TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

jjk wrote: Pacific Ocean The penis skin is rolled down like a condom is...go read the GQ article and you will see the author witnessed the surgery and explained it. For everyone else talking about the current loss of Erect length, that is explained because the dissolvable Sutures are holding the penis back from becoming fully Erect. I don\'t expect to have my pre surgery length for another 4 to 6b months. Anyone who has ever had the surgery would know what I am talking about. I think some of you may have had it removed prematurely because you expected an immediate result.

The fact that Pacific doesn\'t even know how the procedure is performed raises questions as to why would anyone want to take advice from him about a surgery they don\'t even understand...and in Pacific\'s case specifically didn\'t even have the surgery...yet seems to know it all. Another thing is why is is that people like Mustang and Centurion are the same people posting here for years on end. If Dr Elist were disfiguring so many people the internet would be filled with thousands of people like them yet I only see the same people here. The internet is a cesspool of negativity and a safe place to vent frustrations...real or imagined. The fact that so few people are posting negative comments relative to the number of people who had the surgery speaks volumes. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...I rest my case!

I use to be on another site, in fact most of us were, & there were quite a bit of people complaining about their implants, along with showing pictures of their new implant, as I have as well, that was back in 2009.

Have you posted pictures of your implant? I wouldn\'t know because I haven\'t been around for over a year.

If you really did receive the implant, come back & talk to us in a year or 2......let\'s see how happy you really are.

Also, the negativity & stories you\'re looking for can be wiped out by paying google to keep negative stories off the net, at least that\'s what I\'ve been told.

Also, the mental anguish of going through a procedure that destroys your manhood, along with your social life, etc....is enough to drive any man crazy.

Do you think a man would want to get in front of a camera & testify about his situation to the world after going thru severe mental anguish? Let alone you would be embarrassed & ridiculed by others? You don\'t want it out in thethe immediate public eye.that\'s why we\'re in this forum.

Lots of people talk about it at Thunders Place as well.

I really think Elist paid to get the negative attention wiped away. Men aren\'t speaking up about what happened to them, & they need to......maybe if like 50 of us marched outside his Beverly Hills office, the house of cards will come tabling down.

But the thing is, men won\'t do that, they don\'t want to be embarrassed, ridiculed, & Elist knows this & he\'s still out there doing these operations, putting articles in GQ. Just a matter of time before the house of cards come tumbling downdown, he can\'t keep up with this charade.

The internet is anonymous. Anyone can post without showing their face. Given thousands of surgeries Elist has performed the negative posts come from maybe 10 guys. I wish people who had positive results would post too but they probably don\'t want to be bothered since they got what they wanted and certainly don\'t want to be harassed by people calling them a shill for saying they actually like it

Jjk
Have you even done the search for the Elist implant on this board (all the threads)? Have you even bothered reading that link I just posted (from thunders.org)?
And just for other members reading this...Most men are not choosing to have their implant removed because \"they are expecting an immediate result\". If you read the threads on this board and at thunders.org, you would see their are many complications that go along with inserting a piece of plastic into a dynamic organ...I personally had my implant removed due to \"infection\".

I get it...You are in the denial phase right now..Not much you can do now. But look at it from our end...We don\'t want any new member to make a misinformed choice if they happened to stumble across your thread. Your \"good so far\" status is apparently all well and good for you but you haven\'t spent countless hours corresponding with Elist victims. These men have suffered so greatly. Again, as I have said many times...if I can prevent even one man from experiencing the same horror I did...It will all be worth it.

Just one question...And can you please answer this. Have you asked the doctor what happens when the implant is removed? What does he say? Does he say that it will go back to the way it was before the operation? Do you think that removing it will be complication- free?
How about emailing Dr. Altar (Beverly Hills) and getting his opinion? He is one of the most respected urologists/plastic surgeons in the United States and has removed many (perhaps dozens) of Dr. Elist\'s implants. Why don\'t you ask him his thoughts on the implant and how complication-free removing the implant is?


And just for clarity...The initial loss of length from the surgery is absolutely the least of your worries right now.

Best of luck to you and your implant; and I mean this...I was in the exact same boat as you 7 years ago.

jjk wrote: Given thousands of surgeries Elist has performed the negative posts come from maybe 10 guys. I wish people who had positive results would post too but they probably don\'t want to be bothered since they got ....

