TOPIC: Considering the elist implant

jjk wrote: briceb I did read his Txhog\'s post. It appears that he developed an infection. That is a real and possible issue with the surgery. If you leave the penis to heal for the first month you should be ok.

He stated that he went to a Urologist and the tests came back that he did not have an infection. He did leave the implant to heal and followed the instructions given. That resulted in the implant continuing to protrude through the skin, ultimately leading to Removal.

briceb wrote:
He stated that he went to a Urologist and the tests came back that he did not have an infection. He did leave the implant to heal and followed the instructions given. That resulted in the implant continuing to protrude through the skin, ultimately leading to Removal.

Yes, but Dr Elist said that was fake news.

So sad when you can\'t even trust the word of a Phalloplasty surgeon.
First the priests and now this.

10003 wrote:

So sad when you can\'t even trust the word of a Phalloplasty surgeon.
First the priests and now this.

Truth is dead....the mainstream media has an agenda to run the stories they want & to mold their agenda & lies into what they want the public to think & how to act......Elist is exactly like them, continuous lies & molding lies into what he believes will sell implants.

hoddle10 wrote:
Originally Posted by jjk
I\'m convinced Dr. Elist could do this surgery in his sleep with one arm tied behind his back.


Judging by his results, he probably does.

jjk,

I guess what I meant by your opinion was what you think about his legal standing.
Txhog got the implant, followed the doctor\'s instructions which lead to a worsening of the issue, Removal of the implant, scarring and penile retraction. Furthermore, he was promised a refund and was subsequently told that he would not get it. He spent thousands on the procedure plus thousands more on travel to the doctor.

In your opinion, what is his legal standing?

BTW, I NEVER asked for a pic and a name, I said no pic never happened. The three posted poor pix leave a lot to be desired. But I am a shill, so who cares about what I say.

I did mean it though that if I am convinced I\'d publicly apologize....

mustang: convinced of what? you don\'t believe those pics are of my Dick? I\'m going to continue to post pics so maybe you will eventually be convinced for anyone who cares.

briceb: honestly neither one of truly knows enough about Txhog\'s story. In my profession there are 3 sides to every story...my side...your side...and the truth. Txhog could be the guy that tried out his new equipment too soon which led to complications or maybe he had too big of an implant put in than he should have (which could be a valid claim to sue) or maybe he was truly wronged. He says he was promised a refund. Did he get an email or something in writing confirming this? Did he send Dr. Elist an email confirming the understanding? If not then the promise isn\'t worth the paper it\'s not written on. It\'s one thing to complain on a phalloboard and another to do it contemporaneously and properly to preserve your legal rights. It should be noted that the Statute of Limitaions for medical malpractice in Florida is 2 years from discovery of the problem or date that the problem should have been discovered...whichever occurs first. I can\'t speak to California law. Thus if someone feels that they have an issue there is a window of time to bring action or forever hold your peace...except in here of course...lol

JJK, for a lot of different reasons, you are not being supported on this site the way guys usually are. My only reference is myself and I wouldn\'t be on a board that didn\'t give me support. This is not a criticism of you - it is the psychologist in me - what compels you to post on here if you are repeatedly just defending your choices, it just seems like work at best - like I said this is just curiosity. Thundersplace really attacked me when I brought up the Dermal Grafts I had years ago, even though I was on there for the Hanging info, but I stopped posting as it just bummed me out, that\'s my reference. They were exclusively natural PE at the time and I was called everything from lazy, a cheater, and ignorant for my decision and so I thought I don\'t need this shit. This site is about advice which you are not getting - well you are but it is combative; knowledge, which in this case runs counter to your choices, support which you are also not getting and a sense of community as well, which you are sort of being excluded from. You would have to post for years to convince anyone that your story puts you in a minority of good outcomes, and that is the best that it going to happen.
For the hundredth time, I hope you have a perfect outcome, PE gone wrong is a nightmare.

