: Some loria patients have reported that they were injected with over 40 CC in their 2nd session and even much more in the first session!

H10, is this possible? seems like an awful lot of CC\'s in one session..OR as I had said before, may be he is using a ton of absorb-able fluids and he is slowly increasing the S1000 ratio to find out the right mixture (which I think he may be doing)? of course he is still in the very early experimentation stage, \"IF\" all this is true!

It\'s probably mainly Hyaluronic Acid. What percentage of that is actual Silikon100 is hard to know, but probably only 10%. But even so, it\'s still a hell of a lot.

What I don\'t understand is that if he\'s mixing it with Hyaluronic Acid (I suspect non branded), then it would take months to absorb. So how can he be injecting more after just one week. Using a traditional micro droplet technique, other Dr\'s say 1 month to six weeks between injections. But surely if he\'s mixing it with Hyaluronic Acid, it would mean waiting between 3 to 6 months between procedures. What he\'s saying just doesn\'t make sense to me.

Also I don\'t understand how he knows the Hyaluronic Acid is keeping the micro droplets sufficiently spaced apart. The whole point of the micro droplet technique is so that each drop of silicone is spaced out and divided by collagen. But how do we know they don\'t clump together when mixed?

Smartman knows far more about these things than me, so maybe he can chime in.

Well, he is saying he can inject 40+ CC in each session at one week apart. So may be he is using a carrier that absorbs quickly....or may be he does not know what the F***k he is doing! He surely is either lying to us all including his patients or, and I said it many times so sorry for repeating it, he is just using his patients as lab rats to find out what works and what does not...

So far, it seems like he is another elist and such, he is giving Dr\'s a lousy name and he is disgracing his profession!

Mustang2020 wrote: Well, he is saying he can inject 40+ CC in each session at one week apart. So may be he is using a carrier that absorbs quickly....or may be he does not know what the F***k he is doing! He surely is either lying to us all including his patients or, and I said it many times so sorry for repeating it, he is just using his patients as lab rats to find out what works and what does not...

So far, it seems like he is another elist and such, he is giving Dr\'s a lousy name and he is disgracing his profession!

But he said at PEgym that he was using Hyaluronic Acid. As far as I know these take months to absorb or at least those approved by the FDA do.

@Mustang, I called Elist\'s office today because I was bored and I had a hilarious conversation with a guy with an accent. They are such BS artists. Apparently they came out with a new softer silicon implant that wasnt sharp around the edges. I told him my friend got it and he grimaced everytime he got a boner, the guy said well that never happens here. I said yeah, by the way do you have a big black ananthesiologist, he said yeah, I said yeah it was you guys. They have three sizes. L XL XXL. XXL is 10 inches long. WTF.

The guy with the accent is the guy with the oily hair (read my thread if u have time) he is a total \"want to be dr\" but he has very small brain and a small penis too....I know, he told me himself...So I told him he should get the implant, and he looked like I was crazy to say that!....This was the day I took my implant out in their office....

BTW, the XXL 10\" long one is for people who want the implant stuffed in their groin area....it happened to an English guy, remember?

so now we have two honorable dr\'s to add to the list of \"PE Dr\'s to avoid\"

WOW.....the PE world....for me it feels like the Italian mafia

\'\' i hope your first procedure is an PMMA procedure\"
Luka Brazzis voice

Hi Irishfan,

You had in your 1st rd on the 26th of July (>42 cc\'s), after around 6 days you lost most of the gain and at this time you had your 2nd rd around the 1st of August (42 cc\'s) and your EG before the injection was 4.5\" :-

In summary you had almost > 85 cc\'s of Loria\'s mixture in your penis and you gained only 0.5\" in EG ( your EG now is around 5\") after 9 days ???

My conclusion for this:-

A- Dr.Loria uses very little of any temporary fillers (e.g. Hyaluronic acid or Restylane) in his mixture to prove that for everyone :-

If a doctor used e.g. 18-22 cc\'s of Restylane for a penile injection ---> the gain in girth will be 1.5\"-1.6\" at 1 month and 18 months. this is a study published in the Pub-Med by our korean doctors :-

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20233296

So that confirm to me that you had (if it was true that the mixture contains a temporary filler imo it does contain but very litte) less than 4-5 cc\'s of a temporary filler in your penis (I might be wrong but from this korean study it proves that I am right about this), so this korean doctors injected a temporary filler only one session and the gain was excellent for 18 months but unfortunately with a soft erect penis (N.B. with a satisfactory aesthetic results ??? it could be due to homogenizing the injected filler with a roller).

B- Also imo he injected only a very small amount of permanent filler e.g. Silikon1000 , the reason for that I am sure Dr.Loria knows about :-

1- the danger of injecting a large amount of this product ---> catastrophic results.( also as far as I remember a doctor should NEVER inject S1000 in a specific area in the body (for a tissue augmentation) 5 cc\'s or more.

2- He injected the mixture in two rd.\'s within a week; so thats tell me definitely he knew about the collagen formation around the micro-droplets of S1000 and the doctor should give a time for the body to form collagen so a doctor has to wait for 4-6 wks but he didn\'t so (i.e. either he didn\'t use a permanent filler or he used it but less than 5 cc\'s and no more than that .

I am sure he uses Vit. C. in his mixture because if vit.c. is mixed with our body protein can form collagen which will stay in our body for 3-5 months and after that 6-10% of this new collagen can be permanent or at least it will stay for a long time in our bodies.

IMO :- His mixture will contain (if the mixture contains S1000 and Hyulronic A.) approximately 4-5.5% of S1000 and with <5% of e.g. Hyluronic acid and NOT more than that, The other ingredients will be Vit. C. etc. with the main bulk carrier (a quick absorbable fluids).

So I am learning more and more about his mixture he is trying to avoid the tedious process of injecting S1000 with thousands of needle injections ---> micro-droplets technique ; he decided to use a small volume of permanent (to avoid any complications) and temporary fillers mixed with a big volume of a quick absorbable fluid carrier (contains alkaline base elements , calcium elements to form multiple small particles of S1000???, vit.c. and N-saline).