TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

Please see pic with my username and date. Hope I have put to rest the idea that I am some sort of fake poster. 10006. If you have a story to tell the tell it in full detail. When you had your surgery and what happened from beginning to end. I am telling MY story for what it\'s worth to anyone who wants to know. My surgery was on January 23rd. I wish others had done what I\'m doing so I would have had a road map of what to expect along the way. So far so good for me. Stories from people with the older model are less relevant to me because I\'m sure it was a different experience than the new and improved version as well as the fact that the doctor has had more experience

I already have it\'s on here.

Jjk
For the record...From my second post I said I believed you were for real..
And there have been several roadmaps provided on this site....but you have chosen not to regard them as legitimate (older model?) because they don\'t have the happy ending you are understandedbly hoping for.
And just for the record (again)...If the older model were so defective , why is that Dr. Elist assured us that it was complication-free and permanent? Would you at least admit that he was not telling the truth (or at best mistaken) with the \"original\" model (since this current model is so much better?

jjk wrote: Please see pic with my username and date. Hope I have put to rest the idea that I am some sort of fake poster. 10006. If you have a story to tell the tell it in full detail. When you had your surgery and what happened from beginning to end. I am telling MY story for what it\'s worth to anyone who wants to know. My surgery was on January 23rd. I wish others had done what I\'m doing so I would have had a road map of what to expect along the way. So far so good for me. Stories from people with the older model are less relevant to me because I\'m sure it was a different experience than the new and improved version as well as the fact that the doctor has had more experience

What are you actually doing to help new potential victims? How many weeks are you post operation at this point? Too soon to truly help anyone. You are in no way out of the woods yet. I had the implant put in mid May 2016 and removed at the end of September 2016. No infection occurred but the implant came apart inside my Dick! Almost broke through my skin right before my eyes. My penis was being stretched to a pyramid penis by the implant on one end and had a sharp edge coming through near the glans! Upon Removal I was left shorter, ED, and loss of sensation. As for aesthetics I made out pretty ok. My Dick doesn\'t appear much shorter(even tho I know it is i refuse to measure it...too depressing) and it is actually thicker. But that thickness is from left over scar tissue. Which is painful sometime and has left me with a slight upward curvature. I just had a consultation with Dr. Solomon out in PA about removing the scar tissue left over by the implant. Really fun fact: Dr. S is opening an office in LA within the next couple weeks bc he deals with so many Elist victims. I wish you the best but its not really about that at this point. The best I could do for you is encourage you to remove that thing ASAP. Also, show some pics of your name on a piece of paper next to your entire penis including the incision please.

jjk wrote: Please see pic with my username and date. Hope I have put to rest the idea that I am some sort of fake poster. 10006. If you have a story to tell the tell it in full detail. When you had your surgery and what happened from beginning to end. I am telling MY story for what it\'s worth to anyone who wants to know. My surgery was on January 23rd. I wish others had done what I\'m doing so I would have had a road map of what to expect along the way. So far so good for me. Stories from people with the older model are less relevant to me because I\'m sure it was a different experience than the new and improved version as well as the fact that the doctor has had more experience

For some reason, I can\'t see any pictures on this site.....none the less, others say your pics are real, its good enough.

But the thing is, there gave been many furious past patients of the butcher of Beverly Hills & our minds won\'t be convinced otherwise about the doctor.

He\'s practicing under marketing skills that has pulled the wool over many people.....I don\'t know how GQ wrote the article w/o getting past patients results from actual patients, unless of course Elist gave them fake patients names & numbers.

Boggles my mind how this doctor is still operating.....its all about money, & lots of people seem to be corrupted by it.

