TOPIC: Met Dr. Loria yesterday

@Longdongsilver

I appreciate your passion, and like you, I have major reservations and distrust regarding the Dr. L procedure. However, I ask you to please maintain civil discourse with all forum members, lest they be deemed as shills by the Moderation crew - and in this instance - Irishfan has not been deemed as such.

He has provided me photo evidence of his work and when the photo upload system is working again (very near future), I will have them posted. I will note, however, that proving someone is a patient of a doctor who has previously employed shills does not exonerate him of suspicion. So being critical I can understand, but let\'s not cheapen the discussion with unfounded accusations (i.e. racism).

If you (LongDongSilver) wish to respond to this specific post, please do so via Private Message, I prefer this thread stay on course, thanks!

Np Skeptic. This is my last post here. I called him a racist because he made a post on PEGYM that had strong racist undertones, and I could not respond there due to database errors. I am happy to see double standards employed as he is allowed to call others morons with no recourse, even though he considers putting steroids in his penis a good idea, lmao.

Congratulations Irish on your gains. I hope you dont get penile cancer.

I absolutly did not make a racist coment. The fact that you took it as one tells me I was correct.

My two best friends are black. And I was stupid enough to vote for a black man four years ago. That was one mistake I won\'t make again.

I hope nothing bad happens to you. You liberals have no tolerance for anyone that does not share your views. But you want everyone else to be tolerant to our views. Have a nice life

you take deca Dbol and winstrol at the same time?

P.S: I voted for Stephen Harper.

No, I do not take them all at the same time. Right now taking HGH, HCG, Tren, Dbol and test. I only took the Dbolfort the first two weeks to jump start.

Today is nine days after the second injection for the most part I feel normal. The swelling is gone. Had sex last night that was a bit uncomfortable. A little pain but not bad enough to stop. When I measured I was just under 5 the gains are diminishing I hope that stops.

Everything is back to normal. The sores are healed all swelling is done. I have not been Erect or a few days now because I am three weeks into a cycle of Tren and test ( steroids) for those of you who do not know. Tren kills libido. I will be on this for three more weeks. The last time I measured I was just under 5in Girth

Today Dr.L stated he was surprised that I had lost as much a I did. He implied he would be willing to do another round at no charge. I am going to hold of for now. I was really expecting more from this. I spoke with two other Dr.s from the forum and they do not think I will have any problems with what has been done at all. So that makes me feel good.
I am not giving up hope yet.

Irishfan wrote: I spoke with two other Dr.s from the forum and they do not think I will have any problems with what has been done at all.

Thanks for the update. May I ask, which doctors and which forums are you talking about?

This fourm. Dr.P through e-mail and Dr.c through Wade. I sent pictures to both.

As of this morning all gains are gone. I am back to 4.5 Girth . So for everyone that accused me of being a shill, you can apologize now. I am just a desperate guy trying to save his sex life and marriage. I had never heard of PMMA or I would have done that. I wish I would have found this site before I had done anything, but what\'s done is done.

It wouldn\'t be fair for me to say this does not work, but it didn\'t work for me. Dr. L is a very nice guy and I have no reason to believe the people I spoke to and the pictures I saw were fake.

Irishfan wrote: As of this morning all gains are gone. I am back to 4.5 Girth . So for everyone that accused me of being a shill, you can apologize now. I am just a desperate guy trying to save his sex life and marriage. I had never heard of PMMA or I would have done that. I wish I would have found this site before I had done anything, but what\'s done is done.

To be honest I\'m sure there post enlargement divorce or break up rate seems to be way above average. Maybe it\'s just me who has noticed it, but a freaky amount of our members seem to mention splitting with GF\'s, having marital problems or even getting divorced post PE procedure. For example, my good friend and PhalloBoards vet Mikehok has had 2 procedures and after each split from his longish term GF\'s. It doesn\'t seem to me that these procedures are quite the relationship savers many men think they will be.

It is my guess that men who were once embaresed are now proud and want to screw everything they can. I have had close to 100 partners so that is out of my system. And I am very much in love with my wife of 16 years. I have no desire to please anyone but her. We have never talked about it and I don\'t want to. But I am guessing that one of her boyfriends were huge

Btw the way I see it, the problem regarding you gains, is that the micro droplet technique allows the Dr to be precise and evenly space out the drops. However the penis is too big and too many injections would be needed. So Loria mixes it with some kind of carrier, probably water based, However, this carrier is likely to be weak, unlike the bovine used in Artefil. So he wouldn\'t have wanted to use to high concentration, as he didn\'t want the silicone to clump up, as we know the risks of silicone when not injected in micro droplets. Basically it sounds like the micro droplets were too far apart from each other. This is why Dr Lemperle doesn\'t recommend 5% PMMA for PE.

It will be tempting to have more injected and I\'m sure given your exposure on here, Loria will offer to do it for free. However, as I\'ve stated all along he\'s experimenting and doesn\'t know what the outcomes will be. Your result is further proof of that. My advice would be to do nothing, at least for a few months. Think, talk to others members and think some more before doing anything else.

Btw, I could well be completely wrong with my analysis of why you haven\'t gained. Smartman will probably be along soon and offer a different and better reason. It could be that the carrier had absorbed and the collagen growth is yet to kick in, so you might still see results. But this raises the question of why on earth Dr Loria gave you a second injection so soon after the first.