TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

He is a paid guy or an office employee. All the arguments he has written are text book propaganda being fed by elist and his staff.

No one can explain, to me anyway, how jjk shows in two photos (may be from another elist victim) the abdomen incision, yet he claims he was \"degloved\" and his penile skin was rolled down the shaft to insert the defunct implant...Does anyone need any more proof? there something fishy here!

At least jjk has kept it civil and has not resorted to cheap weak foul language nor has left this awful board, JK , Keeps it interesting.

jjk: It\'s not a question of \"yet\" - I will NEVER get the procedure you had. Stop trying to convince me.

Messageman: You said if you can prevent even one man from going through what you did - Mission Accomplished bro!

chester: I am beginning to agree with you man, about the legitimacy. Why else start posting in a thread called \"Considering the implant\"? Start your own thread in the progress report section, amirite?

Jazzy, Mustang, Briceb, Reklaw, hoodie: Thank you guys for having my back.

The private message person does exist. I won\'t reveal his ID because he doesn\'t want me to. He messaged me specifically to tell me not to listen to you guys because he did have a positive experience...not perfect...but good enough that he trusts Elist to put in the new one and have a good outcome. I believe he said that he did post on the forum but got tired of being attacked...sound familiar...I also received another pm from a guy that defined himself as having a micropenis because his Erect length is 3 inches. I believe he is correct. Being Flaccid 3 inches doesn\'t make you micropenis. I was Flaccid 3 inches to 3.5...now 4.25 and growing and 5.75 Erect. In all honesty I don\'t expect too much Erect gain and I\'m ok with that...if it does then all the better. I love the Flaccid Cock I have now and the way it fills up my underwear. My advice to the dude with micropenis was that if I were him I would do it.

Centurion...I was banging exotic dancers and bathing suit models in my 20\'s...almost married the bathing suit model but she didn\'t want kids...Dr. Elist would acknowledge that the 2 piece was inferior and did have far more problems than the new version. For everyone in here trying to tell anyone who will listen that 100% of the people that get the implant have it removed, you should stop because that simply isn\'t true and you have no facts to back it up. You know if it were true he would have lost his medical license. Did any of you guys bring a formal complaint to the California Medical Association? If so I would love to see the findings by the Board.

Jjk, my screen name isn\'t Centurion, look again.

Also, could you post a picture of your fabulous Cock as you put it with a piece of paper next to it dating March 19, 2017, that\'s a great way of showing us you\'re real.....& besides that, you can show us all how great your manhood is, you\'re so proud of it.

The house of cards will come tumbling down, that\'s a fact!

I personally believe JjK is for real...I just think he is trying to convince himself more than us right now.

Jjk
You obviously have not read done your due diligence (and thoroughly researched) because our board details the lawsuit issue in more than a few of our threads ....
Please utilize this website more...It\'s your only friend right now.

You state that the doctor admits that the implant was \"inferior and had far more problems than the new version\". But when I had my implant in 2009, the advertisement was \"less than 1% complication rate and \'for life\'\". Now he admits there were \"problems\" in the earlier version and that it was \"inferior\"? So there were \"problems\" with the implant and this doctor continued to use the implant anyway? How does that strike you? If a medical device (for strictly cosmetic reasons) is causing irreparable harm, do you think it is ok to continue using it? What does that tell you about the doctor? And when I tell you the percentage rate of \"issues\" was probably close to (if not) 100%, you scoff at the idea. Well, look at YOUR primary source of information: A sociopathic doctor.
Another thing, you have tons of evidence on this board (and thunders.org) that point to
a significant chance of catastrophic complications. You instead choose to believe the accused doctor (who is profiting) greatly from it. That\'s your choice. \"So far, so good\" as you say. But you feel confident enough now to start recommending this procedure to other men (as you did to the guy with the micro penis)? Really?
By the way, have you asked the doctor about the effects of removing the implant yet?
I am not being facetious when I say I really want to know what he has to say. Is he sticking to his claim that it is complication free?
And...please tell the doctor he is welcome to come on this site (himself) anytime and make his case...