messageman My pic wasn\'t directed at you...more so to Mustang and a few others that have been challenging my authenticity throughout my posts. I don\'t disregard the posts by people who had a negative experience. I was extremely appalled by the person that said his penis was sliced in half to insert the implant as opposed through the abdominal incision because he said the doctor said there was something blocking the abdominal area to insert it they way he normally does. If that were true I would think he would have a lawsuit as the surgery was not performed per the way it was explained to him so his consent would be invalid. I think you may have misinterpreted my post regarding the earlier version vs. the new version. I don\'t believe that the majority of people with the old implant had problems either. Otherwise Elist would have been shut down long ago through normal market forces let alone the California Medical Association. If he were doing the damage on a widespread basis that people in here believe is the normal outcome of the surgery he wouldn\'t be able to have a demand for his service. The internet would have been flooded with hundreds of negative complaints and I haven\'t seen that in my research. To the contrary I see a relatively small number of passionate posters that have been posting for the last 8 years. That is their right and they deserve to be heard. But I deserve to be heard too. I know it seems to all in here that I am \"promoting\" Elist. In truth I am not. All I am doing is documenting MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE SURGERY. Everyone reading my posts need to understand that. I am not being paid by anyone or being promised anything. I am only doing what I wish someone else had done so I could have a point of reference as I heal...

Who stated there penis was sliced in half? Because it did happen, just wondering of their screen name?

jjk wrote: messageman My pic wasn\'t directed at you...more so to Mustang and a few others that have been challenging my authenticity throughout my posts. I don\'t disregard the posts by people who had a negative experience. I was extremely appalled by the person that said his penis was sliced in half to insert the implant as opposed through the abdominal incision because he said the doctor said there was something blocking the abdominal area to insert it they way he normally does. If that were true I would think he would have a lawsuit as the surgery was not performed per the way it was explained to him so his consent would be invalid. I think you may have misinterpreted my post regarding the earlier version vs. the new version. I don\'t believe that the majority of people with the old implant had problems either. Otherwise Elist would have been shut down long ago through normal market forces let alone the California Medical Association. If he were doing the damage on a widespread basis that people in here believe is the normal outcome of the surgery he wouldn\'t be able to have a demand for his service. The internet would have been flooded with hundreds of negative complaints and I haven\'t seen that in my research. To the contrary I see a relatively small number of passionate posters that have been posting for the last 8 years. That is their right and they deserve to be heard. But I deserve to be heard too. I know it seems to all in here that I am \"promoting\" Elist. In truth I am not. All I am doing is documenting MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE SURGERY. Everyone reading my posts need to understand that. I am not being paid by anyone or being promised anything. I am only doing what I wish someone else had done so I could have a point of reference as I heal...

Then how do you explain the careers of Gary Rheinchild, Ricardo Sammiter and Sheldon Burman? These guys wreaked havoc in the penis enlargement community for decades. In the end 2 people had to die before they lost their licenses. Gary Rheinchild didn\'t have a single complaint registered against him until one of our members came forward and did so. There are loads of Elist victims here and many more from MNS and none have filed a complaint. I was a victim of a surgeon in Serbia along with several other guys I know. Not one of us ever took any action. I can say that I\'ve genuinely encountered several hundred people who have had terrible PE surgery results over the years and no of just 1 or 2 who took any action either legally or just via complaining to a medical board etc.

One of our members took legal action against Elist and it was a total waste of time. In the end I think he ended up with just $3000 and nothing happened to Elist.


I really don\'t think you believe us, when we say things like we hope everything works out for you. Or that we genuinely don\'t want to cause you stress. I\'ve been through bad PE surgery and hate the thought of it happening to other people and I\'m not even that compassionate of a person. I equally hate the thought of causing someone anxiety and have discussed this with other people regarding your posts. I hate having to respond to you in a way that might effect your mental state in a bad way. But you continually poke the bear with your irrational and illogical thinking. It\'s as if you make posts just to try and force us to debunk your own rational.

If you are trying to think in a way that eases your mind and allows you to feel more positive, then great and continue to do so. But don\'t post these flawed thinking patterns on here, as we will feel compelled to highlight the errors in your thought process for the reasons I mentioned before, about not wanting others to make the mistake of having this surgery.

I stress again it\'s nothing personal. I never doubted your story and I told everyone who asked me about you, that you were for real. But do yourself a favour and stop posting how you rationalize the bad reports about Elist. You\'d be doing us all a favour as I know for a fact a few members feel uncomfortable and even guilty about painting such a bleak picture for you, when really you just want support.

Please no more nonsense about patents, FDA approval, old/new versions or not having lost his medical license.