Why would anyone in their right mind so passionately defend a doctor who has clearly deformed mens penises? You\'ve only just had the procedure, and are still not even in a position to be a case study, yet you deem it normal behavior to go up against the whole board in defense of Elist?? Sir, or Ma\'am, the others here might have given you some legitimacy. I haven\'t. Even if you\'ve had the surgery, there\'s no one I know who would go out of the way like this, to this extent, for ANY doctor, without some kind of incentive.

************FORGIVE ME FOR I HAVE SINNED*******************

I have a public Announcement/confession to make to this board. I want to apologize to Boss Skeptical One, All the great Mods, all the board veterans and new readers. I have an admission to make.

Since about late 2008 I have been a shill for Dr Wild, he has paid me large monthly amounts of Pesos to demote elist\'s very successful and revolutionary \"best in the business Fully Approved AMA silicone, first and best in the world\" implant.

Dr Wild knew then that elist will dominate the PE market so he hired me to pretend I had the implant and to post lies and fake pix to deter smart attorneys and engineers from going with the elist number one implant.

Dr Wild would call me every day and give me new instructions on how to derail elist\'s \"implant no stopping success\".

Unfortunately, elist has had such success with the implant that eventually, yesterday, Dr Wild pulled the plug and stopped his campaign.

I have lost my income and I am now so pissed off at Dr Wild that I want to expose him for the bad man that he is/was.

From here on, I shall promote elist, who has just hired me and who will be giving me his \"latest and the greatest Silicone Martian copy\" implant for FREE!

elist had informed me that The Martians had given him this wonderful \"Alien technologically Advanced implant\" for years. He told me the Martians had been experimenting on humans with this implant and elist was/is their best human dr who accepted this fantastic implant where every single other Dr was mentally/surgically unable to learn how to insert the implant.

So now that I have come clean, I will tell you about the features of the elist implant.

Martians have assured elist, and me recently; yes they contacted me this morning, that the implant will do the following:

Increase EL by FOUR imperial INCHES.
Increase Girth by 1-2 meters.
Increase Semen production 10 FOLDS, yes ladies and gentlemen, 10 folds. Facials will become an art.
Eliminate any and all forms of ED: Erectile Dysfunction.
Increase number of orgasms in men and women alike.
Will make ALL men, even who do not have the implant, MULTI ORGASMIC MEN!
Men Around men with this implant will start having a MENSTRUAL PERIOD EVERY 3 weeks to coincide with their female partners, this will insure equality with bitching modes!
It will help All relationships and Marriages. Divorce rate will plummet to 2% and Attorneys in South Florida will lose their jobs. But jjk will keep his.
Sexual intercourse between men and women will increase from the average of 2-3 times a week to three times A DAY!
Gay couples will never have sex again.
If implant is removed, one will see a further increase in length and width of 2\" inches MINIMUM!
There will never be Peyronie\'s disease once removed, But hey, who will EVER remove it!
Many more features to come.

The Martians will keep feeding elist and I all the new benefits of this new technique that our human race will enjoy for years to come.

I will be the main contact between elist and his Martians buddies and you; the humans!
I will be receiving huge sums of Green/Aqua Martians $$ that will be cached at the NYSE this Xmas, 2012039!

Again, Please forgive me for fooling the public for almost a decade. It was fun while it lasted but now I am going Legit!

Any questions?
Send your donations to:

PO box elist and the Martians
South Florida, jjk-001

ELIST FOR PRESIDENT 2018!!!!

Just in the remote chance that a new reader may not understand the above, look here-> ..get it?

Mustang. Your wanted back on the mother ship. You\'ve convinced me. There is no way that the Elist implant will be successful for me. The man who has practiced medicine for 40 years without having any license issues clearly wants all of his patients dicks to be disfigured and micro sized. How diabolical of him yet genius as he continues to do 4 surgeries a day at 14500 a pop. We\'re all doomed. The FDA must immediately withdraw its approval of dr elist being the only doctor allowed to do his patented implant surgery. On second thought I\'ll just follow the doctors instructions and have a big thick Cock that will be worshipped by women

LOL.....I will be more than happy to leave this forsaken earth and go back to the mother ship...

I guarantee you, jjk, you WILL have major complications since you Dick was rolled over like a condom by an invisible incision around the glans, even though your photos were \"photo shopped\" by the Martians to show the typical incision at the abdomen. IF you really have it.