MM, dude; you and I know this elist guy well. He is an egotistic person, he strives to boost his own ego. He sleeps well at night, has no compassion for the hundreds of victims he damaged for life. He has accused his victims of his implant failures, never himself.

When I told him I lost more than an Inch of EL and I showed him pix, he said I was measuring it wrong and he said I had to measure from the ball sack up!!!!! he measured me and all of a sudden I was 8\" long....in the name of God, heavens, Buddha; is that a human???

He does a partial lig cut to insert the implant inside the body. The implant then rubs against that area and causes massive scar tissue due to erections and retractions. When it is removed, there is a huge hole created in that area, he then stitches it back up crocked. This, I believe, has caused me further loss of EL and reversed my natural left curvature and it made it into an Un-natural right curvature!

It really still disturbs, me over 6 years later, to remember all these pains and yet he\'s still in practice.

I spent a lot of time and money consulting with a couple of Beverly Hills attorneys (one of them, can\'t remember his name, had heard of elist butchery) to see if they\'d file a law suit but it was over 2 years and I had signed all those papers and they said my case would be very weak and most likely would never even pass the first hearing. I should have pursued it, but I didn\'t, my mistake!

I also believe he\'s real, this thread has become ridiculous now.

Mustang. The procedure does not cut your ligament. The doctor\'s website and videos clearly state that he does not do that. That used to be done by a lot of doctors but the result was a Dick that had no support and didn\'t stand Erect so to speak. I will take more pictures On Thursday to show anyone who wants to see that I am for real so we can finally get past the \"how do we know those are real and current pics\" issue I will upload them with a newspaper date. That is for jazzy. Pacific. I am not trying to convince you of anything. If you chose not to have the surgery that\'s fine with me. I respect your decision. You didn\'t have the surgery so you don\'t really know what you\'re talking about other than what some of the other dudes in here are telling you. Messageman. I haven\'t asked the doctor specifically about Removal because I have no plan to do so. The surgery is reversible and that is addressed on his website. Class dismissed

Jjk
So you think the surgery is truly reversible (complication free)? After all these horrible accounts? There is not one documented case (on both PhalloBoards and Thunders.org) in which the implant was removed and there wasn\'t serious retraction of the penis, Peyronie\'s disease, numbness, etc. You are choosing to believe Dr. Elist\'s website instead?
And you don\'t even bother asking him about it? I get it Jjk...You are in denial...All of us former implantees were too.
I do believe you have had the surgery but I don\'t understand your motivation to come on this site. It is obvious your promotion of the doctor is not be being welcomed here (for good or for bad)....But why are you truly here? Don\'t get me wrong...I personally welcome your postings...and am generally interested in how the implant works out for you..But why would you post? There are basically no members who have the implant...
Are you eager to get the word out that this is a viable penile enlargement option? Do you feel the need to ingratiate yourself with Dr. Elist? I know I did when I was posting on Mynewsize.
No matter what though, I look forward to your updates....

jjk, I started this thread because I was considering the elist procedure. Thanks to all the responses, yours included, I have educated myself and reconsidered. You started posting in my thread your positive feelings about the surgery, which comes off like a promotion, and you said yet. I welcome your updates, but I see you as an extension of elist, which terrifies me. I want no contact with the man. By all means continue to post, but please stop addressing me and leave my name out of your posts.

