TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

briceb wrote:
And you also have to take into consideration that for many victims, they may choose not to put their experience out there because, ironically, they think that Elist is the only one that can fix the mess. If you have a failed implant, need it removed, and face retraction and deformation while thinking the doctor who did it is the only one to get you out of it, you probably are not going to go burning bridges.

Yup, that also comes into play. And why hasn\'t a multiple person lawsuit come against Elist? Me myself going thru the trauma with this implant had me feeling all alone in the world. I had contacted several attorneys but as soon as they heard the words penile surgery, they weren\'t interested.

Maybe I didn\'t get a hold of the right attorneys, because I know I had a case, but as fragile minded as I was back then, its very difficult to keep pressing because you want to forget about the horrific situation you\'ve been put into by the butcher of Beverly Hills

Hi guys spoke with Dr. Omead today from Dr Elist\'s office. I had emailed my recent pics as I normally do every Thursday as well to show him the healing of the ingrown hair issue. All is healing well. Thanks for all your support. I included in my email to the doctor that I am posting in here and the skepticism that I received from my friends here. I also spoke with the doctor in more detail about the surgery. First I want to acknowledge that I was wrong about the penis skin being rolled own. The implant is inserted through the abdominal incision line and attached.

Dr. Omead told me about a Middle Eastern guy...are any of you from the Middle East?...that was happy with the surgery but called Dr. Elist a couple of weeks after the surgery saying that he wanted his money back or else he would post all over the internet bad things about Elist and the surgery. So you can see there are shills on both sides. I am not one of them. The doctor also told me that one of you in here admitted that you had sex 3 days after the surgery. Why the hell would you do that and not expect to have an issue or how you could do it and not feel extreme pain is crazy. Come clean and tell us who did it.
So far everything that I was told to expect has come to pass and I am happy. You guys need to be honest so we have an intellectually honest discussion.

I went to 2 doctors in NYC when my stitches popped around my glans after my graft Removal and there was a gap of white tissue - it was so fucking humiliating. The first doctor brought in 2 nurses - they all stared at me in silence while my pants were off then walked out together. When the doctor came back in, he said he couldn\'t help me as it wasn\'t something he had seen before. Then I had to walk by them all as they stood in silence in the hallway staring at me. The second doctor did help me but acted either cross or disgusted - it couldn\'t tell which. Maybe that was his bedside manner but I took it personally and felt like an idiot. He told me to just leave it so technically he did nothing for me but give me an ointment to prevent infection. And these were only post-PE stitches - granted I was bruised and swelled up and looked really bad. No doctor is going to touch you with an implant for fear of being in the middle of a lawsuit where Elist says the damage happened during the Removal and not the insert.

Dr. Elist implant...he inserts a silicone implant so I don\'t get why you blame Elist for your complications with grafts. That is a totally different surgery than what we\'re talking about in here.

jjk wrote: Hi guys spoke with Dr. Omead today from Dr Elist\'s office. I had emailed my recent pics as I normally do every Thursday as well to show him the healing of the ingrown hair issue. All is healing well. Thanks for all your support. I included in my email to the doctor that I am posting in here and the skepticism that I received from my friends here. I also spoke with the doctor in more detail about the surgery. First I want to acknowledge that I was wrong about the penis skin being rolled own. The implant is inserted through the abdominal incision line and attached.

Dr. Omead told me about a Middle Eastern guy...are any of you from the Middle East?...that was happy with the surgery but called Dr. Elist a couple of weeks after the surgery saying that he wanted his money back or else he would post all over the internet bad things about Elist and the surgery. So you can see there are shills on both sides. I am not one of them. The doctor also told me that one of you in here admitted that you had sex 3 days after the surgery. Why the hell would you do that and not expect to have an issue or how you could do it and not feel extreme pain is crazy. Come clean and tell us who did it.
So far everything that I was told to expect has come to pass and I am happy. You guys need to be honest so we have an intellectually honest discussion.

Nobody is stupid enough to have sex within 3 days of the surgery.....Elist is lying once again. Dude, you have fallen hook, line & sinker for this clown.

I have every single email sent & received to & from Elist, never erased any of them. He was acting like nothing was wrong with my implant as I sent him pictures.

jjk wrote: The doctor also told me that one of you in here admitted that you had sex 3 days after the surgery. Why the hell would you do that and not expect to have an issue or how you could do it and not feel extreme pain is crazy. Come clean and tell us who did it.
So far everything that I was told to expect has come to pass and I am happy. You guys need to be honest so we have an intellectually honest discussion.

I\'ve been a member for over a year now, and I\'ve read most of the posts on this site, going back to four- five years ago. I can say, unequivocally, that I have never come across a patient, recently coming off a surgery, who is repping the procedure as hard as you are. What ethical doctor discusses private patient information with a new patient? Even at the risk of losing his license, which you\'ve just accused Elist of doing? But more incredulously, what patient, of a still-healing procedure, comes on a forum and demands that someone here \"come clean\" about their post-surgery experience?? Let alone a new member?? It\'s eons beyond absurd.

Again, whether you had, or didn\'t have the surgery, is a moot point. What I am certain of, is that you are a shill for Elist.

jjk wrote: Hi guys spoke with Dr. Omead today from Dr Elist\'s office. I had emailed my recent pics as I normally do every Thursday as well to show him the healing of the ingrown hair issue. All is healing well. Thanks for all your support. I included in my email to the doctor that I am posting in here and the skepticism that I received from my friends here. I also spoke with the doctor in more detail about the surgery. First I want to acknowledge that I was wrong about the penis skin being rolled own. The implant is inserted through the abdominal incision line and attached.

