TOPIC: Infections, Complications, Risks of PMMA?

Gentlemen,

The risk is REAL. Nobody with a clear conscience can deny that. I cannot over emphasize the seriousness of undergoing any form of Phalloplasty including PMMA. New members join daily and witness the results some have obtained with PMMA and immediately book an appointment. They do not even stop to think about short or long term complications that may arise. They do not read. Every day I get asked the same questions MANY, MANY, MANY times that have already been answered on PhalloBoards (usually more than once). It\'s actually quite frustrating. Use your brain and the power to read people!

This isn\'t a video game and you cannot \"start over/reset\" your decision. If you haven\'t read every piece of literature and all of the information at our old site as well as this one, you are absolutely insane to go through with the procedure. If you have a normal sized penis, I always recommend leaving it alone!

I DO NOT feel that PMMA is a ticking time bomb. I DO believe that some people will experience foreign body rejection. As Fran and (if you\'ve been reading) countless others have pointed out in numerous posts, FBG is rare but DOES occur and can at times be difficult to treat or even lead to more devastating complications. You are playing russian roulette with your penis. Having lived without a fully functional penis for over 15 years, I was/am prepared to live with my decision if things take a turn for the worse. There simply are ZERO methods available at present to enlarge the penis that have been proven safe and efficacious long term.

When I see single men with a normal or large penis undergo PMMA, it makes me wonder about their intelligence or whether they have severe psychological issues. I am a guinea pig. I have experienced no complications but am only 3 months post op. As a moderator and friend to all, I will remain on this board/forum for years and update any changes both positive or negative. I am indebted to those like CHL, EP, Fran and others that have come forward courageously and shared openly what others were only willing to discuss with me via PM. It is their servitude and experience that help to educate patients and prepare them when things take a turn for the worse. I applaud all who come forward and share, despite the ridicule and embarrassment they may face/feel. It is the mark of a good man.

I tip my hat to all the courageous victims of PMMA gone wrong,

Miracle7

It would be enlightening to here from our friend Dr. Lemperle on this case. I rememember in a prior post he commented that something to the effect that a \"document case of granuloma in penis\" remains. Surely this qualifies. I would like to understand perhaps other risk factors associated with this type of outcome. Scary.

miracle7 wrote: ... shared openly what others were only willing to discuss with me via PM...

7x7 this is the second time you have mentioned other (potentially serious) complications that you know of.If you know of other serious complications you need to provide that info to the members. Just like in studies you don\'t have to provide any indidvidual info. Just the type and number instances of the complication similar to this table on page 7

atsh.co.ir/Catalogs/articles/Aphrodite%2...%20years%20study.pdf

I hope to see a similar table for each type of procedure (Alloderm, FFT, Elist, PMMA, ...) in a sticky thread so members can always find it.

Thanks for your great work moderating this site.

bighat wrote: It would be enlightening to here from our friend Dr. Lemperle on this case. I rememember in a prior post he commented that something to the effect that a \"document case of granuloma in penis\" remains. Surely this qualifies. I would like to understand perhaps other risk factors associated with this type of outcome. Scary.

He\'d be happy to contact the Dr who removed it and discuss the case with him. But that wont happen. I don\'t consider Fran Berlins story at all credible to be honest and would urge everyone to take his information with a large pinch of salt.

I\'ve posted two blogs full of stories of complications with PMMA in the penis. They are in Portuguese but the google translator works pretty well. There are also some photos. Anyone wanting to know more about these complications should try and contact the guys who run the blogs.

@hoodle10
I will not let you say this. I have no personal interest telling my story here.I am not going to repeat all the past messages now, but I am just reporting facts, that i would have been pleased to see on such forums a few years ago, before I did the PMMA operation.
My only purpose is to inform that I had complications, which means complications are possible, which I did not know at all 4 years ago. Unfortunately, I thought it was 100% safe...
It costs me a lot to explain what I went through, but some members here supported me and kindly encouraged me to go further in explaining, when I did not wish to because I could not find the courage to do it. I had to face many reactions, many questions... But what helped me was the kind messages of people who really understand and get the purpose of my participation.
It is really good to see clever people who have been nice to me, and who really understand things well.
I would ask you not to bring the discussion down, because without justification suddenly saying that what I am telling is not credible, is your personal issue, and again, I am just reporting facts. If you think you are clever enough to judge my story and medical staff, when I keep repeating to trust our medicine system, shows you have a discrepancy with reality.

To everyone:please find the pic I have just taken a minute ago, showing my penis is still inflammated and recuperating from the last extractig surgery I had on January 16th.You can see clearly the scarr, and the cutting.
I really did not want at all to show pictures, because this costs me a lot and I want to protect my privacy.
But what is important to me now, more than protecting my privacy, is to inform.
You need some pictures of the scarr of the other operations? Or you want us to meet or see it directly on cam? Or will it be enough?
Thanks

Thankyou, I apologise for doubting you.

hoddle10 wrote: He\'d be happy to contact the Dr who removed it and discuss the case with him. But that wont happen. I don\'t consider Fran Berlins story at all credible to be honest and would urge everyone to take his information with a large pinch of salt.

Wow, this is really f**ked up

Fran, That sucks amigo, and thanks for posting your experience. In that picture there appear to be three areas where the material (and part of you) has been removed. Is this the only area where you had issues, and what does it look like now?