I know that when I was researching before the surgery...and yes I researched and read everything I could find on the internet including you guys...I was hoping to find someone who had a recent experience with the implant and other than the doctor\'s postings there weren\'t many. I did see Aero602 posts and that was probably the closest to what I was searching for as he gave a detailed update over an extended period of time. After I had the surgery, I then looked for postings by guys who had recently had the surgery like me to get a comparison of the healing process and for support. Instead I found guys that had the surgery with the old implant and who had negative results. If I were you guys and were suffering so badly with your dicks, I would go back to Elist so that he can put in the new implant so that you can actually have the chance of having the Cock you desired so badly. One of you acknowledged that after having the implant taken out that your Girth remained and after serious yanking now have a longer Dick then before...the best outcome of all I would say...but I digress. I have taken it upon myself to post in here so that someone looking to see what is out there on the internet about the surgery at least gets a balanced picture. I\'m cautiously optimistic that my result will be good. People deserve the entire truth...not just your truth. At least someone doing their research will see that some people are very happy and some very unhappy but at least a complete picture.

jjk wrote: I know that when I was researching before the surgery...and yes I researched and read everything I could find on the internet including you guys...I was hoping to find someone who had a recent experience with the implant and other than the doctor\'s postings there weren\'t many. I did see Aero602 posts and that was probably the closest to what I was searching for as he gave a detailed update over an extended period of time. After I had the surgery, I then looked for postings by guys who had recently had the surgery like me to get a comparison of the healing process and for support. Instead I found guys that had the surgery with the old implant and who had negative results. If I were you guys and were suffering so badly with your dicks, I would go back to Elist so that he can put in the new implant so that you can actually have the chance of having the Cock you desired so badly. One of you acknowledged that after having the implant taken out that your Girth remained and after serious yanking now have a longer Dick then before...the best outcome of all I would say...but I digress. I have taken it upon myself to post in here so that someone looking to see what is out there on the internet about the surgery at least gets a balanced picture. I\'m cautiously optimistic that my result will be good. People deserve the entire truth...not just your truth. At least someone doing their research will see that some people are very happy and some very unhappy but at least a complete picture.

Why are you pretending it\'s only the old implant that has had problems? There are plenty of guys who had had problems with the one piece implant. It\'s like you are purposely trying to ignore what that issues with the implant are.

I\'ll tell you gain. The penis is a dynamic organ. It\'s not stable in size, in the way breasts are. Its usually about 50% bigger when Erect than Flaccid. It\'s also a foreign body, so scar tissue will form around it. So when it\'s removed (and all silicone implants are, be it breast, chin, cheeks or wherever), the scar tissue will still be there and will contract. This is what has happened to every single Elist patient to date and will happen to them all in the future. It\'s why not a single other plastic surgeon or Urologist offers this procedure.

If you don\'t believe a word I\'ve said, how on earth do you explain the reason that despite massive demand for penis enlargement, going back decades, no Dr\'s use the most common type of implant material in the world of cosmetic surgery? We are all aware of the tens of thousands of Dr\'s that offer facial and breast implants made of silicone, yet are you seriously suggesting that only Dr Elist ever though of putting it in the penis? Or do you believe that absurdly rudimentary design (ie a curved piece of silicone) was a stretch to far for anyone else?

hoddle10 wrote:
Why are you pretending it\'s only the old implant that has had problems? There are plenty of guys who had had problems with the one piece implant. It\'s like you are purposely trying to ignore what that issues with the implant are.

I\'ll tell you gain. The penis is a dynamic organ. It\'s not stable in size, in the way breasts are. Its usually about 50% bigger when Erect than Flaccid. It\'s also a foreign body, so scar tissue will form around it. So when it\'s removed (and all silicone implants are, be it breast, chin, cheeks or wherever), the scar tissue will still be there and will contract. This is what has happened to every single Elist patient to date and will happen to them all in the future. It\'s why not a single other plastic surgeon or Urologist offers this procedure.

If you don\'t believe a word I\'ve said, how on earth do you explain the reason that despite massive demand for penis enlargement, going back decades, no Dr\'s use the most common type of implant material in the world of cosmetic surgery? We are all aware of the tens of thousands of Dr\'s that offer facial and breast implants made of silicone, yet are you seriously suggesting that only Dr Elist ever though of putting it in the penis? Or do you believe that absurdly rudimentary design (ie a curved piece of silicone) was a stretch to far for anyone else?