But, hold on to your horses, elist is paying me big bucks so I will have to stick around a bit more. Once I have a few mills, I\'ll be outa here!

jjk wrote: The FDA must immediately withdraw its approval of dr elist being the only doctor allowed to do his patented implant surgery.

Just for clarity, you do understand that the FDA did not directly give approval for the Elist implant, don\'t you? He is using word play in that the material is FDA approved, not specifically his implant.

JJk
So you are taking a sociopathic doctor\'s \"word\" over a dozen personal (documented) horror stories (many with pictures) on this board? ....Plus my word that there are many more men who I have had contact with that that have had catastrophic implant issues and finally Removal. Or do you think I am lying?


Do me a favor and contact he following doctor...Do some DD and you will find his reputation is impeccable.
Dr. Alter (Beverly Hills)
Email:Altermd@altermd.com
Telephone: (310) 275-5566

Just shoot him an email and tell him you have the implant. Ask him what he thinks of the Elist implant and if he has ever had to remove any of them.
He may take a few days to get back to you but he will. And he will verify everything we are saying on this board.
Will you send the message or do you prefer not to know?


And by the very fact that you did not understand the Elist FDA semantics (issue) makes me question a lot about your basic understanding of the situation you got yourself in. I am not making a dig at you, I just believe you have no idea how much you are being played.

To be clear...I don\'t deny that you guys have had a bad experience with your implants. I believe the doctor would acknowledge that his old implant...the two piece version...did have issues. In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I was private messaged by a guy who had the old version done in 2009 and now will be going in to get the new version as his research led him To believe that it is superior to the one he has and addresses the complications that occurred with the old version. Listen, every surgery can have complications. Joan Rivers died having a routine surgery. Overall the percentages are on my side that I will have a good result. Don\'t come at me with \"all the people I know who did it had a bad result\" argument because the only people that are coming to these boards are people who had less than positive outcomes but when you take into account that thousands of this surgery have been performed by dr elist and only a hand full of them are posting negatively that tells me that the vast majority have had satisfactory results. Again. I\'m not downplaying your particular outcomes only that your outcome does not accurately reflect what someone should expect from the surgery. I hope others who had the surgery and had positive outcomes start to post but I doubt they will given the stacks. I don\'t mind arguing because I do it for a living

I would love to see that pm. SO is there any to verify a copy of the forementioned pm from a member here to this person.

I can say I was pm\'ed by purple donkey yesterday but it wont make that the truth.

Jjk, I was almost an Elist victim, um I mean patient. I have a legit 6.25 by 5.85 Erect penis. I felt my whole life that I am on the small side due to watching porn and being molested at a young age. I have always dreamed of having a larger tool to work with.

Elist promised me a permanent 1\" gain in Girth and a 4\" increase in flacid length. He said flacid length due to the implant not allowing me to turtle, as I an a Grower not a shower, and 1 Inch in Erect length.

Elist said my flacid size is micro penis size....... and only he could fix that.

I like to consider myself a smart person, I was doing some dd and google his implant to see all of these great testimonies of his incredible success rate, but luckily I found the truth about the horrific things that are guaranteed to happen.

When I found PhalloBoards I was Jelqing and stretching. What I found here is shocking.

Ready. Sit down, relax, open the mind, open your thoughts, here it is the truth.

I dont have a micro penis. Its not small. Im larger than average.


I found that out here.

Today I dont even think about my size. I no longer do anything stretch pump jelq.

Thanks to the info found here.




Why would a medical doctor play on my insecurities and tell me I have a micro penis?

Greed. I honestly believe he thinks he is doing a good service for men.

jjk wrote: To be clear...I don\'t deny that you guys have had a bad experience with your implants. I believe the doctor would acknowledge that his old implant...the two piece version...did have issues. In one of my earlier posts I mentioned I was private messaged by a guy who had the old version done in 2009 and now will be going in to get the new version as his research led him To believe that it is superior to the one he has and addresses the complications that occurred with the old version. Listen, every surgery can have complications. Joan Rivers died having a routine surgery. Overall the percentages are on my side that I will have a good result. Don\'t come at me with \"all the people I know who did it had a bad result\" argument because the only people that are coming to these boards are people who had less than positive outcomes but when you take into account that thousands of this surgery have been performed by dr elist and only a hand full of them are posting negatively that tells me that the vast majority have had satisfactory results. Again. I\'m not downplaying your particular outcomes only that your outcome does not accurately reflect what someone should expect from the surgery. I hope others who had the surgery and had positive outcomes start to post but I doubt they will given the stacks. I don\'t mind arguing because I do it for a living