1003 Thank you for your heartfelt wishes...and this time I\'m being serious...sometimes I get a little sarcastic when the guys call me names etc. The reason I continue to post in here despite the negativity that is cast my way is that I had looked prior to the surgery for someone who posted in here and gave a complete account of the experience in an honest and unbiased way. I didn\'t really find that and I guess I am paying it forward. I did see some posts...Aero for example...that seemed to give a relatively detailed and honest account of his surgery. He too eventually left here. I don\'t challenge the fact that some of the guys in here had bad outcomes with their surgery for whatever reason.. be it too quick to test the equipment or just their bodies didn\'t heal well. I posted yesterday that my father was a doctor. He often commented that every human body is different and reacts differently to surgery and medicines, etc. People like to think that medicine is an exact science when in fact it is not. If you are a psychologist or at least play one on tv, I\'m sure you\'re aware that patients who take anti-depressants usually have to try many different medications before they figure out the one that does the job for them. Does that mean that the medicines that didn\'t help were bad medicines...absolutely not. It only means that that medicine didn\'t work for them while it may be the perfect medicine for someone else. I don\'t subscribe to the pervasive opinion in here that Dr. Elist is the \"butcher of Beverly Hills\". The surgery so far is working for me and I hope for and expect a good result...emphasis on the word good....I didn\'t say \"perfect\". His office follows up every week with me when I email my pics for review. Today I am at 2 months post operation. I think that getting to this point without any real issue bodes well for me going forward. Txhog and others seemed to have issues early on in their recovery. The poking through the skin issue that many complained of and which did result in the necessity to remove the implant in their cases was probably because too large of an implant was inserted into the penis. That is just my opinion based upon having it. The upper part of the implant does...in the Flaccid state...poke the skin below the glans. It does not hurt but after sitting down and then getting up it will be bent a little which I easily straighten out by gripping the shaft of my penis. The implant itself is getting softer so this issue may resolve over time. For me I don\'t consider it an \"issue\" that bothers me. Since I brought it up, people considering the surgery need to understand that your penis is not going to be exactly like your penis is not but only bigger. You are putting something artificial under the skin and you will feel it when you touch your penis in the Flaccid state. When the penis is hard it is much harder to detect...no one has noticed so far.

Dr. Elist was conservative with me and just put in the large implant. During the pre-op exam I of course wanted to hear him say that I was perfect for the XXXL but I trusted that his experience would pick the right size for me and the fact that he decided on the smallest size kind of made me trust him even more because he was being conservative with his choice instead of trying to make a telephone pool fit inside a banana peel...not a perfect analogy but you get my point.

I believe from what your last post said that you didn\'t have the Penuma implant but instead had grafts. Despite what you\'ve heard in here you might want to at least talk to Dr. Elist directly and see what he has to say about your situation. I know I will be called a shill for my last statement but I don\'t care. If I were suffering because of a bad result from some other procedure I would be open to trying something else to try and get what I wanted in the first place. Listening to a bunch of hearsay from people with a stated agenda won\'t solve your problem. I agree with you that the stretching exercises,pumps, pills, etc give only nominal results at best and take quite a bit of time and effort from what I\'ve heard. Don\'t give up or settle for a horrific result. See if something can be done. God bless

Hi thanks for the answer. (I actually had the grafts removed over a year ago and ended up with PMMA which worked really well for me, I didn\'t want any more surgery and just getting the graft out was traumatic enough.)
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1003 that\'s good...I\'m happy for you. It\'s kind of funny because if you look around in other PhalloBoards they slam PMMA too..LMFAO. It worked for you and that\'s all that matters.

Quote:Originally Posted by jjk
briceb I did read his Txhog\'s post. It appears that he developed an infection. That is a real and possible issue with the surgery. If you leave the penis to heal for the first month you should be ok.
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Originally Posted by Briceb
He stated that he went to a Urologist and the tests came back that he did not have an infection. He did leave the implant to heal and followed the instructions given. That resulted in the implant continuing to protrude through the skin, ultimately leading to Removal.
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Two opinions....Not sure who to believe...

I think Briceb is a shill....

LOL...........

mustang I already acknowledged that a few posts ago....please try and keep up with the rest of the class

jjk sent me a few pics of his surgery via messenger. I think he is definitely legit and not sure why he would be on here if he wasn\'t an Elist patient. Personally, I think it is 100% real - I am sure other guys do too, but I get the tension Elist creates on this board too. Just wanted to say that he sent them to me to see and I think it\'s for real and looks good. I hope it is a smooth trip for you jjk.