Fran- Best wishes for a speedy recovery. would you mind sharing your age? Did you have any other procedures other than PMMA? How soon after did complications emerge.. did it happen gradually or suddenly some years later? Do you have any other physical ailments that may be related to complications (Diabetes, skin conditions, etc.)? Yours is the first report of long term serious complications that I have read about it. It is clearly deeply concerning. I\'m sure the question most/all of us have (those of us that had procedure) is whether this is an anomoly or if others have had similiar results without reporting. I personally appreciate your candidness and courage in sharing.

Fran,

I cannot thank you enough for your contribution to this forum and your bravery. I am so sorry that you\'ve been through such a horrifying ordeal. I battled peyronie\'s disease for 15 years with severe curvature and narrowing of my Erect penis. Although I was extremely embarrassed, I chose to share my experience with others in the hopes that it would be of benefit. I have an entire thread dedicated to the subject and have counseled many men via email, PM and even passing out my personal cell phone number. I detect that you genuinely care about your fellow man and I respect that. The more you are willing to share, the better off all of us will be. I am happy knowing that you have recovered and have joined this forum so that others may learn more about foreign body granulomas, how they occur, signs/symptoms and possible treatment modalities. Like my greatest hero, sometimes we must fall so that we can hold others up. Again, I thank you.

Posted by eqstudent
7x7 this is the second time you have mentioned other (potentially serious) complications that you know of.If you know of other serious complications you need to provide that info to the members. Just like in studies you don\'t have to provide any individual info. Just the type and number instances of the complication similar to this table on page 7

I covered this already in another post. I will recap...
Several patients contacted me concerning redness and a \"soreness\" in certain areas. Some resolved spontaneously and others have not (as far as I know).
One patient experienced a ridge that did not soften as much as he anticipated and it has caused him pain during intercourse/masturbation.One patient told me that their Erection quality was not as good and they felt that the weight of PMMA inhibited their Erection. They went on to explained to me that they also felt that the increase in pressure on the corpora cavernosum due to the PMMA and skin\'s limited ability to stretch further did not allow for full engorgement of the cavernous bodies, thus limiting tumescence.Many patients have less than optimal aesthetic results and is the underlying reason behind not posting photos. Not to say they were horrible, just that the patient was not happy. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Some have complained of nodules. This seems to be a fairly common complaint. Regarding the patients that have kept me apprised of new developments, most have resolved without further complication or treatment; others were treated with Kenalog with success.Being in touch with some of the world\'s leading urologists and surgeons, I have also been notified that some patients experience Necrosis (tissue death) and/or develop impotence. It was not specified what caused these complications; only that they do occur and that PMMA bioplasty was ill advised.eqstudent,

I hope that this answers your question. I cannot and will not divulge personal information. I respect others privacy and am thankful that you do too. There are unknowns in the area of PMMA penile bioplasty. We are all here with a common goal; a larger penis. While most are quick to celebrate success, others are hesitant or resistant to share when things go awry. Transparency is necessary. Lives are at stake. I do not wish to come across as a naysayer or \"poo-poo\" the whole concept/process of PMMA. I still believe it to be the safest and best option to add permanent Girth. If one has ANY reservations, I suggest you not go through with it.

Regards,
M7

Posted by eqstudent:
Thanks for your great work moderating this site.

Thank you. I care about everyone and will always strive to help others. I am indebted to Fran, EP, CHL and others that have shared their knowledge and experience with the forum. I also applaud Skeptical One who has made this all possible.

***Note***A man\'s penis is his masculinity (in his mind). Many men will equate their value as a man by the size/shape/potency of their penis. When penile augmentation goes badly, emotions run high and can destroy relationships. I am here to build them. I am here so that men need not be afraid, feel ashamed or abandoned. I want the truth and will settle for nothing less. If you have further concerns, please contact me via PM.

HI M7, check ur PM..

@Fran
Thanks for sharing a photo of your situation. Photo evidence of things \"gone wrong\" with penile bioplasty is extremely rare, and your photo submission is of major significance! Thank you again for your contribution to the collective knowledge of this method.
@Forum
FBG\'s are a known risk, have been a known risk. Although studies (most specifically Artefill related) suggest the occurrence is low, the fact is that they can and do occur. Fran may have fallen within that \"percentage\" of patients who respond adversely to the product. This is why (as M7 and others have repeated), the need to examine the pros & cons, benefits & risks, associated with this type of procedure before making any decisions.
I personally advocate for the 4x4 rule (or maybe 4.25x4.25, but you get the idea). If a gentleman is less than 4\" (+/- fraction of an Inch) in Erect Girth and/or length, AND it has a significantly negative impact on their (sex) lives, then they may be a more qualified candidate for Phalloplasty consideration. I\'m not criticizing those larger in size for having pursued Phalloplasty, but until it\'s a refined & accepted practice, you are essentially taking a needless gamble. just my 2cents

@Mustang2020
Please resubmit the PM. Apparently I need to perform maintenance as I reached the PM# limit and did not receive your message. I deleted some so please try again.

Regards,
M7

I decided to check up on this thread and I\"m all up to date. Wow is all I have to say. Thanks Fran for everything you shared. If I saw this before I had my procedure I would have skipped. I\'m only about 3 months out post op so it\'s going to be a bunch of worrying for a bit!
Your experience is making me reconsider round 2... a lot.