If this silicone penile implant really worked, every doctor in the world would be using it, every porn star would have a 10 Inch Dick, & every man in the country would be lined up waiting in line.

I wonder if we will ever see an cancer cases come out of these silicone implants ......we have seen women get breast cancer from silicone breast implants......I wonder if one day men will need to chop off their penises because they got cancer in their penises from the implant.

I hope there is never a case of those extreme cases.

Jjk, I wish you luck, hope you have a wonderful life with your new implant.....

Difference between Elist & Dr Atala are Atala has been experimenting on rabbits & other animals for over 20 years with attaching lab grown penises with great success......Elist never had any clinical trials on animals, he jumped right to humans.

2 piece silicone or 1 piece silicone, doesn\'t matter, the same result usually happens, & its not good.

HODDLE 10: The people posting in here are dudes that had the 2 piece unit. I haven\'t seen the \"horror stories\" of guys who had the 4th generation implant. It is a completely different design in that it incorporates a mesh in the silicone which makes it more durable and unlikely to separate and the issue of edges poking through the skin near the glans has also been resolved in the new version from what I\'ve seen...including people who had the old and then put in the new. It seems as if you are purposely not acknowledging that the new implant has not had the negative issues that the old one did and certainly fewer complaints. As far as why is Dr. Elist the only one who is doing it, it\'s because he is the only doctor permitted to do it by the FDA. He has many patents on the silicone implants and the most recent version seems to have substantially reduced some of the negative complaints from the prior versions. It takes a lot of time and money to design and create a medical device. To his credit the good doctor dedicated himself to making it and improving it.

PACIFIC: I am not promoting anything to you. You have made your decision and I respect it. I made mine and am going through the process of recovering from the surgery that goes no for 8 months or longer. I don\'t really understand why you take it so personally that I say anything considered positive since you didn\'t have the surgery.


Now to DJJAZZY Jeff Every doctor in the world can\'t do this procedure...only Elist is permitted to do it...look it up because it\' true. Secondly the doctor doesn\'t promise everyone they can have a 10 Inch Dick. If you look at his website and internet posting, he is actually quite careful not to trumpet Erect length gains. He accentuates Flaccid length and Girth and Erect Girth. He does say when you speak to him that some Erect length will come after a while as the weight of the implant when it is fully released results in some lengthening. If anyone reading this thinks there is a guarantee of Erect length increase then definitely think twice. If you have a really small penis you will probably get some Erect length. If you want to be more of a shower in Flaccid state and want a thicker Cock then you will be happy.

Your statement that \"2 piece or 1 piece doesn\'t matter, the same result usually happens\" is not true from what I see in here and other postings. Please direct me to the research that confirms your assertions. I stand on the fact that the people who are complaining on the internet had the older version. If the new version were so dangerous the internet would be flooded with complaints yet I don\'t see them. For those who had the new version, come out come out from wherever you are and gives us your horror story or if by chance you actually had a good experience come in and post too. Dudes seeking a bigger member await your stories!!!

Much love to all in here...even though you guys are as passionate against the implant as I am for it we can have a civil discourse. I really hope you guys are wrong and you should actually hope you\'re wrong too because 3-4 guys a day are getting the surgery. Most important though is that we be honest and not attack each other for the sake of attacking

So The Dane had the 2 piece implant? The guy in the link had the 2 piece implant? The mesh is new! And does anything change what I\'ve said about what the main issue with the concept is?

Also, you know he has no patent for your implant and that he isn\'t the only Dr permitted to use it by the FDA. Any Dr in the US can use the same implant and they don\'t need FDA permission to do so. You are either very badly in denial or are trolling us.

To prove you aren\'t just trolling, please post a link to the patent you are referring to. Also show some proof that Elist is the only Dr permitted to use it be the FDA.