I believe a while back, there was an elsit victim who\'s penis was opened down the top center of the shaft to insert the implant. This was one of the very early cases in the elist road to experiment with real humans.

I still have not heard form Aero604 who had documented his experience with the elsit implant but now has disappeared. Hope he and his partner would update us.

It would be much more convincing when a new comer would start their own thread about any penis enhancement they have had and to show before and after clear pix of the process. There are tens and tens of such accounts on this site. One can easily determine if they are real or fake cases.

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Amazeballs wrote: What are you actually doing to help new potential victims? How many weeks are you post operation at this point? Too soon to truly help anyone. You are in no way out of the woods yet. I had the implant put in mid May 2016 and removed at the end of September 2016. No infection occurred but the implant came apart inside my Dick! Almost broke through my skin right before my eyes. My penis was being stretched to a pyramid penis by the implant on one end and had a sharp edge coming through near the glans! Upon Removal I was left shorter, ED, and loss of sensation. As for aesthetics I made out pretty ok. My Dick doesn\'t appear much shorter(even tho I know it is i refuse to measure it...too depressing) and it is actually thicker. But that thickness is from left over scar tissue. Which is painful sometime and has left me with a slight upward curvature. I just had a consultation with Dr. Solomon out in PA about removing the scar tissue left over by the implant. Really fun fact: Dr. S is opening an office in LA within the next couple weeks bc he deals with so many Elist victims. I wish you the best but its not really about that at this point. The best I could do for you is encourage you to remove that thing ASAP. Also, show some pics of your name on a piece of paper next to your entire penis including the incision please.

I would like to encourage you to start your own thread and share your experiences with us. Readers are smart enough to make up their own decisions based on your report and photos.

Of course you can continue to share your real thoughts/feelings anytime.

jjk wrote: The internet would have been flooded with hundreds of negative complaints and I haven\'t seen that in my research.

Try to post something negative about him on one of the doctor review sites.
Elist will have it removed. Magically, all that\'s left are positive, glowing reviews, of which I am certain the Elist team had a part in posting the majority.

Yup....all my pictures & posts got deleted over at MNS as did others, Chad was a shill for Elist.

Amazeballs wrote: What are you actually doing to help new potential victims? How many weeks are you post operation at this point? Too soon to truly help anyone. You are in no way out of the woods yet. I had the implant put in mid May 2016 and removed at the end of September 2016. No infection occurred but the implant came apart inside my Dick! Almost broke through my skin right before my eyes. My penis was being stretched to a pyramid penis by the implant on one end and had a sharp edge coming through near the glans! Upon Removal I was left shorter, ED, and loss of sensation. As for aesthetics I made out pretty ok. My Dick doesn\'t appear much shorter(even tho I know it is i refuse to measure it...too depressing) and it is actually thicker. But that thickness is from left over scar tissue. Which is painful sometime and has left me with a slight upward curvature. I just had a consultation with Dr. Solomon out in PA about removing the scar tissue left over by the implant. Really fun fact: Dr. S is opening an office in LA within the next couple weeks bc he deals with so many Elist victims. I wish you the best but its not really about that at this point. The best I could do for you is encourage you to remove that thing ASAP. Also, show some pics of your name on a piece of paper next to your entire penis including the incision please.

BTW, since you removed it in a few months, you may have saved your self from much more severe nerve damage and more scar tissue that causes Peyronie\'s and loss of sensation and early ED. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones, I am happy for you man!

I know the emotional trauma that goes on in such a situation when most elist victims try to forget the agony and not publish it on the web. I know I did but I later decided to go ahead and post my experiences. It was devastating and depressing, still is when I see more people getting it, but I hope in time the Beverly Hills Butcher will stop!

Also BTW, Dr Solomon would be an excellent witness in a law suit!

Mustang2020 wrote: I know the emotional trauma that goes on in such a situation when most elist victims try to forget the agony and not publish it on the web.

And you also have to take into consideration that for many victims, they may choose not to put their experience out there because, ironically, they think that Elist is the only one that can fix the mess. If you have a failed implant, need it removed, and face retraction and deformation while thinking the doctor who did it is the only one to get you out of it, you probably are not going to go burning bridges.