Dr. Omead told me about a Middle Eastern guy...are any of you from the Middle East?...that was happy with the surgery but called Dr. Elist a couple of weeks after the surgery saying that he wanted his money back or else he would post all over the internet bad things about Elist and the surgery. So you can see there are shills on both sides. I am not one of them. The doctor also told me that one of you in here admitted that you had sex 3 days after the surgery. Why the hell would you do that and not expect to have an issue or how you could do it and not feel extreme pain is crazy. Come clean and tell us who did it.
So far everything that I was told to expect has come to pass and I am happy. You guys need to be honest so we have an intellectually honest discussion.

My God.... Ok, you are either
A: incredible stupid
B: another shill for elist..

One thing is shure, I don\'t believe you are an attorney..

JazzyJ wrote: I have every single email sent & received to & from Elist, never erased any of them. He was acting like nothing was wrong with my implant as I sent him pictures.

Save everything and make a hard copy ASAP. If you loose your email, you have no proof.

elist is a pathological lair. He will make up anything and lie about anything to fool his victims and manipulate his critics. He feeds on men\'s insecurities about their penis size.

\"If\" he is doing 4 implants a day, at 5 days a week, at; lets say 10 months a year, for a few years, that makes it what, about 1600 implants in 2 years? If you believe that, you will also believe his implant will increase the Erect Length magically, where all other methods have failed to increase EL.

The reality is, he is doing 2-3 a week MAX and he is removing 1-2 MINIMUM a week. Every single elist victim who posted here, had a positive initial experience and trusted elist and believed in him. Only later, such as \"the Dane\" were they to find out the true devil behind the man and his implant. They ALL lost any respect for him and hated his guts.

I suspect there are a very few guys who kept the implant in and as long as it does not break out of the skin and they live with its pain and limitations, they will be ok. But Like I said earlier, the longer it is kept in, the more massive the damage will be. If kept in, ED will develop at a much accelerated rate, Orgasm becomes more difficult to achieve, there will be loss of EL and there will be continued pain when having sex. Many sexual nerves will be destroyed forever. The penile shaft will lose most if not all of its sexual sensation. I think MM had lost a lot of shaft sensation.

Anyone who is thinking about this implant after reading this thread and other elist threads here, should have their head examined.

But hey, What do I know? I do not understand the surgery at all. I saw the great honest dr elist remove my implant while I was fully awake. I saw Everything and he later let me leave his office Alone (against medical practice) and was left bleeding for days.

Oh, wait a minute, I had the two piece implant, the one piece implant, and the mesh oh that mesh makes all the difference, just solves all the design problems, it even make the dynamic penis....non dynamic!!!! LOL.....

andydandy wrote: My God.... Ok, you are either A: incredible stupid B: another shill for elist.. One thing is shure, I don\'t believe you are an attorney..

andydandy wrote:
My God.... Ok, you are either
A: incredible stupid
B: another shill for elist..

One thing is shure, I don\'t believe you are an attorney..

He\'s definitely a shill for Elist.....he reminds me of that shill over at MNS who had an XL implant in, & he lives several miles from Elists office, & after a while decided to get the XXL, he showed pics too.

He was a shill, he was always on the forum & then disappeared when all of us put in appointments & received the terrible implant.

jjk if you could just stick to your progress report like most of us do that would be great

Still here guys....guess I struck a nerve...I am not a shill. First Mustang said over and over that I didn\'t have the surgery. I posted pics early on and but he said he want to see one with your user name and a date...I did that yesterday and still some are saying I didn\'t have the surgery. I have given such specific detail about my surgery and also my hiccup with the ingrown hair so far. The sore from the ingrown hair is healing nicely...thanks for your concern.

Jazzy...what size did you have put in you? I do believe that if you try to go too large that you could have an issue with the implant poking through the skin or irritating it a little below the glans.

Mustang...trust me when I tell you he is doing 2 or 3 a day because I witnessed it. I am an attorney in my 29th yer of practice

AndyDandy: been an attorney since 1988 what do you do for a living?

NOW I PUT ON MY LAWYER HAT: I can tell ALL OF YOU...IF what you guys are saying is true, Dr. Elist would have so many lawsuits to defend he wouldn\'t have time to do surgeries. You say the attorneys you spoke to wouldn\'t take your case. What does that tell you? It tells me you had no case! Attorneys make money suing people...especially doctors...so if they thought you really had a case they would have taken it. THUS YOU HAD NO CASE!! Don\'t think that you signed your rights away when you signed the consent forms. The consent must be \"informed consent\" which means that you properly have been advised of the risks. And just because you were advised of the risks that doesn\'t absolve the doctor for performing the surgery below the standard of care in the medical community. You all call him the \"Butcher of Beverly Hills\"...but if his standard of care fell so far below that of other medical doctors in the community then he would have had big problems...not just lawsuits but also with his license. Show me the case where he was sued and a judgment awarded against him. Even if he did have some lawsuits, given the fact that he has done more than a thousand surgeries that would actually be expected and normal. He doesn\'t advertise a 100% success rate.

My advice to the \"victims of Dr. Elist\" in here...if you really are victims..is to get on your knees and BEG him to put in the new implant.

Which one of you guys is Middle Eastern? Show yourself and answer to the accusation of extortion that was made against you. I want to hear your side of it. Which one of you had sex 3 days after the surgery?

jjk wrote: My advice to the \"victims of Dr. Elist\" in here...if you really are victims..is to get on your knees and BEG him to put in the new implant

Shill maybe. Troll definitely. You are offering nothing but deliberate aggression and conflict to this forum. It\'s time a mod put you out of your misery.

sg0123456 wrote:
Shill maybe. Troll definitely. You are offering nothing but deliberate aggression and conflict to this forum. It\'s time a mod put you out of your misery.

I agree, he might be banned if he keeps it up.