We aren\'t talking about just about people who came to these boards with bad results though. I think close to a 100% of guys who have detailed their experience with Elist implant from before surgery to after, have had to have it removed. To you the likes of Messageman and Mustang are just names on a forum, but I knew of these guys on MNS when they had the implants originally and like you were positive about it. Whether the implant is one piece or 2 makes no difference. The issue is that it\'s a solid implant and the penis is a dynamic organ. It\'s a flawed concept, hence no one else does it. You\'ve even mentioned that the design of the implant has changed over the years, so you can\'t even lie to yourself and believe no one else does it due Elist\'s patent. No one else uses silicone implants for girth enhancement because it\'s a crazy concept.

As someone else mentioned, Dr Lemperle, who assisted Dr Elist in trying to help improve the implant, has now spoken out against it. That\'s because he\'s witnessed first hand the devastation it\'s caused. I know you don\'t believe all the reviews on medical sites are fakes, but I promise you they didn\'t exist until Elist went on a major marketing campaign and tried to silence forums reporting the truth by threatening legal action (I\'ll post a link below.) Don\'t you think it\'s odd how he very few reviews for years and then suddenly about 2 years ago loads and load of 5 star ratings started popping up? Do you think that is just coincidence or the work of someone that would try and pull this shit:

www.thundersplace.org/penis-enlargement/...-thunders-place.html

This is for the readers who wish to understand facts about elist implant, it is not meant for elist believers.

Once the infection state is overcome by huge amounts of antibiotics injections that are given by elist, because he does not care about his victims and operate with dirty hands (read my report about illegal operations in his office with dirty hands) then the next stage is healing and scar tissue formation. If a victim passes that stage, now he will have sharp edges and pain near the glans and on the penile shaft. If he gets through this, he now has problems with pain and erections due to the enormous strain the heavy solid implant puts on the shaft. If the victim is young this will be less of a problem. Older men will have huge problems with achieving full erections and with pain which can cause ED and a loss of sensation and difficulty in orgasms, happened to me and others.

Now the scar tissue keeps on building up till it surrounds the whole implant, this is around 6-9 months into it. The victim will have Girth but full Erect length will be reduced by and Inch or more. I had lost over 1.5\" of full EL with the implant.

IF the victim can put up with all this trauma, then all he can do it keep the implant from rupturing through the penile skin which is very easy to do if you have any rough sex.

If any problems develop, the victim is in a world of hurt. Removal or replacement are the only two options.

Replacement will just keep the demons in check because the new implant will keep the penis from shrinking and from developing Peyronie\'s disease. Happened to ALL victims who removed it because it is how the body reacts when a foreign implant is removed. Ask any real Dr and he will confirm this.

Removal is very very tricky for the victim. Most victims will have shorter EL and Peyronie\'s, others will have severe retraction and severe curvature of the shaft and severe destruction to the penile skin as seen in some photos in this thread.

Many victims of elist have no choice but to go back and either get it fixed or get another implant to keep the Removal problems at bay. It is a choice between two evils.

elist knows everything that is why he wants to replace, not remove, the implant for two reasons:
1. To keep the Removal problems in check and to keep the victim in the dark.
2. to continue with his experimentation to find better designs. He has improved the design of the implant and made it softer as time went by.

A solid silicone implant design and concept are flawed for anyone who knows anything about the penis structure and human body reaction to foreign matter.

Look at PMMA in the penis, it has its flows but for hundreds of documented success stories here, it shows an overall great record. There few reported bad cases are also reported here. WHO said that patients report ONLY negative results??? I wonder who!

Jjk will only realize what the truth is when he\'s looking down at his penis & the shell of a man he once was, yes that\'s what it feels like after going thru a terrible experience with this terrible implant.

Maybe jjk hit the powerball is a lucky patient that will be very happy with the implant, his penis grows several inches in Erect & Flaccid state, & he banging Victoria Secret models within 2 years? Lmao......

What a complete scumbag